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PLENARY European Parliament
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Pero todos los actores deben integrarse en un enfoque adaptado a cada situación. Y a nivel de la Comisión, esto significa que todos los servicios pertinentes deben tener un papel claro en la aplicación de esta estrategia para contextos frágiles. Comisaria, acabo diciendo que la diplomacia humanitaria es absolutamente esencial. Desplegar todas las capacidades para garantizar corredores humanitarios, para garantizar que el esfuerzo humanitario llega de verdad, es absolutamente importante. Por eso para nosotros hoy, que hemos construido un consenso en esta comunicación que esperemos que se vea traducido en la votación, queremos trabajar para que esta comunicación se implemente.
Y por eso quiero preguntarle hoy cuál es el plan y los primeros pasos para que cuanto antes esto sea una realidad. Porque la credibilidad humanitaria de Europa no se juzgará por sus compromisos, sino por sus resultados y también por la coherencia de otros departamentos de la Comisión. Muchas gracias.
Merci beaucoup, cher collègue. Je souhaite la bienvenue à Madame la Commissaire Lahbib à qui je donne la parole immédiatement.
Hadja Lahbib
Honorable members, the joint communication on humanitarian action comes at a critical moment of unprecedented challenges. Unprecedented in terms of the number and severity of global crises and ever-expanding humanitarian funding gap. Unprecedented in terms of systematic attacks on international humanitarian law, civilians and humanitarian workers, with deliberate attacks on civilians, destruction of schools, hospitals, widespread sexual violence, weaponization of humanitarian access. And this is also why our new humanitarian communication is also unprecedented. It is for a first time ever a joint communication presented together with HRVP.
It is a joint effort of our humanitarian development, peace and foreign policy. It is not about mixing up what is humanitarian aid, what is development cooperation and what is foreign policy. Nor it is shifting away from our long-standing and firm commitment to humanitarian principles like humanity, impartiality, neutrality and independence. These will always remain our non-negotiable compass. Rather, it is better using all of our tools and policies in complementarity for a better impact.
We have outlined three pillars: protect, perform and partner. Protect our humanitarian principles, defending international humanitarian law, protecting aid workers and civilians, securing humanitarian access and developing a strategic approach to humanitarian diplomacy. Today, 300 million people's lives depend on humanitarian aid, while we are reaching the lowest level of funding in decades. To save more lives, we need to perform. This is our second pillar: improving the efficiency of humanitarian aid, avoiding duplication, reforming supply chains, delivering our aid closer to those in need through localization.
And finally, we need to work in a more sustainable manner, addressing protracted crises and their root causes. That is why we need our third pillar: partner. Partner with the private sector, the international financial institutions, the philanthropic sector to find new blended finance, encourage and secure investments in fragile countries, strengthening the humanitarian-development-peace nexus and increasing global resilience. This joint communication is our comprehensive answer to the challenges of today. And I hope I can count on your support for bringing this important work from policy strategy to achievements on the ground.
Thank you.
Lukas Mandl
Thank you, President. Commissioner, you're the first Commissioner in this House who kept within the speaking time, even was briefer and said a lot while doing that. I'm really impressed by that and that's a big contribution to parliamentarism. Dear colleagues, the European Union is the strongest soft power on Earth. And we have to remain being in that role because we contribute to a better life for many people, to rescuing people from difficult situations and to give life to what we call European values.
But it's also important that people would know we do that and we should speak about it because the world is full of confrontation of actors who seek to use their hard power, not always for the best, in very many cases for the worst. And Europe is developing its hard power, but we have to strengthen our soft power and keep with our soft power also as a leverage, not only for pure European interests, which is also good and fine and for the sake of the Europeans, but for the universal approach with European values.
So communication on humanitarian aid is important. To include all stakeholders is important. To respect the very traditions and the culture of the countries and the societies we deal with is extremely important. Might that be coordination with religious leaders or respecting the values of a given country when we go there to help. So Europe as a strong soft power also has to set an example all over the world for evidence-based approach, especially, and I time and again repeat that, when it comes to health.
There are already, like in the pandemic, conspiracy theories around about health crises on our planet, such as Ebola, such as the Hanta virus. Again, extremists try to misuse these health issues for their purpose of division, of separation, of polarization, far away from any evidence-based approach. And this is where the European Union comes in again. We're not only the strongest soft power, we're not only values-based, we're also more reliable than any other actor on earth when it comes to evidence. And when we talk about communication on humanitarian aid, of course, we must never forget we are dealing with taxpayers' money.
Meaning we have to explain time and again and also show our responsibility time and again towards the citizens of the European Union member states, the European Union citizens, what we are doing with their money and that it's worth it. That it's worth it for the people affected by crisis, but it's also worth it for European interest, European values, and a proper future for everybody, because Europeans will have a better future when everybody has a better future.
Udo Bullmann
Herr Präsident, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen, Hunderte von Millionen Menschen in akuter Not, so viele zur Flucht gezwungen wie noch nie. Frau Kommissarin, Sie haben die volle Unterstützung dieses Hauses für Ihre engagierte Arbeit. Jeder Ebola-Ausbruch, den wir nicht im Keim ersticken, wird auf uns zurückkommen. Jeder Hunger, der nicht gestillt wird, wird sich irgendwann in Gewaltausdrücken. Und jeder Krieg, der nicht verhindert wird, und der nicht, wenn er nicht verhindert werden kann, dann wenigstens schnell beendet wird, wird in unendlichem Elend geflüchteter Menschen münden.
Wir müssen handeln. Die Mittel zur Verfügung stellen, ja, Sie machen das richtig, indem Sie die Effektivität erhöhen, Mittel vor Ort verausgaben, aber wir brauchen das ganze Arsenal. Keine Handelsverträge mit denen, die Blut an den Händen haben, keine diplomatischen Verrenkungen gegenüber denjenigen, die Kriege befeuern, das erwarten wir von der Kommission und von den Mitgliedstaaten.
György Hölvényi
Merci beaucoup, orateur suivant, György Hölvényi.
Ah, thank you, Mr. Chair, I try to follow the wise words of my colleagues, but in my mother tongue, Hungarian. Tisztelt biztos asszony, tisztelt képviselőtársaim, ha az Európai Unió valamilyen sikert tud felmutatni a világban az elmúlt évtizedekben, az akkor tényleg a humanitárius segítségnyújtás, aminek célja, ahogy már említették, az emberi szenvedés enyhítése.
Különösen igaz ez most, mikor Gázában kétmillió ember nem jut egészségügyi ellátáshoz és oktatáshoz, amikor Szudánban a világ legnagyobb menekültválsága közepette 14 millió ember kényszerült elhagyni otthonát, amikor Jemenben 20 millió ember függ a nemzetközi élelmiszersegélyektől, világszerte 90 millió gyermek maradt ki az oktatásból a fegyveres konfliktus miatt. Kérdés egyszerű a kérdés: mi lesz velük? Az egységes fellépés most minden eddiginél fontosabb, ennek alapja az itt elhangzott az emberiesség, a pártatlanság, a semlegesség és természetesen a függetlenség. Tisztelt képviselőtársaim, itt az Európai Parlamentben már megkezdődött a verseny a következő évi pénzügyi keretforrásaiért. Egyelőre eddig soha nem látott módon, sajnos meghatározhatatlan, hogy valóban mekkora összeg fog rendelkezésre állni a humanitárius segítségnyújtásra, és miként kerül az főleg elosztásra.
Valóban a bajbajutottak szenvedésének enyhítésére használja ezt a Bizottság, vagy más politikai szándékot akarja finanszírozni, furcsa kimondani, és vigyázok is vele, a szenvedők kárára. Sajnos meg kell állapítanunk azt is, hogy az utóbbi időben a humanitárius politika összekeveredik az ideológiai törekvésekkel. Ez bizony rossz irány, a humanitárius segítségnyújtás portfólióját nem szabad más területekkel összekeverni. Tisztelt képviselőtársaim, a következő hónapok feladata biztosítani az Unió humanitárius fellépése megfelelő költségvetéssel, valóban hiteles és független az eddigieknél, nagyon remélem, hatékonyabban tudja a szükséget szenvedőket segíteni. Köszönöm, hogy meghallgattak.
Dick Erixon
I kommissionens yttrande pekar man på att det globala biståndssystemet står inför en kollaps. Det är ju allvarligt, men samtidigt tycker jag vi måste titta på vad har vi från Europa gjort. Sverige har under 25 år fyrdubblat sin biståndsbudget och den Europeiska unionen har fördubblat det ännu många fler gånger under de här 25 åren. Ändå så är världen i det läge som den är. Och då måste man fråga sig: har man då misslyckats?
Om man pumpar in allt mer pengar och man får allt sämre resultat, då är det ju nånting som inte riktigt stämmer. Och jag tror att det är ett feltänk som ligger i grunden här. Europa kan inte rädda världen. Det är ett kolonialt förlegat tänkande. Vi kan inte göra det, utan vi måste se till att vi blir starka istället, vi som folkvalda representerar människorna i unionen.
Och vi har väldigt många stora problem att ta hand om här, socialt och ekonomiskt. Det finns ingen anledning att öka budgeten, den borde istället minska. Tack.
Charles Goerens
Merci. J'ai le plaisir de donner la parole à Charles Goerens.
Merci Monsieur le Président. Le marqueur de l'aide humanitaire, c'est l'irréductibilité de la dignité humaine. Le consensus européen pour l'aide humanitaire nous le rappelle. Mais entre-temps, la rage destructrice de MAGA est passée par là. Elle menace tout sur son passage.
La politique européenne humanitaire, quant à elle, elle résiste, disons qu'elle résiste encore. Elle résiste parce qu'elle est impartiale. L'impartialité, ça veut dire on assiste celui qui est dans le besoin. On n'assiste pas celui qui nous plaît, on assiste celui qui a besoin de notre aide et qui sans laquelle ne pourrait pas survivre. Elle résiste encore à l'aspect transactionnel qui semble envahir tous les secteurs, des pans entiers de la politique européenne, y compris la politique d'aide au développement.
Et cette politique, elle a un visage. C'est le visage de notre commissaire. Elle mérite notre soutien parce qu'elle défend ce que l'Union européenne, dans sa politique extérieure, a ce qui est de plus noble. C'est le marqueur, elle avec les valeurs qu'elle défend, c'est le marqueur de cette politique de l'aide humanitaire dont nous devons préserver le caractère. Et j'invite toute cette assemblée à résister à la tentation de voter l'amendement 15 qui entend mettre fin de façon très sournoise à ce caractère impartial et désintéressé de la politique d'aide humanitaire.
Rasmus Andresen
Im Gazastreifen leiden nach wie vor über zwei Millionen Menschen unter wenig Zugang zu Wasser, zu Strom und zur Grundversorgung. Über eine Million Menschen leben dort in Zelten. Und wir haben auch viele andere Krisen in dieser Welt, wie zum Beispiel im Sudan, wo wir knapp 20 Millionen Menschen haben, die unter Hungersnot leiden. Insgesamt sind über 230 Millionen Menschen, das muss man sich mal ausmalen, abhängig von humanitärer Hilfe, weil sie unter Bedingungen leben, die wir alle uns gar nicht vorstellen können. Und wir diskutieren jetzt zurzeit hier im Europäischen Parlament, aber auch an anderen Orten darüber, wie die globalen Instrumente der Europäischen Union in der Zukunft aussehen sollen.
Und ich will ganz deutlich sagen, dass das, was der Rat, was die Mitgliedstaaten machen, nämlich Kürzungen in diesem Bereich vorzuschlagen, dass das der absolut falsche Weg ist. Wir haben nicht nur eine Verpflichtung anderen Regionen gegenüber, sondern wir haben auch ein Interesse, dass wir auch weiterhin starke humanitäre Hilfe haben werden. Und deshalb ist es wichtig, dass wir uns dafür einsetzen, dass ein Teil des Budgets für humanitäre Hilfe auch weiter reserviert sein wird.
Estrella Galán
Gracias, presidente, comisaria. 22 millones de personas van a perder la vida de aquí a 2030. 5 millones de ellos serán niños y es a consecuencia de los recortes de la ayuda humanitaria. Cuando la llegada de comida, de agua o de medicamentos pasan a depender de la voluntad de un gobierno, la ayuda humanitaria se convierte en una herramienta de chantaje político, en un privilegio y no en un derecho. Un instrumento para que unos pocos decidan quién vive con dignidad y quién sobrevive esperando un convoy, mirando si llega agua o si llega pan ese día.
Lo vemos en Gaza, donde la ayuda humanitaria sigue sin entrar y el hambre se utiliza como un arma de guerra más para continuar con el genocidio. Lo vemos en Cuba, donde Estados Unidos está asfixiando a todo un pueblo y ni tan siquiera hay posibilidad de hacer llegar la ayuda por un bloqueo criminal. Y también lo vemos allí donde han desmantelado las ayudas de USAID, como en los campos de refugiados saharauis en el Sáhara Occidental, que llevan 50 años resistiendo. La Unión Europea, comisaria, debe reforzar la ayuda humanitaria y cubrir el vacío que Trump vilmente ha dejado de cubrir si no queremos ser cómplices de estos atentados contra la humanidad. Muchas gracias.
Volker Schnurrbusch
Herr Präsident, Frau Kommissarin, meine Damen und Herren. Je weniger realen Einfluss die EU weltweit hat, desto mehr inszeniert sie sich als moralische Großmacht. Nichts gegen Hilfe in akuten Notlagen und den Schutz humanitären Personals. Aber Ihre Entschließung will aus humanitärer Politik ein dauerhaftes, milliardenschweres Instrument mit eigener Umsetzungsarchitektur und ausufernden politischen Verpflichtungen machen. Es ist immer dasselbe Muster.
Die Grünen fordern im Bundestag drei Milliarden Euro zusätzlich.
Aber solange in Deutschland Brücken marode sind, Krankenhäuser Personalnot leiden und Rentner Pfandflaschen sammeln müssen, ist ein solcher Einsatz einfach unangemessen. Und was passiert denn mit dem Geld? Im Jemen hat die GIZ jahrelang deutsche Hilfsgelder veruntreut. Fingierte Rechnungen, bandenmäßiger Betrug, zweistelliger Millionenschaden. Das ist das System, das hier weiter verfestigt werden soll.
Die Finanzierung von NGOs und oftmals korrupten Regimen, ohne dass wir in Europa etwas davon haben. Und wo unsere Hilfe in der Welt gute Resultate zeigt, da sind es oft andere, die davon profitieren. China betreibt seine Entwicklungspolitik streng geostrategisch und ausschließlich zum eigenen Nutzen. Wenn Europa nicht der nützliche Idiot sein will, der für Chinas Investitionen das Feld bereitet, dann muss dieser Weltrettungsanspruch aufhören. Humanitäre Hilfe ja, aber bedarfsorientiert und streng kontrolliert.
Sie darf nicht isoliert von der sonstigen Entwicklungspolitik betrachtet werden. Wir brauchen die Konditionalität. Wer unsere Mittel will, muss bei der Bekämpfung zum Beispiel von illegaler Migration kooperieren. Der Blankoscheck für globale NGOs und endlose Transfers, den die linke Hälfte dieses Hauses bis hin hinein in die EVP hier fordert, das ist der Ausverkauf europäischer Interessen und daher lehnen wir diesen Entschließungsantrag ab. Danke schön.
Hildegard Bentele
Sehr geehrter Herr Präsident, liebe Frau Kommissarin, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen. Humanitäre Hilfe ist Ausdruck unserer europäischen Werte. Sie rettet Leben, sie lindert Leid und sie muss diejenigen erreichen, die sie am dringendsten brauchen. Aber gerade deshalb dürfen wir auch nicht naiv sein. Humanitäre Hilfe ist niemals völlig unpolitisch.
Nach einer Naturkatastrophe mag das noch am ehesten so sein. Aber allein die Frage, wer überhaupt humanitäre Hilfe bekommt, in Kriegen und insbesondere in Bürgerkriegen, hier gibt es immer auch eine politische Dimension. Wer Zugang bekommt, wer verteilt, wer kontrolliert und wer profitiert, all das kann das Kräfteverhältnis vor Ort beeinflussen. Umso mehr, wenn humanitäre Hilfe nicht nur vorübergehend, sondern dauerhaft oder gar zur alleinigen Lebensquelle wird. Das gilt auch mit Blick auf Gaza und die Westbank.
Hilfe muss die Zivilbevölkerung erreichen, aber sie darf nicht dazu beitragen, terroristische Organisationen, gewaltsame Akteure oder korrupte Strukturen zu stabilisieren. Oder sie sollte, wie beispielsweise im Falle Afghanistans, mit ortsangepassten Auflagen verbunden werden, die zumindest zu einer graduellen Verbesserung der Situation der Unterdrückten führen. Wenn Hilfsgüter umgeleitet werden, wenn Gelder in falsche Hände geraten oder wenn internationale Organisationen nicht ausreichend kontrollieren, entsteht ein massiver Vertrauensverlust bei Bürgern Europas, aber auch in die internationale Gemeinschaft. Neutralität darf nicht Blindheit bedeuten. Unparteilichkeit heißt nicht Kontrollverzicht.
Und Menschlichkeit verlangt gerade, dass Hilfe nicht missbraucht wird. Deshalb brauchen wir von der Kommission klare Antworten darauf, ob humanitäre Hilfe ankommt, welche Prüfmechanismen es bei den Partnerorganisationen gibt und wie bei Zweckentfremdung reagiert wird. Europa muss helfen, aber auch kontrollieren. Herzlichen Dank.
Marit Maij
Merci beaucoup, Marit Maij.
Ja, dank u wel voorzitter, commissaris, collega's. Humanitaire hulp moet abrupte noodsituaties verlichten. Maar veel van de situaties die onze hulp nu vragen zijn helemaal niet abrupt. We weten dat het stopzetten van ontwikkelingsprogramma's voor gezondheidszorg leidt tot uitbraken van voorkombare ziektes. We weten dat het indirect steunen van illegale mijnbouw gemeenschappen ontwricht en ontheemt.
We weten dat handelsdeals aanhouden met een staat die genocide pleegt ongekend menselijk lijden veroorzaakt. Humanitaire hulp staat niet los van onze internationale partnerschappen.
Er mag geen vervanging zijn voor consistent buitenlandbeleid. Want als we met de ene hand omstandigheden blijven creëren voor crisis en met de andere hand hulp bieden, lossen we niets op. Het internationaal systeem is stuk en dat kost miljoenen mensenlevens. Wanneer 300 miljoen mensen humanitaire hulp nodig hebben, eist dat meer dan incidentele steun. Dat eist een manier van handelen die niet meer die geen schade meer aanricht aan mens en aan de natuur.
En daarom wil ik aan de commissaris vragen hoe zij met haar collega's samenwerkt om daadwerkelijk tot een consistent buitenlandbeleid te komen. Dank u wel.
Tiago Moreira de Sá
Merci beaucoup, chers collègues. Tiago Moreira de Sá.
Senhor Presidente, Senhora Comissária, na Eneida, Virgílio lembra-nos que o sofrimento dos mortais interpela a consciência dos homens. Perante a dor humana, a Europa não pode virar o rosto. A nossa ajuda deve continuar a proteger os mais vulneráveis e aqueles que arriscam a vida para os socorrer. Mas Eneias ensina-nos também que a verdadeira compaixão exige responsabilidade. Hoje, há mais trabalhadores humanitários mortos, mais fome e o financiamento ao desenvolvimento regressou a níveis de há uma década.
Perante esta realidade, a resposta da Comissão chega demasiadas vezes tarde e frequentemente acompanhada da mesma chaga: a ineficiência. A verdade, por mais incómoda, é esta: gastar mais não é ajudar melhor. Com centenas de milhões de pessoas a necessitar de assistência, cada euro perdido em burocracia, opacidade ou dispersão é um euro subtraído a quem dele mais precisa. Porque a lição de Eneias permanece atual: a compaixão honra uma civilização, mas só a responsabilidade garante que ela perdure. Muito obrigado.
Aurelijus Veryga
Merci beaucoup. Aurelijus Veryga.
Commissioner, colleagues, the fact that we are able to help each other in difficult times by providing humanitarian aid is the highest expression of humanity. It often becomes a factor uniting countries when political disagreements are put aside. Unfortunately, the need for such aid is not decreasing, but it's only growing as conflict zones expand. One of such countries is Ukraine, which is fighting Russian aggression and a significant part of its society is facing extreme difficulties and humanitarian aid support must be continued. However, humanitarian aid and funds must be allocated extremely responsibly so that they are not used to solve problems but to create them.
They must not to fall into hands of terrorists and create opportunities for using those funds for aggression against neighbors. Some finance mechanisms may discredit humanitarian goals, like in the cases when the money went into hands of Hamas terrorists. Therefore, EU should act extremely cautiously and responsibly in the future. Thank you.
Abir Al-Sahlani
Thank you, Chair. Let me first start with thanking you, dear Commissioner Al-Habib, for your principled leadership and commitment to international law. International humanitarian law, the humanitarian communication is a testimony of this leadership. 300 million people need humanitarian aid. Behind every number there is a face, there are dreams, hopes, aspiration, there is a life that are uprooted and destroyed.
It is the women in Sudan who walk through the desert in search for help. They are raped, they are beaten, they are witnessing massacres, only to find that there was no one to help. It is the children in Gaza who survived the war, but their parents and communities did not. Many of them disabled and all of them traumatized. These are the voices that are never heard in this chamber, they are never invited.
Still, it is their need and experiences that must shape our action. My plea today is clear. Please, dear Commissioner, we need to urgently increase the funding to those, especially women-led organizations who are the first responders when the catastrophe strikes. Thank you.
Isabella Lövin
Tack, herr talman. Tyvärr så ökar antalet krig och konflikter i världen just nu. Och samtidigt så sker någonting som är ännu mer skrämmande. Respekten för den humanitära rätten urholkas. Och helt oskyldiga barn och människor som är utsatta för de här konflikterna drabbas.
Vi ser små barn i Gaza som försöker skapa en vardag bland rasmassor och försöker sova i läger som invaderas av råttor. Samtidigt så ser vi hur hjälpen har hindrats från att komma fram. Och vi ser också attacker på sjukvårdspersonal, på sjukhus och på hjälparbetare. När humanitär hjälp används som ett verktyg för kontroll, när tillgången till bistånd villkoras av politiska eller militära mål, då hotas inte bara människorna i den aktuella konflikten, då hotas hela det internationella system som skapades efter andra världskrigets fasor. Och accepterar vi det, då är vi på ett sluttande plan.
Vi i denna kammare måste stå upp för internationell rätt, att den gäller alltid och för alla. Vi måste försvara FN:s roll, skydda humanitära organisationers möjlighet att verka och kräva att livräddande hjälp når fram till de oskyldiga människor som behöver dem. Annars så är vi alla i fara. Tack.
Liudas Mažylis
Dėkoju, pirmininke, komisare, kolegos. Humanitarinė pagalba nėra labdara. Tai strateginė investicija į Europos saugumą ir patikimumą. Šiandien pasaulyje vyksta apie 130 aktyvių konfliktų ir jie sugeneruoja maždaug 70 procentų pasaulinių humanitarinių poreikių. Poreikiai auga eksponentiškai, o finansiniai ištekliai ir veiklos galimybės mažėja.
Tačiau jau akivaizdus ir poreikis reformuoti sistemą, mažinti dubliavimąsi tiekimo grandinėse ir reikalauti, kad finansavimas pasiektų žmones. Europos Sąjungos humanitarinės pagalbos kokybė, atskaitomybė ir strateginė orientacija lygiai taip pat svarbi kaip ir jos apimtis. Pastaraisiais metais smurtas prieš humanitarinius darbuotojus pasiekė precedento neturintį mastą. Žmonės, kurie rizikuoja savo gyvybe padėdami kitiems, patys tampa taikiniais. Tarptautinė humanitarinė teisė pažeidinėjama beveik nebaudžiamai.
Turime reikalauti atsakomybės už išpuolius prieš pagalbos ir medicinos darbuotojus. Kartu turime suvokti, koks svarbus yra vietos veikėjų vaidmuo. Jie visada yra pirmieji krizės atveju dar prieš atvykstant tarptautinėms organizacijoms. Veiklos rezultatai priklauso ir nuo veiksnių, kurių Europa negali kontroliuoti: mažėjančio donorų skaičiaus ar konflikto šalių nepagarbos humanitarinei teisei. Tačiau tai ne pretekstas pasyvumui, o paskata atkakliai išnaudoti kiekvieną mums prieinamą galimybę.
Dėkoju.
Younous Omarjee
Dėkoju. Please, dear Mr. Yes. You have a request for a blue card. You're okay, come from Mr. Arsens. Vous avez la parole.
Jaume Asens Llodrà
Gracias, presidente. Usted ya ha hablado de ayuda humanitaria. Sabe que la Comisión se niega a publicar los informes de la destrucción de los proyectos humanitarios en Gaza porque dice que perjudica sus relaciones internacionales. A mí me parece una expresión clara de la hipocresía europea porque con una mano se financian proyectos allí y con la otra se financia a quien los destruye, se le da armas para destruir esos proyectos y para asesinar a las víctimas palestinas. Yo quería saber su opinión, si está de acuerdo en negar el acceso a la información de la ciudadanía europea de esos informes.
Liudas Mažylis
Aš bandysiu atsakyti į šį klausimą. Turbūt kalba čia eina apie informavimą ir informavimo srautus. Tai tas atgalinis ryšys turi būti užprogramuotas ir kiekviena investicija, kokia ji bebūtų į humanitarinę pagalbą, privalo būti tinkamu būdu įvertinta ir diktuoti tam tikrus tolesnius veiksmus. Taip suprasčiau jūsų klausimą. Dėkoju.
Younous Omarjee
Merci beaucoup. Vous avez parfaitement compris la question. Marco Tarquinio.
Marco Tarquinio
L'aiuto umanitario è il dovere di intrecciare il filo che tiene in vita e riconosce dignità agli esseri umani quando tutto è in macerie. Eppure oggi, vicino e lontano dalla nostra Europa, quel filo viene spezzato sistematicamente. Organizzazioni osteggiate e definanziate, operatori uccisi, azioni interrotte, attori locali messi ai margini, comunità private di cibo, cure e riparo. Il diritto internazionale umanitario è fatto a pezzi da chi sta in pace formalmente e da chi fa guerra. E se avviene in guerra non è una giustificazione, ma un'aggravante.
E i più colpiti sono donne, minori, minoranze. Difendiamo con lei, signora Commissario, l'umanità e la generosa sostanza, sostenibilità e libertà del soccorso. Opponiamoci a chi vuol trasformare l'aiuto in brutale strumento di pressione politica e ribadiamo che il finanziamento pubblico è obbligo, non opzione. Perciò agli Stati membri e alle destre diciamo: nessun taglio.
Ana Miranda Paz
Bonjour, Madame la Commissaire. Mis primeras palabras son de apoyo y solidaridad por el terremoto en Venezuela. Este Parlamento no ha tenido la valentía de hablar de ese tema. Lo siento mucho, realmente, cuando se habla muchas veces de otras temáticas. La ayuda humanitaria es un compromiso civilizatorio por el impacto de conflictos o desastres humanitarios.
Es una obligación internacional. Es compromiso, es empatía, es humanidad y solidaridad. Por eso, también quiero agradecerle a la Comisaria el trabajo en este sentido porque creo que es la única Comisaria valiente en haber denunciado el genocidio en Gaza. Y lo quiero reconocer públicamente. Y apoyamos esta comunicación sobre ayuda humanitaria delante del aumento de conflictos, delante de la falta del respeto del derecho internacional, delante de la falta de apoyo a las organizaciones de derechos humanos y humanitarias.
Gaza ha sido el ejemplo de dejar solos a los trabajadores humanitarios, de dejar solos a los palestinos. Gaza ha sido el ejemplo de la muerte de la ayuda humanitaria y por eso tenemos que seguir ayudando. Esa es una de las... sorry.
Murielle Laurent
Merci Monsieur le Président, Madame la Commissaire, chers collègues. Parler d'aide humanitaire, c'est avant tout parler de vies humaines. C'est parler de milliers de personnes qui, faute de moyens, n'ont tout simplement plus accès à une aide essentielle. En 2025, le financement international de l'aide humanitaire a atteint son niveau le plus bas depuis dix ans. Une situation qui oblige les acteurs humanitaires à prendre des décisions impossibles.
Décider qui recevra une aide et qui en sera privé. Qui sera soigné, qui mangera, qui sera protégé. Ces choix ne devraient pas exister. C'est une question de volonté politique. Défendre des financements ambitieux, prévisibles et flexibles, refuser l'instrumentalisation de l'aide, assurer les principes de neutralité, d'impartialité et d'indépendance, protéger les travailleurs humanitaires, prendre en charge leur santé mentale et garantir leur accès à la justice, ces priorités doivent se traduire en actions concrètes urgemment.
Il s'agit de dignité humaine et de la vie de milliers de personnes.
Jaume Asens Llodrà
Señora comisaria, ayer Israel asesinó a diez civiles, dos menores. Antes de ayer asesinó al jefe de la agencia egipcia de ayuda humanitaria. Ya son casi seiscientos los trabajadores humanitarios asesinados en Gaza. Paremos de mandarles armas a Israel. Hoy aquí estamos hablando de cómo hacer llegar ayuda humanitaria a muchos sitios y entre otros lugares a Gaza.
Pero nuestra prioridad debería de ser dejar de cooperar con Israel en el exterminio de ese pueblo, del pueblo palestino, en el que nosotros participamos. Antes se lo preguntaba a un diputado del Partido Popular. La Comisión se niega a publicar los informes sobre la destrucción de sus propios proyectos, los proyectos que financia. Eso para mí es la expresión más clara de la hipocresía europea, igual que se niega a cumplir con las resoluciones judiciales de los tribunales de justicia. Creo que parece lo de la ayuda humanitaria una estrategia de marketing, puede parecerlo, para ocultar nuestra participación en ese genocidio.
Muchas gracias.
Younous Omarjee
Merci beaucoup. J'ouvre la procédure catch-the-eye, je donne la parole à Juan Fernando López Aguilar.
Juan Fernando López Aguilar
Presidente, comisaria, en el desorden global y en la multiplicación de las catástrofes naturales debidas en buena parte al calentamiento global, es más urgente que nunca la ayuda humanitaria. Nunca ha habido más necesidades de ayuda humanitaria ni tan urgentes como en este momento en que estamos hablando. Y sin embargo, la Unión Europea, que es campeona del mundo en ayuda al desarrollo y ayuda humanitaria, tiene la obligación de mejorar la eficacia diplomática de su ayuda humanitaria. Y este es el objeto de esta pregunta oral para mejorar el nivel de protección y compromiso con el derecho internacional humanitario, el rendimiento de la ayuda humanitaria, de modo que toda esa inversión en ayuda se traduzca en transformación y cambio real en los receptores de la ayuda. Y por supuesto, también un acento especial en valores distintivos que deben vincular la política exterior y también la ayuda humanitaria de la Unión Europea.
El empoderamiento de las mujeres, derechos sexuales y reproductivos y el apoyo a los trabajadores humanitarios acosados como nunca y sometidos a violencia en buena parte de los países destinatarios de la ayuda. Gracias, presidente.
Sebastian Tynkkynen
Thank you, President. A government's first moral contract is to its own citizens. Making its own citizens' lives better, safer and more prosperous comes before everything else. It doesn't mean we can't do things like give humanitarian aid. Of course we can and we should.
But pouring inefficient development aid around the world is another question. European aid should serve European interests. We're not a charity and we don't have limitless piles of money to sink into agencies and NGOs that someone here finds worth supporting. So we must be strategic, focus on true life-saving aid without ideological creep. Funding leftist ideas and NGOs through development aid serves only leftist interests.
Saving lives serves everyone's interests. Thank you.
Younous Omarjee
Merci, nous arrivons au terme de cette discussion et je rends la parole à Madame la Commissaire L'Abbe.
Hadja Lahbib
Merci, Monsieur le Président, et merci, chers parlementaires, pour ce débat plein d'humanité et de cœur. J'aimerais commencer par une des phrases qui était dite, un des premiers intervenants a dit que l'Union européenne, l'aide humanitaire, était le stronger soft power on earth. Et ça m'a poussé à une réflexion parce que j'ai essayé de le traduire en français. Est-ce que alléger les souffrances de femmes, d'enfants déplacés par des tremblements de terre, par des guerres, par des épidémies, est-ce que c'est un pouvoir léger, soft power ? Est-ce que arrêter des épidémies avant qu'elles ne contaminent d'autres pays, avant qu'elles ne se répandent, qu'elles nous atteignent, qu'elles nous propulsent dans des cauchemardesques black-out comme on en a eu par le passé, est-ce que c'est un soft power ?
Est-ce que c'est léger ? Je ne pense pas. Alors oui, l'aide humanitaire à elle seule ne peut pas tout résoudre. Et c'est pour ça que nous avons publié cette communication humanitaire qui est plus une stratégie en réalité face aux défis auxquels on fait face aujourd'hui. Pour qu'elle soit efficace, il faut qu'elle travaille main dans la main avec la diplomatie, avec l'aide au développement pour avoir une vision à long terme.
C'est pour ça aussi que nous avons proposé pour le prochain MFF d'avoir Global Europe avec un coussin de 25 milliards, des principes qui seront protégés puisque les réglementations de 1996 propres à l'aide humanitaire resteront d'application. Alors est-ce que cet argent sera bien dépensé ? C'est aussi une question qu'on peut bien sûr se poser. Il n'y a pas zéro risque, mais en tout cas nous avons zéro tolérance et un système de contrôle solide en place avec des monitorings de nos propres bureaux ECHO qui sont sur place, qui sont en contact avec nos partenaires qui délivrent l'aide humanitaire, avec des audits de la Cour européenne des auditeurs, avec des rapports circonstanciés. Et donc oui, tout est en place pour que l'argent de nos citoyens soit bien dépensé.
L'aide humanitaire, je suis d'accord, c'est la face la plus noble, la plus digne de l'Union européenne. Et si on devait lui donner un visage, ce serait certainement celui d'une femme. Une femme au Soudan qui fuit la guerre, qui est déplacée parmi les 13 millions de déplacés. Oui, une femme qui cherche son enfant enseveli à Caracas. C'est ça l'aide humanitaire.
C'est ce que je vois, c'est ce à quoi je suis confrontée à chaque fois que je me déplace en mission. C'est l'espoir, c'est une vision d'avenir pour nous tous et nous devons en être fiers, le maintenir en vie.
Je compte sur vous, je vous remercie et je vous souhaite un bon vote tout à l'heure pour votre résolution. Merci.
Younous Omarjee
Merci beaucoup Madame la Commissaire pour votre engagement. J'ai reçu une proposition de résolution pour clore ce débat. Le débat est clos et le vote aura lieu aujourd'hui. La séance est suspendue, elle reprendra dans quelques instants avec la déclaration de la Commission sur l'évaluation de la politique commune de la pêche et suivi.
La séance est reprise et l'ordre du jour appelle la déclaration de la Commission sur l'évaluation de la politique commune de la pêche et suivi. Je tiens à rappeler aux intervenants que compte tenu des mesures de test actuellement en place et de l'impératif de fin du débat, il sera nécessaire de respecter strictement les temps de parole. Je souhaite la bienvenue au commissaire Costas Kadis à qui j'ai le plaisir de donner la parole pour ouvrir cette discussion.
Costas Kadis
Dear Chair, honorable members, the Common Fisheries Policy Regulation is the European Union's foundation for sustainable fisheries and aquaculture. This April, one decade after its last revision, the Commission's evaluation confirmed that the approach adopted in 2013 to reconcile the three core objectives of the CFP, environmental, social, and economic sustainability, remains valid. The evaluation further demonstrates that the regulation's effectiveness depends not only on its overarching framework, but also on the operationalization of its tools, including technical and conservation measures, control mechanisms, and multi-annual plans. Starting with the environmental pillar, the evaluation finds progress in reducing overfishing, but stock abundance has not increased as expected. The landing obligation has fallen short of expectations on selective behavior or catch composition.
This matters beyond the environment because conservation underpins long-term socio-economic prosperity, and here the evaluation finds that the sector's socio-economic performance also falls short of what the 2013 reform envisaged. This is linked to several persistent challenges facing the EU fisheries sector, including an aging fleet, high energy dependency, rising operational costs, and difficulties in attracting young generations. Access to marine biological resources is also an issue for the small-scale fishers. Profitability has not improved as expected. This is not only due to the challenges I just mentioned, but can also be explained to a large extent by decreasing landings due to slow recovery of fish stocks and by an incomplete adjustment of the fleet capacity to available fish stocks.
Moreover, the evaluation found that while science and data collection have improved, there is a growing demand to better quantify the socioeconomic impact on the sector and to integrate the data into the scientific advice that feeds into our policy decisions. Here we have already taken steps forward with the first dedicated social report on the sector published just two weeks ago. In aquaculture, the evaluation shows that the limits of the non-binding EU tools the sector, the evaluation shows the limits of the non-binding EU tools the sector relies on. Where measures depend mainly on guidance and voluntary uptake, progress can be uneven and too slow, particularly in areas such as administrative simplification and enabling conditions for growth. External disruptions are also increasingly affecting fisheries and aquaculture: COVID-19, the war in Ukraine, Brexit, and systemic changes such as demographic aging, geopolitical shifts, and accelerating climate change.
While these factors go beyond the direct remit of the Common Fisheries Policy Regulation, stakeholders rightfully expect the policy framework to offer ways to respond and adapt. On the international stage, the EU remains a global leader in sustainable fisheries. We must uphold this role, especially in combating illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing and ensure fair competition for our operators with third-country fleets. Honorable members, the evaluation provided a diagnosis of the rules in place. Now we need to take political decisions on the way forward, including looking into the question which shortcomings identified in the evaluation require legislative changes and to what extent.
I look forward to the discussion that will follow. Thank you very much for your attention.
Younous Omarjee
Merci beaucoup, Monsieur le Commissaire. J'ai le plaisir de donner la parole à Carmen Crespo Díaz.
Carmen Crespo Díaz
Gracias, presidente, comisario, colegas. Bueno, en primer lugar, agradecer al comisario Kadis su disposición. Creo que es una disposición desde el principio de trabajar con este tema tan importante, siempre ha sido muy aperturista y ha escuchado a los pescadores y también a los científicos al respecto. Pero tras diez años desde la reforma 2013, la pregunta es si hemos avanzado rápidamente. Yo creo que han dado hemos dado resultados ambivalentes y ahora hay que cambiar el paradigma para poder solventar situaciones que se han producido a lo largo de estos años.
El paquete de simplificación no puede esperar, y eso lo sabemos, y al mismo tiempo lentamente trabajar con la PPC, que es un tema fundamental para el futuro de la pesquería. El 15 % de bajada, 2000 buques al año de pérdida en Europa. 22,8 kilos por persona de consumo. En diez años hemos bajado con una fuerte subida de precios.
Por tanto, no nos estamos alimentando de proteínas, importamos mucho pescado y va bajando la capacidad de nuestra flota. Por tanto, tenemos que trabajar en esta casuística importante. ¿Qué quiere decir esto? Que hay mucho que reflexionar. Claro que hay que apostar por la sostenibilidad de los caladeros, eso es un tema irrenunciable, pero además irrenunciable porque en estos momentos los pescadores así lo ven y así lo quieren hacer, pero con las herramientas necesarias dotadas en la PPC para poder hacerlo.
Obligación de desembarque, toleraje social, ir más allá en el reglamento de control, el reglamento del Mediterráneo, el reglamento de aguas profundas y la 87 zonas cerradas con el tema del palangre o el FEMPA y los recursos económicos que vamos a tener para el futuro, que eso es una de las primeras cuestiones que este Parlamento tiene que arreglar, siendo la pesquería un tema fundamental para el devenir de la alimentación, de las zonas costeras y por supuesto del trabajo de nuestros pescadores hombres y mujeres y la diversificación de la costa. Por tanto, ese es nuestro objetivo. Muchas gracias.
André Franqueira Rodrigues
Senhor Presidente, Senhor Comissário, em maio a Comissão das Pescas foi aos Açores, ouvimos pescadores, armadores, investigadores e a mensagem foi clara. Os stocks melhoram, o rendimento da frota cai. O setor envelhece, as embarcações perdem eficiência. Os custos sobem e a concorrência internacional aperta. As áreas marinhas protegidas crescem, mas as compensações não chegam aos pescadores.
Senhor Comissário, sei do seu empenho na política comum de pescas, mas este é o momento de agir. Deixo por isso quatro apelos. Primeiro, a simplificação administrativa. Simplificar sim, desproteger não. Precisamos de controlos eficazes e de frotas modernizadas.
Não é a papelada que salva os pescadores, são rendimentos, estabilidade, investimento e promoção da sustentabilidade. Segundo, a renovação geracional. Sem presente para os pescadores não há futuro para a política comum de pescas. É necessário por isso tornar este setor mais atrativo para atrair mais gente. O terceiro elemento diz respeito à dimensão internacional.
Combater a pesca ilegal, reforçar a cooperação pelos oceanos. A União Europeia tem que liderar a nível das respostas a estes desafios. Por fim, o orçamento. Não é possível falar em futuro das pescas com um corte de 68% do financiamento. Este Parlamento e este grupo político vão continuar a lutar por mais fundos para as pescas e para as regiões ultraperiféricas, porque como tenho dito várias vezes, só na matemática é que menos com menos dá mais.
Muito obrigado.
Ton Diepeveen
Merci beaucoup, chers collègues, Diepventon.
Voorzitter, commissaris. Vandaag een debat over de evaluatie van het gemeenschappelijk visserijbeleid. Bij uw aantreden eind 2024 kwam de aanlandplicht al ter sprake. Een verplichting die in de praktijk voor veel vissers niet werkbaar is. U gaf toen aan dat dit herbekeken dient te worden, maar nu bijna twee jaar later moeten we vaststellen dat er nog geen zichtbare concrete actie is ondernomen.
En in december 2025 werd mijn initiatiefverslag over de modernisering en verduurzaming van de Europese visserij aangenomen in dit parlement. En daarin vroegen wij om regels te versoepelen en te vereenvoudigen zodat innovatie sneller kan worden toegelaten. Wij vroegen om schepen te kunnen moderniseren, regels rond brutotonnage los te koppelen van echte viscapaciteit, zodat er ruimte komt voor veiligere schepen, betere werkomstandigheden en nieuwe motoren. Maar ook daar helaas geen concrete actie.
We hebben het gehad over innovatieve vistechnieken zoals pulsvissen, een techniek die minder brandstof verbruikt, minder bijvangst heeft en de zeebodem nagenoeg niet belast. En toch blijft deze techniek vastzitten in politieke blokkades, onwil en wantrouwen in plaats van dat deze techniek beoordeeld wordt op basis van wetenschap. Ook daar op dit moment geen actie. En dan het budget. Terwijl vissers investeringen moeten doen om te moderniseren en te verduurzamen, gaat het visserijbudget met ongeveer 68% omlaag.
En dan zegt de Commissie: er kunnen middelen komen via de nationale en regionale plannen. Maar laten we eerlijk zijn: als de visserij moet concurreren met alle grote prioriteiten, dan staan onze vissers achteraan in de rij. Ook hier werd geen concrete actie ondernomen in die zin om het visserijbudget te verdedigen. Commissaris, via u voorzitter, vissers hebben geen nieuwe roadmaps nodig dan wel nieuwe strategieën, ook geen nieuwe Ocean Pact. Wat zij wel nodig hebben zijn werkbare regels, investeringsruimte, rechtszekerheid en een toekomstperspectief.
En daarom blijf ik herhalen: geen woorden maar daden. Actie op de aanlandplicht, actie op innovatie, actie op modernisering en actie op het budget. Dank u wel.
Stephen Nikola Bartulica
Merci. L'orateur suivant, Stephen Bartulica.
Zahvaljujem povjereniče Kadis, kolegice i kolege. Konačno raspravljamo na plenarnoj sjednici o ribarstvenoj politici. Nije pretjerano reći da je stanje alarmantno. Valja ponoviti podatak da Europa uvozi preko 70% ribe koju konzumiramo. Na neki način svojim regulativima pomažemo konkurenciji, stvaramo jaču konkurenciju nego što je potrebno, a naši ribari i dalje se nose sa vrlo teškim teretom.
Još nisam upoznao ribara koji mi kaže da mu je lakše otkad je Hrvatska ušla u Europsku uniju. Stanje se mora hitno promijeniti. Mediteranska uredba je na snazi 20 godina. Zastarjela je. Situacija se promijenila.
Imamo nedostatak male plave ribe. To svi znamo, ali ništa se ne događa da se ispravi to stanje. Dakle, dame i gospodo, ribarima se godinama nameću nova ograničenja, dok konkretna rješenja izostaju. Zato je nužna hitna revizija mediteranske uredbe i ovaj regulatorni okvir koji će istodobno štititi ribarske interese, ali osigurati stokove. Dakle, vrijeme za djelovanje, a ne više samo praznih fraza.
Hvala.
Emma Ytterell
Merci beaucoup. Emma Wiesner.
Thank you, Chair. The Common Fisheries Policy stems back from more than 55 years and is, together with the Common Agricultural Policy and the internal market, one of our core policies of our Union. And that's why this discussion is so important today. For Renew Europe, our priority is that policies that delivers for fisheries and for the marine environment and for the coastal communities that depend on both of these. The Commission's evaluation of the CFP shows that there is room for improvement.
And as we all know, evaluation is only worth something if it leads to action. We see a need for a landing obligation that meets the objectives, which this evaluation shows that it does not. We see a need for an energy transition within the sector, but the proposal for the new MFF risk burying funding under administrative red tape. And we see the need for the Commission to respond to the crisis, not the least in the Baltic Sea, and not the least since the Parliament adopted our report on the management plan.
Commissioner, you have a lot to do, and this evaluation shows so. But the main fight today should not be on the revision of the legal text or not. It should be about real action for real people. Our simple task to the Commission is simply to ask to act. Time for reflection is over, and we need to make sure that we have a CFP that delivers thriving oceans, fisheries, and coastal communities.
Thank you.
Isabella Lövin
Colleagues, Commissioner, the 2013 CFP reform, it took more than four years to perform. There was a white paper, a green paper, we had impact assessments, we had discussions in member states, evaluations, discussions in the sector. It took a very long time, and it was a thorough work. And the evaluation now shows that what we did was the right thing to do. We haven't reached all the objectives, that's true.
But the evaluation shows that it's not because the objectives were wrong, it's because there hasn't been enough commitment in member states to really implement the policies needed. The landing obligation, there's funds to be used, there's ways and technical measures to avoid unwanted catches, but the evaluation shows that very few member states have invested in that. Now, rebuilding stocks at biomass levels above those that can produce maximum sustainable yield, well, here we have to need to apply the precautionary approach with quota setting, and we need accurate stock assessments. But that's impossible without sufficient control and data collection. And still, again, member states have not invested in that enough.
Overcapacity of fleets, we still have overcapacity. And the fact remains that with more boats, we will not have more fish in the ocean. The only thing we will have is less profitable fishermen. And this fact needs to really be understood. We need to focus on these things.
And we also need to understand we have a climate crisis that is not only affecting people in Paris or us here sweating in Strasbourg, it's also affecting fish stocks and the ocean, and we need to take that into account. So now we have the chance to really harmonize and clarify our legislation with the Ocean Act, and that is what we should be focusing on. Thank you very much.
Luke Ming Flanagan
Merci beaucoup, chère collègue. Pour une minute trente, Luke Flanagan.
I was glad to see that the evaluation clearly recognizes that healthy ecosystems are a prerequisite for sustainable and profitable fisheries. And in the PECH Committee last month, you said that improving daily life for small-scale fishers is a priority for the Commission. However, the findings of the evaluation are stark. It finds that the CFP is not effectively supporting small-scale coastal fishers. The value of their catches is declining.
There is no generational renewal, and it is key, which is key to face the persistent challenges regarding access to fishing communities. And when I asked you last month if the Ocean Act would allocate preferential access to small-scale low-impact fishers within the 12-mile nautical mile zone, the reply was that it is up to member states to designate areas at sea, which of course you are correct on. But no matter how much support for small-scale fishers is expressed in policies and legislation, and it really is, you'd be really positive if you read it and you thought it was going to happen, the reality is that the power to improve daily life for small-scale fisher largely lies with member states, and we don't see that happening.
We need to be talking about access to quota, access to funding, and this should be a debate at home in Ireland, because all we hear at home in Ireland when it comes to the fisheries debate is Ireland got a bad deal when it came to getting quota. Yeah, I agree, we should have more quota, but that doesn't seem to be changing, and to me it's just a populist debate that goes on and on. We need to discuss why the quota we have, more of it doesn't go to small-scale fishers. Thank you for your work, Commissioner.
Siegbert Frank Droese
Herr Präsident, verehrte Kollegen, Herr Kommissar, wir stehen erneut hier, diskutieren die sogenannten gemischten Ergebnisse der Gemeinsamen Fischereipolitik. Für Europas Fischer und Küstengemeinden sind diese Ergebnisse jedoch alles andere als gemischt, sie sind existenzbedrohend. Das ist zutiefst ungerecht, denn Europas Fischer waren bereit, Opfer zu bringen und glaubten den falschen Versprechen dieser EU. Sie akzeptierten geringere Fangmöglichkeiten, strengere Vorschriften und kostspielige Anpassungen, um die Ziele vor allem der Klima-Ideologie und den Nachhaltigkeitszirkus der Gemeinsamen Fischereipolitik zu erreichen. Ihnen wurde versprochen, dass diese Opfer zu reichhaltigeren Fischbeständen und besseren wirtschaftlichen Perspektiven führen.
Die europäischen Fischer warten bis heute vergebens. Selbst nach Berücksichtigung des Brexits fängt die EU-Fischereiflotte heute rund ein Viertel weniger Fisch als noch vor zehn Jahren, 25 Prozent weniger in zehn Jahren, das sollte uns in Alarmstimmung versetzen. Wir erleben eine schrumpfende Flotte, sinkende Beschäftigung und eine alternde Belegschaft, die für ihre Kinder keine Zukunft mehr in der Fischerei sieht. Als die Gemeinsame Fischereipolitik 2014 reformiert wurde, gab es in Europa noch 155.000 Fischereibetriebe, heute sind es nur noch rund 120.000. Und diese sind permanent von Bürokratie, niedrigen Einkommen und immer strengeren Regeln bedroht, die die Realität gemischter Fischereien ignorieren.
Das ist keine Nachhaltigkeit. Das ist ein gesteuerter Niedergang unserer Ernährungssicherheit, das muss uns klar sein. Brüssel hat immer neue Ebenen der Regulierung, Überwachung und Kontrolle geschaffen, während ausländische Importe unsere Märkte überschwemmen. Im Jahr 2000 importierte diese EU rund 40 Prozent der konsumierten Meeresfrüchte, dieser Anteil ist heute auf 70 Prozent gestiegen. 70 Prozent und wir haben eine eigene Fischindustrie, das muss man sich mal vorstellen.
Und da sitzt der Kommissar für Fischerei und erzählt uns immer noch seine grünen Märchen. Gleichzeitig werden europäische Gewässer zunehmend von Drittstaaten befischt, was die Erholung der Bestände besonders im Mittelmeer erschwert. Die Antwort der EU darauf lediglich ja, die Fangtage für europäische Fischer weiter zu reduzieren, statt konsequent gegen illegale Fischerei vorzugehen. Die Gemeinsame Fischereipolitik ist ein perfektes Symbol für alles, was in dieser Union schiefläuft. Zentralisierte Macht in Brüssel, die nationales und regionales Wissen aushebelt, ideologische Umweltziele, die wirtschaftliche und soziale Realitäten ignorieren.
Und das Schlimmste ist die Weigerung, unsere eigenen europäischen Fischer an erste Stelle zu setzen. Was ist zu tun? Was werden wir als Alternative für Deutschland tun? Ernährungssouveränität, Ernährungssicherheit ist für uns Priorität eins. Wettbewerbsfähige europäische Fischfangflotten und blühende Küstengemeinden müssen Vorrang bekommen vor einer globalistischen, grünen, weltfremden Ideologie.
Weg damit. Herr Kommissar, die Bewertung ist eindeutig, die Gemeinsame Fischereipolitik hat unsere Fischer im Stich gelassen.
Isabelle Le Callennec
Nous avons identifié les articles de la PCP et du FEAMPA qu'il faut revisiter pour décarboner les navires et améliorer les conditions de travail. Rien ni personne ne devrait désormais faire obstacle à cette nécessité, et les moyens financiers pour y parvenir doivent être sanctuarisés. De même que le temps est venu de simplifier et de regrouper en un seul texte les révisions attendues : obligation de débarquement, contrôle des pêches, organisation commune des marchés, autant de règles pour certaines inapplicables, pour d'autres inopérantes. Et vous avez pu le constater vous-même, Monsieur le Commissaire, au cours de vos très nombreux déplacements à la rencontre des acteurs de la pêche. D'où l'urgence à agir en conservant les avancées de la PCP, et il y en a, mais en acceptant aussi de corriger ce qui doit l'être.
Vous avez annoncé des amendements ciblés, notre groupe du PPE est prêt à y travailler sans tarder. Je vous remercie.
Nicolás González Casares
Merci beaucoup, chère collègue. Nicolás González Casares.
Como vostede sabe, comisario, eu son galego, e non se pode entender Galicia sen o mar e sen a pesca. E é certo, a política pesqueira común ha permitido mellorar a sostenibilidade das capturas europeas, pero agora é importante garantir a sostenibilidade das comunidades pesqueiras, porque iso é o que está en perigo. Admitámolo, a evaluación da política pesqueira común constata: destrución dun 30 % do emprego do sector, perda de poder adquisitivo, falta de relevo generacional, obsolescencia da flota. Non falamos de problemas de implementación, falamos de problemas de deseño e de novas realidades, problemas que se van a acrecentar cun recorte inadmisible dos fondos da pesca que temos que impedir. Comisario, é o momento de propoñer de forma inminente unha reforma específica da política pesqueira común para reequilibrar as tres dimensións da sostenibilidade, impulsar o relevo generacional, afrontar o envellecemento da flota con axudas para a descarbonización da mesma, reformar o enfoque obsoleto da capacidade pesqueira, promover TACs plurianuais e introducir límites ás variacións interanuais de TACs e cotas.
E é que ao sector se lle acaba a paciencia. E créame, volvo ao principio, soy gallego, son galego, e queremos seguir traendo frescura ás mesas da xente de Europa. Moitas grazas.
France Jamet
Merci beaucoup. France Jamet.
Aujourd'hui, on doit parler de la politique commune de la pêche et de son évaluation depuis 2013. C'est un vaste programme, et qu'en dire réellement ? Doit-on parler de l'inaction de la Commission qui batifole d'évaluation en réunion, de réunion en résumé, de résumé en groupe de travail, de groupe de travail en évaluation avant de recommencer le cycle infernal ? Parce qu'en fait, Monsieur Kadis, rien ne bouge. À chaque audition, ce sont les mêmes termes creux, les mêmes impasses politiques qui mènent notre pêche à sa perte.
Et je pense sincèrement que c'est le but ultime : tuer notre pêche artisanale au profit d'une pêche financiarisée. Pour autant, ce serait trop facile de s'en tenir à la simple responsabilité de la Commission.
Je crois qu'il faut parler aussi ici plutôt de ceux qui n'ont jamais de mots assez durs sur le terrain pour dénoncer Bruxelles, mais qui ont voté et votent tout ce que la Commission impose à nos pêcheurs artisans. C'est en fait, je pense, de cela que meurt notre filière pêche. Et ce sont eux qui portent l'entière responsabilité de la situation de nos pêcheurs aujourd'hui. Alors notre engagement est tout autre : résister, défendre notre pêche, défendre notre souveraineté alimentaire, changer de cap et enfin porter l'espérance de nos pêcheurs pour demain. Car c'est à leurs côtés que nous nous battons, nous ne lâcherons rien et tout est encore possible.
Carlo Ciccioli
Orateur suivant, Carlo Ciccioli.
Grazie Presidente. La valutazione della politica comune della pesca conferma ciò che i nostri pescatori stanno denunciando da anni. La stessa Commissione riconosce che il settore soffre di un progressivo invecchiamento degli operatori, della difficoltà di attrarre i giovani e di una redditività troppo modesta. La relazione ammette sostanzialmente che gli obiettivi economici e sociali della riforma non sono stati raggiunti. Proprio per questo è arrivato il momento di cambiare passo.
Un modello costruito quasi esclusivamente su vincoli, divieti e burocrazia finisce per indebolire l'intero comparto, rende più deboli le nostre marinerie, aumenta la dipendenza dell'Unione dalle importazioni di prodotti ittici provenienti da paesi che non rispettano i nostri stessi standard ambientali e sociali. In Italia il 70-80% del prodotto ittico è importato. La sostenibilità non è solo ambientale, deve essere economica, sociale e alimentare. Senza imprese competitive, senza redditività e senza nuove generazioni disposte a impegnarsi nella pesca non esiste alcuna transizione. Con una revisione ci si aspettano più risorse per il settore, una radicale semplificazione delle regole superflue, il superamento di misure che hanno dimostrato tutti i loro limiti, come l'obbligo di sbarco, investimenti per il rinnovo della flotta, la sicurezza a bordo, l'innovazione e il rilancio della maricoltura europea, che è essenziale.
Difendiamo la nostra sovranità alimentare, il lavoro delle comunità costiere, il futuro dei giovani che vogliono ancora impegnarsi in questa professione. La transizione sostenibile non può essere un percorso ideologico contro i pescatori, deve essere una transizione pragmatica.
Asger Christensen
Merci beaucoup. Asger Christensen.
Tak formand. Kommissær, evalueringen af den fælles fiskeripolitik giver en god anledning til at gøre status. Fiskeripolitikken skal bygge på en balance mellem den miljømæssige, økonomiske og sociale bæredygtighed. Vi skal beskytte fiskebestandene, men vi skal også sikre et fortsat erhverv og levende kystsamfund. I Danmark er fiskeriet en vigtig del af vores fødevareproduktion.
Derfor skal vi også turde tale om de reelle udfordringer, som vi står med. Fiskebestandene er under pres fra mange sider: forurening, iltsvind, og en særlig voldsom skarvbestand påvirker bestandene markant. Ny forskning i Danmark viser, at 84% af torskeyngel og skrubber, dem tager skarven. Derfor løser vi ikke udfordringen med at stille flere krav til fiskerne. Vi har brug for en fiskeripolitik, som tager fat på de faktorer, som påvirker livet under vand.
Sådan kan vi beskytte havmiljøet, sunde fiskebestande og bevare et konkurrencedygtigt erhverv. Tak for ordet.
Sebastian Everding
Merci beaucoup. Sebastian Everding.
Sehr geehrter Herr Kommissar, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen. Wissen Sie eigentlich, was Tomaten in Spanien mit dem Thema der heutigen Debatte zu tun haben? Eine ganze Menge. In Europa haben wir immer mehr Aquakulturen überall in unseren Ozeanen, beispielsweise für Lachs, und die werden sehr gerne als besonders nachhaltig deklariert. Aber auch diese Millionen Lachse müssen etwas essen, müssen Futter haben, und dafür werden tonnenweise Wildfische gefangen, nur um sie danach zu Fischmehl zu verarbeiten, um diese dann zu verfüttern.
Für diese Wildfische gibt es enorme Überfischung in allen Regionen, beispielsweise auch in den Küstenregionen Westafrikas, gerade bei Kleinfischern.
Die Fischerei in diesen Regionen ist teilweise komplett zusammengebrochen und viele Menschen und ganze Familien verlieren ihre Lebensgrundlage dadurch und werden dadurch in die Migration getrieben, beispielsweise auf die Kanarischen Inseln. Und viele, die die gefährliche Überfahrt überleben, die landen als Schwarzarbeiter illegal und unter prekären Arbeitsbedingungen in den Gewächshäusern der Tomatenproduktion in Regionen wie Almería und in anderen Regionen in Spanien. Der industrielle Fischfang, wie er gerade praktiziert wird, der zerstört nicht nur Ozeane, Lebensräume, der schafft auch enorm viel menschliches Leid. Lassen Sie uns hier im Haus endlich aufhören, ausschließlich auf die Interessen der Fischerinnen und Fischer und der Industrie zu schauen. Wir brauchen viel mehr Schutzgebiete und wir brauchen viel weniger Fischfang.
Es gibt viele Lebewesen im Meer, die auf Fische angewiesen sind. Wir als Menschen sind das nicht. Vielen Dank.
Volker Schnurrbusch
Merci, orateur suivant, Volkers Schnorbuch.
Herr Präsident, Herr Kommissar, meine Damen und Herren, die Fischer in der Ostsee tun alles, was Politik von ihnen verlangt. Fangquoten wurden gekürzt, Hering und Kabeljau wurden geschont. Und doch haben sich die Bestände nicht erholt. Was ist die Reaktion der EU? Prämien für das Stilllegen, in diesem Jahr zum letzten Mal.
Die Entschädigungen für Robbenfraß laufen Ende 27 aus und danach nichts mehr. Das ist keine Fischereipolitik, das ist ein Abgesang auf einen ganzen Berufsstand. Dabei waren die Fischer nie das Problem. Es ist die Eutrophierung, es sind Robben und Kormorane, die mehr Fische fressen, als die Flotte überhaupt fangen darf. In der Nordsee besetzen Windparks die Fischgründe.
Bei Raumordnungsplänen werden die Fischer als Letzte, wenn überhaupt, konsultiert. Wir brauchen ein Prädatorenmanagement, Finanzhilfen für die Flottenerneuerung, den Schutz der Fischgründe und Quoten, die Raubfische und Nährstoffeinträge ehrlich berücksichtigen. Nichts davon findet sich in Ihrem Folgeprogramm. Diese Politik bestraft diejenigen, die sich an die Regeln halten, und ignoriert die wahren Ursachen des Rückschlags.
Younous Omarjee
Mr Schnorbuch, you have a request for a blue card come from Everding Sebastian. You're okay? Okay. Mr Everding.
Sebastian Everding
Hallo Herr Kollege, ich wollte eigentlich gerade den Raum verlassen, aber ich musste einfach stehen bleiben, weil immer wieder von Ihnen und vielen anderen diese Schein-Debatten geführt werden. Immer werden Robben, Kormorane, immer werden die Tiere als Sündenböcke genannt. Können Sie das wissenschaftlich belegen? Weil es gibt nachweisliche Zahlen, beispielsweise von der Uni in Stockholm, die den Einfluss von Kormoranen minimalst machen. Und es ist Überfischung, es ist Klimawandel, es sind Düngemittel, es ist Müll.
Das ist das, was das Problem der Fischerei ausmacht. Und doch bitte nicht die Tiere. Wenn Sie so was schon behaupten, dann bitte belegen.
Volker Schnurrbusch
Ja, vielen Dank, Herr Kollege, für die Frage. Natürlich gibt es eine Vielzahl von Problemen, die die Fischer an den Rand des Ruins bringen. Das habe ich auch nicht abgestritten. Aber es ist ganz klar, dass Robben und Kormorane auch zum Problemfeld dazugehören. Doch, ich komme direkt von Schleswig-Holstein, ich wohne an der Ostsee, und die Fischer dort geben auf, weil die Kormorane ihnen wirklich die Fische wegfressen.
Es ist eine Tatsache, und da gibt es auch belegbare Studien und Zahlen. Und das kann man nicht ignorieren. Ich habe das andere nicht abgestritten, aber ich habe das betont, was meiner Ansicht nach nicht genügend berücksichtigt wird.
Younous Omarjee
Merci.
Très bien. Nous poursuivons la discussion, Paulo do Nascimento Cabral.
Paulo do Nascimento Cabral
Muito obrigado, senhor presidente, senhor comissário. Entre 2017 e 23, o setor perdeu 15% da sua força de trabalho e neste momento a nossa dependência externa é superior a 80%. Baixos rendimentos, condições de trabalho pouco dignas, falta de renovação geracional e excesso de burocracia ameaçam o futuro da pesca e consequentemente as nossas comunidades costeiras. Sei bem do seu empenho, senhor comissário. É importante que este seu empenho e compromisso e defesa do setor das pescas também seja seguido por outros.
Como precisamos de estabilidade e previsibilidade regulatória, defendo uma revisão da política comum de pescas focada em quatro prioridades. Cotas de pesca plurianuais que garantam previsibilidade e conciliem os três pilares da sustentabilidade ambiental, mas também económica e social. Simplificar a legislação e reduzir a carga administrativa. Precisamos de um verdadeiro pacote de simplificação para as pescas. O Catch IT é importante e deve ser reavaliado para simplificar procedimentos.
E a recente obrigatoriedade de eliminar isenção de registo de descargas até 50 quilos foi também uma má medida que hoje corrigimos. Também o regime de ajudas deve ter por referência sempre a unidade de produção e não a empresa. Temos de investir na renovação das embarcações e acabar com a limitação por referência ao peso bruto e potência do motor. Melhores embarcações garantem mais segurança, melhor armazenamento do pescado e mais rendimento para os pescadores. É essencial manter o FEAMP autónomo e devidamente financiado para as pescas, para a aquacultura sustentada.
E neste momento urge proteger as regiões ultraperiféricas ao restabelecer o POSEI pescas. Precisamos também de condições de concorrência justas. Não podemos exigir aos nossos pescadores os mais elevados padrões ambientais, sociais, laborais e aceitarmos importações de países terceiros que não cumprem com estas mesmas regras. Sem pescadores não há pesca, sem pesca não há comunidades costeiras fortes, não há segurança alimentar nem há soberania marítima europeia. Muito obrigado.
Younous Omarjee
Merci Paulo. Tu as deux demandes de blue card, une venant d'un membre de ton groupe auquel je ne pourrai pas accéder. Je donne la parole à Madame Maria Grapini.
Maria Grapini
Mulțumesc, domnule președinte. Sunt de acord cu ceea ce ați spus legat de politica pescuitului și revizuirea regulamentului. N-ați spus însă nimic și mă interesează dacă grupul dumneavoastră politic, dacă dumneavoastră priviți toate reglementările în domeniul pescuitului și din perspectiva socială. Pentru că în multe zone, așa cum este și în țara mea, este o sursă de venit pentru foarte mulți, pentru micii pescari. Și ați vorbit de nevoia de finanțare.
Nu credeți sau credeți că ar trebui să existe o finanțare și pentru micii pescari? Cum se pot descurca în noianul de reglementări și în același timp fără posibilitate de investiții? Mulțumesc.
Paulo do Nascimento Cabral
Muito obrigado pela sua questão. Totalmente de acordo. Nós, no nosso grupo, defendemos ambas as possibilidades. No momento em que nós temos uma dependência externa superior a 80%, precisamos de ter aqui uma força de pesca muito mais forte, desde logo pela pequena pesca, a pesca artesanal, que é essencial e é o motor da pesca e das comunidades costeiras europeias. Por exemplo, nos Açores, nós também tivemos aqui um trabalho muito grande na definição das áreas marinhas protegidas e isto tem que ser compensado.
Nós conseguimos mobilizar financiamento público e privado e não pode agora a Comissão Europeia também bloquear. Portanto, é preciso agilizar procedimentos e que o dinheiro chegue efetivamente aos pequenos pescadores. Muito obrigado.
Younous Omarjee
Merci beaucoup, cher collègue. Nous poursuivons la discussion, Thomas Bajada.
Thomas Bajada
Ħa nibda b'mistoqsija sempliċi. Jekk inti tikkontrolla kemm tistat, imma dawk ta' madwarek ma jsegwux l-istess ambizzjoni, ħa jirnexxilek verament tipproteġi l-ħut? Il-politika komuni tas-sajd hija importanti u l-prinċipji tagħha għandhom jibqgħu. Imma s-simplifikazzjoni hija kelma importanti.
B'aktar simplifikazzjoni, b'aktar ġustizzja u b'sostenn lis-sajjieda żgħar tagħna li jiddependu mis-settur għall-għajxien tagħhom. Il-problema hawnhekk mhux neċessarjament il-liġi. Il-problema hija li l-liġi waħedha ma tistax tirnexxi fl-ambizzjoni ambjentali tagħha jekk ma nqasmux il-baħar ma' dawk li m'għandhomx l-istess intenzjoni tagħna. Fil-Mediterran naqsmu l-istess baħar u l-istess ħut. Għalhekk ir-responsabbiltà trid tkun ta' kulħadd.
L-Ewropa trid tkun aktar b'saħħitha mal-pajjiżi terzi f'dawn l-għaqdiet reġjonali. Jien nittama li l-Ewropa tuża l-aktar għodda b'saħħitha possibbli biex tieħu azzjoni kontra pajjiżi li jippermettu sajd li mhuwiex sostenibbli. Erba' ġimgħat oħra jibda l-istaġun tal-lampuki u s-sajjieda Maltin u Mediterranji se jerġgħu joħorġu jaħdmu. Għażiż Kummissarju, ħa nerġgħu nħallu lis-sajjieda Maltin tagħna u Mediterranji jiffaċċjaw sajd illegali u mhux sostenibbli minn pajjiżi terzi fil-Mediterran? Nitlobu biex titkellem mal-pajjiżi terzi qabel jibda l-istaġun, iżżid il-patrols u tipproteġi lil min qed jimxi mar-regoli.
Il-politika komuni tas-sajd trid tkun garanzija li nipproteġu lis-sajjieda tagħna. Grazzi Kummissarju.
Younous Omarjee
Merci beaucoup, Mr Bajada. You have a request, a blue card, Madame Crespo Díaz. You're okay, Madame Crespo Díaz.
Carmen Crespo Díaz
Muchas gracias, presidente, y gracias, señor Bajada. Coincido con usted en hablar de la pesca ilegal y de las prácticas desleales comerciales. Pero anteriormente, en otra intervención, el señor Eberstein se ha dedicado, en vez de acompañar a la pesca en este debate tan importante, en atacar a la agricultura de Almería. Yo soy de allí. He visto que usted ha afirmado y ha tocado las palmas.
¿No estará usted de acuerdo que allí se explota a los inmigrantes para cultivar tomates? Porque si no, esa realidad se la podemos enseñar y verá usted que está ante la agricultura potente, más importante y tecnificada y con respeto a los derechos humanos de Europa. Gracias.
Thomas Bajada
Napprezza li ma kinitx domanda diretta lejha jew l-anqas kienet domanda, però nirrispetta lill-president tal-kumitat tas-sajd biex nirrispettaw ukoll id-diskussjoni li hija fuq is-settur tas-sajd. U hawnhekk irridu nkomplu naraw li nibqgħu ffukati aħna d-deputati kollha tal-kumitat tas-sajd biex nipproteġu lis-sajjieda tagħna. U hekk se nibqgħu nagħmlu għaliex il-focus tagħna għandu jkun fuqhom u hekk se nkomplu nagħtu s-sapport tagħhom lilhom u lejn il-protezzjoni tal-baħar tagħna. Grazzi.
Mireia Borrás Pabón
Gracias, presidente, comisario. Europa lleva ya más de cuarenta años con una política pesquera común y la promesa era muy sencilla inicialmente: proteger al mar sin abandonar a aquellos que viven de él. Pues bien, la propia Comisión Europea acaba de reconocer que ha suspendido el examen. En la evaluación oficial publicada el pasado treinta de abril admite que doce años después de la última gran reforma, los resultados económicos y sociales prometidos no han llegado. Y hace apenas dos semanas, su primer informe social confirmó también lo que los pescadores llevan años denunciando, y es que uno de cada seis empleos pesqueros ha desaparecido desde dos mil diecisiete.
Un pescador cobra de media menos de la mitad que un trabajador europeo y solo uno de cada cuatro tiene menos de cuarenta años. Es decir, obviamente los jóvenes no ven futuro en el mar.
El sector lo resume con una frase que yo creo que cualquiera entiende y es que cada vez hay más barcos para los que salir a faenar cuesta más que quedarse amarrados en puerto. Pero no se equivoquen porque además este no es un problema exclusivo de los pescadores es un problema de todos los europeos ya que siete de cada diez pescados que consumimos ya vienen de fuera. De países a los que no exigimos ni las mismas normas sanitarias ni medioambientales ni laborales y que sí que imponemos como siempre a los nuestros con dureza. Y mientras aquí reducimos nuestra capacidad de producir alimentos miren al otro lado del estrecho Marruecos tiene cerca ya de diecisiete mil embarcaciones artesanales un trescientos setenta por ciento más que mil novecientos ochenta. Ellos amplían su flota nosotros pagamos por desguazar la nuestra y sin pescadores no hay pescado europeo ellos decidirán cómo cuándo y dónde comeremos pescado.
Gracias.
Bert-Jan Ruissen
Dank u wel voorzitter beste collega's wie de evaluatie van het gemeenschappelijk visserijbeleid leest zou zomaar de indruk indruk kunnen krijgen dat het vooral de lidstaten zijn die steken laten vallen. Wat echter totaal ontbreekt is een kritische blik op het Europees beleid zelf. Sluit dat nog wel aan op de praktijk. Daar moet het debat nu over gaan. Onze vissers willen verantwoord omgaan met de zee.
Maar zij hebben ook recht op regels die uitvoerbaar zijn en niet verzanden in bureaucratie. Een grondige vereenvoudiging van het gemeenschappelijk visserijbeleid is daarom dringend geboden. Zo moet de aanlandplicht worden teruggedraaid. En dat geldt ook voor het verbod op de pulsvisserij. Dat nota bene een techniek die zorgt voor verlaging van het brandstofverbruik en een selectiever vissen bevordert geen ruimte krijgt is voorzitter echt niet meer uit te leggen.
Kortom laten we onze vissers weer perspectief bieden met beleid dat realistisch is en uitvoerbaar en toekomstbestendig. Dank u wel.
Isabella Lövin
Thank you very much I think we share the ambition that we want to have a lot of fish in the ocean and profitable fishermen. But how do you foresee that we will have more fish in the ocean and more profitable fishermen with less rules? Is that really something that you believe in because what we need is in fact a level playing field for all the fishermen that all the fishermen abide by the same rules and that we really get stocks back into a good shape.
Bert-Jan Ruissen
Dank u wel voor deze mooie vraag. U vraagt naar naar de noodzaak van regels en of we niet bepaalde behoefte of er geen behoefte is aan regels. Ik zou dit willen zeggen regels zie ik eerst en vooral als gestold gestold wantrouwen. En ik denk dat we weer terug moeten naar de gedachte dat we de ondernemers dat we ook de visser man weer vertrouwen moeten geven. En dat betekent dus dat je moet durven snijden in bureaucratie dat je moet durven snijden in regelgeving.
Wat ik constateer dat we te maken hebben met diverse regels die juist contraproductief werken en die die duurzame visserij die we eigenlijk met z'n allen weer willen helemaal niet bevorderen. Denk aan zo'n aanlandplicht dat is gewoon contraproductief. Daar moeten we de discussie over aangaan.
Oihane Agirregoitia Martínez
Dos mensajes muy claros para el día de hoy. El primero con respecto al marco financiero plurianual rechazamos absolutamente la centralización y la reducción de los fondos de pesca en esos sobres nacionales que en nuestro caso supondría que todo se decidiría desde Madrid tenemos un sector en Euskadi que merece ser escuchado desde la proximidad. Y el segundo con respecto a la política pesquera común.
Creemos que debe revisarse profundamente para hacer frente a los retos que tiene el sector y que pone en serias dificultades su viabilidad en el futuro. Y hablamos de precios de la energía, relevo generacional, descarbonización de la flota, definición de capacidad pesquera, lucha contra la pesca ilegal y revisión de obligaciones de desembarco. Queremos simplificación administrativa también para nuestros arrantzales y queremos y necesitamos equilibrio entre los objetivos medioambientales, económicos y sociales. Y el informe que se presentaba en el mes de abril lo que hacía es evidenciar que existen deficiencias que debemos abordar cuanto antes. Y comisario, sabemos que usted tiene voluntad política para afrontarlos, pero es que el tiempo de reflexión ha finalizado y necesitamos actuar ya.
Eskerrik asko.
Ana Miranda Paz
Usted como yo defiende aquí la pesca y defiende además a los pescadores, a las mariscadoras y también a las redeiras que no sé cómo se dice en vasco, pero me lo dirá usted ahora. Nosotros consideramos que no se ha tenido en cuenta la sostenibilidad social en la política pesquera común y por tanto es algo que le llevamos mucho tiempo reclamando al comisario porque ha habido normas que en sus decisiones como las vedas no se ha tenido en cuenta la sostenibilidad social. Vemos cómo está ahora el sector del marisqueo que está ahogado. Entonces le quería preguntar qué opina sobre la inclusión de la sostenibilidad social.
Oihane Agirregoitia Martínez
Muchísimas gracias por la pregunta. Y bueno, yo creo que es algo que tenemos clarísimo quienes estamos, quienes tenemos sector en nuestras regiones y naciones y quienes queremos defender tanto la sostenibilidad de los océanos como la sostenibilidad de la actividad económica y social poniendo en valor también a las mujeres que las mencionaba y que es importante reconocerlas también en este momento. Y desde ahí pues trabajaremos y pelearemos de la mano porque sabemos que además los arrantzales, el sector pesquero son los primeros interesados en garantizar la viabilidad y el cuidado del océano porque eso es lo que les garantiza el futuro realmente de manera que eso es lo que creemos que tenemos que defender. Eskerrik asko, muchísimas gracias.
Anja Hazekamp
Dank u wel voorzitter, welkom commissaris. Jaarlijks worden wereldwijd miljarden vissen uit zee gevangen en vervolgens weer overboord gegooid. Vissers gooien die vissen terug als ze te klein zijn of domweg omdat ze te weinig geld opleveren. Meer dan 70% van alle vissen die overboord worden gegooid sterft daarna alsnog. Voor niets.
In 2015 heeft Europa daarom deze verspillende praktijk verboden. Maar nu, 11 jaar later, worden ongewenste vissen in Europa nog steeds massaal overboord gegooid. En in plaats van strenger te controleren op illegale praktijken overweegt Europa nu om het wangedrag van deze visserij-industrie te belonen en het lozen van vissen waaraan weinig waarde wordt toegekend maar toe te staan. Commissaris, een vis heeft de meeste waarde als hij gezond en wel in zee zwemt en daar het ecosysteem gezond houdt.
Onze zeeën worden nog steeds ernstig overbevist. Bescherm onze zeeën en bescherm de strenge visserijregels. We hebben ze hard nodig. Dank u wel.
Younous Omarjee
Madame Hazekamp, Anja, yes. Mr. Smit have request your OK? OK, Mr. Smit.
Sander Smit
Thank you, Chair. Mevrouw Hazekamp, weer doet u het. Weer viseert u onze duurzame Nederlandse en Europese visserij, die zich aan strenge regels moet voldoen, die selectiever wil vissen. Weer viseert u onze vissers. Hoe reflecteert u eigenlijk op uw erfenis in de afgelopen jaren en het feit dat u pleit voor nog strengere regels nu de EU al voor 70% afhankelijk is van visimport uit derde landen, waar inderdaad, daar heeft u gelijk, niet altijd duurzaam wordt gevist.
Maar waarom viseert u onze visserijsector? U zou trots moeten zijn op onze Europese Nederlandse vissers.
Anja Hazekamp
Ja, nou, die Nederlandse vissers, laat ik daarbij wel vooropstellen dat die hebben de grootste schepen ter wereld, die in heel veel andere delen van de wereld als schepen uit de hel worden benoemd en die inderdaad onder andere vlaggen varen, bijvoorbeeld Panama. En laten we niet vergeten dat van de, van de alle visserij, laten we kijken naar de Oostzee. Daar leeft bijna geen kabeljauw meer. Middellandse Zee, meer dan de helft van de vissen wordt nog steeds overbevist. De Noordzee, schol en tong, al decennialang overbevist.
Laten we elkaar nu gewoon even eerlijk de cijfers noemen en zeggen dat er iets moet veranderen. Dank u wel.
Željana Zovko
Merci beaucoup, Željana Zovko.
Hvala vam, gospodine predsjedniče. Poštovani povjereniče Kadis, deset godina zajedničke ribarstvene politike jasno je pokazalo što našim ribarima danas treba, a to ste vidjeli prigodom obilaska u Hrvatskoj, na čemu vam zahvaljujem. Jednostavnija pravila, pravedni uvjeti na tržištu i manje administrativnog opterećenja. Kao izvjestiteljica primjene pravila ribarstva u Sredozemlju, pozivam ponovo da se ribarima osigura više fleksibilnosti, pravila prilagođenih stvarnim uvjetima na moru, posebno hrvatskim ribarima koji većinom love malim obalnim plovilima. Članstvo Hrvatske u Europskoj uniji donijelo je konkretne rezultate.
Kroz europske fondove i politike modernizirana je flota, luke i akvakultura i osigurano je više od 700 milijuna eura potpore. Hrvatsko ribarstvo danas je otpornije, konkurentnije i održivije. Ali ribari moraju ostati u središtu europske ribarstvene politike. Govorimo o održivim radnim mjestima, opstanku naših obalnih zajednica i sigurnosti opskrbe hranom. Novi europski proračun zato mora pratiti ambicije koje postavljamo pred ovaj sektor.
Od ribara ne možemo tražiti više ako im ne osiguramo odgovarajuću financijsku potporu. Samo politika koja istodobno štiti naše more i ljude koji od njega žive može osigurati budućnost europskog ribarstva. Zahvaljujem.
Merci beaucoup, chers collègues, Sérgio Gonçalves.
Sérgio Gonçalves
Senhor Presidente, Senhor Comissário, nos últimos anos o setor das pescas europeu perdeu rentabilidade, a frota envelheceu e muitos armadores não conseguem investir na modernização nem avançar com a melhoria de condições a bordo, essenciais para atrair novas gerações para este setor. O Parlamento alertou no seu relatório sobre a descarbonização e modernização das pescas que o quadro atual restringe ou impede a ajuda pública, o que afasta o investimento privado e trava a renovação das frotas. Tudo isto afeta de forma desproporcional pequenas comunidades que dependem do setor, como acontece na minha região, a Madeira.
Em termos de orçamento, é também incompreensível que a Comissão Europeia proponha uma redução de mais de 66% da verba para o fundo dedicado às pescas no próximo quadro financeiro plurianual. Se queremos ter um setor das pescas revitalizado e a contribuir decisivamente para o reforço da nossa autonomia estratégica, precisamos de ambição acompanhada de meios financeiros e instrumentos adequados. Obrigado.
Younous Omarjee
Merci beaucoup. Je clôture les demandes pour la procédure catch-the-eye, je donne la parole à Nora Junco García.
Nora Junco García
Gracias, presidente, comisario. La semana pasada embarqué en un barco de pescadores en Calpe, en una pequeña población del Mediterráneo. Me levanté de madrugada con ellos y vi cómo trabajan, cómo planifican cada lance, cómo controlan cada captura y cómo cumplen con unas normas cada vez más exigentes. Salí de allí con una reflexión: nuestros pescadores no se sienten parte de la solución, se sienten permanentemente bajo sospecha. Llevan años haciendo sacrificios enormes y, sin embargo, cada año tienen menos días para faenar, más incertidumbre, más dificultades para mantener a flote sus empresas familiares y realmente piensan que la Unión Europea quiere acabar con el sector.
Mientras hablamos de sostenibilidad, muchos puertos desaparecen, muchos barcos también desaparecen, muchos empleos también desaparecen y lo que es más preocupante, desaparecen los jóvenes que quieren continuar con esta profesión. Por eso necesitamos que la sostenibilidad tenga tres pilares: el ambiental, el económico y el social. Y necesitamos una revisión profunda de la política pesquera común, una política que deje de medir únicamente toneladas y empiece a medir también personas, empleos y comunidades. Gracias.
Merci beaucoup, Karin Karlsbro. Madame, yes, Mr. Mularczyk have a request, a blue card. Okay, you have the floor.
Karin Karlsbro
Jako poseł z Polski, kraju, który ma dostęp do Morza Bałtyckiego, chciałem zapytać koleżankę, która reprezentuje również kraj, który ma dostęp do Morza Bałtyckiego, o politykę Unii Europejskiej wobec tego morza, zwłaszcza politykę rybacką. Słuchając tutaj dyskusji koleżanek i kolegów z różnych krajów Unii Europejskiej, widzę, że wszyscy krytykują politykę Unii Europejskiej. Pytanie: dlaczego tak jest, że polityka Komisji Europejskiej, Unii Europejskiej jest przeciwko rybakom europejskim i dlaczego ściągamy więcej ryb z krajów pozaunijnych, a nie z krajów unijnych?
Karin Karlsbro
Tack för din fråga och det här är någonting vi behöver debattera. Vi kan tycka olika om hur politiken ska utformas, men jag skulle önskat att vi kunde enas kring ett gemensamt mål för Östersjön, att det ska vara ett friskt och sundt innanhav och att vi har en politik som gör att våra fiskebestånd överlever till kommande generationer. Och så är det inte idag. Och det finns inget land runt Östersjön som kan klara av att lösa det här stora problemet på egen hand och därför så måste vi samarbeta. Och det är därför den här debatten är så viktig.
Tack.
Francisco José Millán Mon
Gracias presidente, comisario. La evaluación de la PPC ofrece un diagnóstico acertado: flota extractiva en declive, acuicultura estancada e industria transformadora más próspera. Pero no puedo compartir las conclusiones demasiado autocomplacientes. En mi opinión, comisario, la Comisión debiera hacer dos cosas. Primero, un ómnibus de simplificación para la pesca.
Celebro su intención, comisario, de reformar el plan plurianual del Mediterráneo, algo urgente que llevamos reclamando tiempo, y el FEMPA, pero no me parece suficiente. El ómnibus debe abordar como mínimo otros dos asuntos: la exclusión del palangre del reglamento de aguas profundas y la revisión de algunos aspectos concretos del reglamento de control que se han demostrado de muy difícil o incluso imposible cumplimiento, por ejemplo el artículo 14 en lo relativo a la obligación de registrar las capturas desde el primer kilo. Además, el ómnibus debe presentarse cuanto antes. Los pescadores no pueden esperar más. En segundo lugar, además del ómnibus, necesitamos una reforma de la PPC que debe abordar los siguientes elementos: flexibilizar tanto la obligación de desembarque como la aplicación del rendimiento máximo sostenible.
En segundo lugar, reformar el concepto de capacidad pesquera para permitir la descarbonización y modernización de la flota, esenciales para el relevo generacional. También redefinir el concepto de pesca artesanal para que no se base exclusivamente en la eslora. Y también introducir consideraciones socioeconómicas a la hora de fijar TACs y cuotas. Comisario, es la hora de actuar, de tomar de una vez decisiones políticas. Usted mismo lo acaba de decir, y es la Comisión la que tiene el monopolio de la iniciativa legislativa.
Muchas gracias.
Sakis Arnaoutoglou
Κύριε Επίτροπε, μόλις την περασμένη εβδομάδα και πιο συγκεκριμένα την Κυριακή συναντήθηκα με εκπροσώπους των αλιέων στον Άγιο Ρέτη στην Αττική. Λοιπόν, μου ζήτησαν να σας μεταφέρω και στην Ευρωπαϊκή Επιτροπή και σε εσάς προσωπικά τη φωνή φυσικά και την αγωνία τους. Την ξέρετε και νομίζω την ξέρετε αρκετά καλά. Μου μίλησαν για το υψηλό κόστος καυσίμων, το γερασμένο στόλο, την ασφυκτική γραφειοκρατία, τη δυσκολία των νέων να μπουν στο επάγγελμα και τον αθέμιτο ανταγωνισμό, την παράνομη αλιεία από τρίτες χώρες και ειδικά από την Τουρκία που δεν εφαρμόζει τους ίδιους κανόνες. Η αξιολόγηση της κοινής αλιευτικής πολιτικής δείχνει πρόοδο στη διαχείριση των ιχθυοαποθεμάτων.
Αυτό είναι σημαντικό, όμως η επιτυχία της δεν μπορεί να κρίνεται μόνο από τους περιβαλλοντικούς δείκτες. Πρέπει λοιπόν και να κρίνεται και από το αν ο επαγγελματίας αλιέας μπορεί να ζήσει με αξιοπρέπεια από αυτή τη δουλειά του και αν οι παράκτιες κοινότητες έχουν μέλλον. Κύριε Επίτροπε, οι αλιείς δεν ζητούν προνόμια, το λέμε και το ξαναλέμε, ζητούν δίκαιους κανόνες, λιγότερη γραφειοκρατία, ουσιαστική στήριξη και ίσους όρους ανταγωνισμού. Γνωρίζω, κύριε Επίτροπε, την αξιολογότατη δουλειά σας και θέλω να σταθείτε δίπλα στους ανθρώπους της θάλασσας με ουσιαστικές πρωτοβουλίες.
Σας ευχαριστώ.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr. Smith for one minute, please.
Sander Smit
Thank you, Chair. Voorzitter, Commissaris, de eigen evaluatie van de Commissie bevestigt wat onze vissers al jaren constateren. De aanlandplicht heeft gefaald. Gefaald. Ze heeft niet geleid tot meer selectiviteit.
Als regelgeving haar doelstellingen overduidelijk niet haalt, kan de oplossing niet bestaan uit betere uitvoering. Dan moeten de regels zelf worden herzien. Onze vissers vragen om oplossingen, niet om papierwerk. De EU heeft behoefte aan een visserij-omnibus. Herziening van de aanlandplicht, generatievernieuwing en realisme over de energietransitie.
Europa is nu al voor 70% van onze vis afhankelijk van import van buiten. Commissie, commissieambtenaar ook, verdedigt u regels die aantoonbaar niet werken of heeft u eindelijk de moed om de concurrentiekracht van de sector te herstellen via een omnibus? Vissers rekenen op u. Dank u wel.
Mr. Smith, there is a blue card for you. Do you want to take it? So, seat 411, Mr. do Nascimento Cabral, please.
Paulo do Nascimento Cabral
Muito obrigado, senhor Presidente, senhor Deputado. Falou da questão da burocracia, falou da questão da dependência externa e deixe-me dar-lhe dois exemplos claros. Nos Açores, por liderança do governo de José Manuel Bolieiro, definimos 300.000 quilómetros quadrados de áreas marinhas protegidas e estas compensações, através da mobilização de fundos privados e públicos, estão parados na Comissão Europeia. Na Madeira, temos financiamento público para a renovação das embarcações e, mais uma vez, estas decisões estão paradas na Comissão Europeia, não no Comissário das Pescas, que sei que tudo tem feito, mas na estrutura da Comissão. Como é que acha que nós podemos agilizar estes procedimentos?
Muito obrigado.
Sander Smit
Ja, dat is een heel terecht punt van de heer do Nascimento Cabral. Ik denk dat de outermost regions and territories absoluut steun verdienen in hun specifieke uitdagingen. En ik denk dat de Commissie als zodanig daarop ook moet reflecteren. De Europese Unie is niet alleen op het continent, maar ook op eilanden in overzeese gebiedsdelen. Dus daarin ook de volle aandacht mijnerzijds en ik hoop ook daarop met u te kunnen samenwerken in de toekomst.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Ms. Ni Mhurchú for one minute, please.
Speaker 89
A Choimisinéir, fáilte romhat, ríomh an mheastóireacht seo an ghabháltas iascaigh, ach cúis imní iad na torthaí do iascairí na hEorpa agus iascairí na hÉireann. Inmharthanacht gheilleagrach fhadtéarmach, ach gan inmharthanacht shóisialta agus eacnamaíoch na mbád, ní bheidh aon chosaint don chomhshaol ann. Tá iascairí na hÉireann tar éis glacadh leis na cinntí deacra a bhí os ár gcomhair, don iarracht choiteann, agus beart a dhéanamh de réir ár mbriathar, ach mar sin féin tá brú millteanach, millteanach mór orthu le cuótaí, le méadú mór le hachas, costaisí éiginnteacht faoin todhchaí agus an rud is measa ná an méid báid fágtha don chéad ghlúin eile in Éirinn. Bímis macánta, ní beartas rathúil iascaigh é beartas a laghdaíonn cabhlaigh, a bhaineann an bonn de ghnólachtaí agus a oibríonn ar mhalairt costais. A Choimisinéir, cad is féidir linn a dhéanamh?
Rabhainn an t-iascach a chosaint, tacú le hinfheistíocht cabhlaigh, mórleathas a laghdú, agus uimhir a ceathair, cothrom na féinne a chinntiú d'iascairí na hÉireann agus na hEorpa. Go raibh míle maith agat.
Thank you very much. There's a blue card for you, Ms. Ni Mhurchú. Do you want to take a blue card from Mr. Flanagan? Please.
Luke Ming Flanagan
Mr. Flanagan. Chair, go raibh maith agat, tá an cheist an-tábhachtach. 87% of fishers in Ireland are small-scale fishers. There is nothing stopping the Irish state from giving small-scale low-impact fishers access to more quota, nothing stopping us. There's nothing stopping the Irish state from providing to there's nothing stopping the Irish state from providing small-scale fishers in Ireland with funding, front-loaded, but it isn't happening.
And you can actually do it. So the question is why don't you do that? Because they can't get this funding for their marketing plans. 87% of the fishers and they've less than 10% of the quota.
Speaker 87
Neart go chur le chéile, unity with strength as you know, Mr. Ming Flanagan, that is mana Uachtaránacht na hÉireann and all of our fishers are being looked after by Minister Charlie McConalogue, my government Fianna Fáil, who is now leading out on the Council of Europe and rest assured all efforts are being made, all work is being done, gach dícheall ar son gach iascaire in Éirinn, ní amháin na hiascairí móra ach na hiascairí beaga chomh maith.
Jessica Polfjärd
Tack fru talman, herr kommissionär. Jag vill börja med att tacka kommissionen för utvärderingen, en hållbar och konkurrenskraftig fiskesektor är avgörande för Sveriges och Europas beredskap och för vår livsmedelssäkerhet. Varje hav är unikt. Det är inte något som ett enskilt land kan hantera på egen hand, haven tillhör oss alla och därför krävs samarbete för att förvalta dem och här spelar EU en viktig roll. Men även länder utanför EU påverkar våra hav, när vi utvecklar framtidens fiskepolitik behöver vi också se konsekvenserna av andra länders agerande.
Det innebär bland annat att vi måste arbeta aktivt med regionala fiskeorganisationer, men också att vi måste vara beredda att använda hårdare verktyg mot länder som inte respekterar internationella regler. I Östersjön gäller det särskilt Ryssland. Ryssland fiskar idag inte på ett hållbart sätt och den ryska skuggflottan fortsätter att utsätta oss och Östersjön för risker. Det här behöver framtidens havs- och fiskepolitik räkna med. Vi måste sätta stopp för att haven fyller den ryska krigskassan, vår säkerhet och våra hav är förenade.
Ett livskraftigt och säkert Östersjön är en förutsättning för ett säkert Europa. Tack.
Petras Gražulis
Gerbiama pranešėja, Lietuva ribojasi su Baltijos jūra ir ne tik, su Rusija taip pat ribojamės per Kuršių marias. Ir yra Kuršių marių dalis Rusijai priklauso, dalis Lietuvai. Taip, gerbiama pranešėja, Lietuva ribojasi su Baltijos jūra ir su Kuršių mariom kartu su Rusija. Ar jums neatrodo keista, kad remiantis Europos Sąjungos reikalavimais Lietuva uždraudė pramoninę žvejybą, o šalia Rusija tos žvejybos neuždraudė? Aš būdamas parlamento nariu negalėjau remti tokio kvailo įstatymo, nes žuvis iš Lietuvos patenka į Rusiją, Rusija gaudo, žvejoja, o Lietuva negali žvejoti tų žuvų.
Kaip vertinat šitokį, nu sakyčiau, gana kvailą sprendimą?
Jessica Polfjärd
Tack för frågan. Jag tror att vi är överens om just det här och det var det som jag också påpekade i mitt tal. Det vill säga att länderna runt Östersjön måste se till vad vi behöver göra och det kan inte utnyttjas av till exempel Ryssland. Därför så måste vi fortsätta vidta sanktioner och se till att vi inte göder den ryska krigskassan utifrån vad Östersjön kan erbjuda i form av transport och fiske. Tack.
Eric Sargiacomo
Monsieur le Commissaire, quel avenir pour la politique commune de la pêche si nous oublions le marché? Décarbonation, renouvellement des générations, adaptation au changement climatique, toutes ces ambitions resteront des promesses si nos pêcheurs sont victimes d'une concurrence déloyale. Aujourd'hui, des produits importés qui ne respectent ni nos normes environnementales, ni nos exigences sociales, parfois même issus de la pêche illégale, concurrencent ceux de nos professionnels. La concurrence régulée, oui, le dumping, non. Les solutions sont connues: renforcer les contrôles aux frontières, imposer le respect de nos normes minimales pour accéder au marché européen, mieux informer les consommateurs et promouvoir nos produits.
L'Europe ne peut pas être exigeante avec ses pêcheurs et indulgente avec leurs concurrents. Pour une filière jeune, innovante et durable, soyons enfin cohérents. Protéger notre marché, c'est aussi protéger notre avenir. Merci.
Katri Kulmuni
Arvoisa rouva puhemies, Euroopan unionin pohjoisimpana parlamentaarikko-meppinä tuon teille nyt terveiset Atlantin luonnonlohen kutujoilta. Tämä on todella kriittinen asia, nimittäin minä olen siis kasvanut tuon Euroopan suurimman lohijoen Tornionjoen varrella, enkä vähättele yhtään kalateollisuuden enkä ammattikalastajien näkökulmaa, mutta lohikannat ovat niin hälyttävällä tasolla, että jos Itämerellä lohenkalastusta ei rajoiteta, niin minun elinaikanani edessä saattaa olla todellinen ympäristöllinen katastrofi ja me näemme Atlantin luonnonlohen sukupuuton. Ja jos näin käy, niin silloin sitä kalaa ei kalasteta yhtään missään muuallakaan, ei etelämmässä, jos lohi ei pääse nousemaan pohjoisen kutujokiin. Ja siksi tämä on niin suuri kysymys, koska kysymyksessä on siis todella ympäristöllinen katastrofi, jos luonnonlohet eivät pääse nousemaan näihin pohjoisiin jokiin, jotka monista syistä on tehty patoja, on kalastettu liikaa. Ja nyt me täällä debatoimme ajasta toiseen siitä, että onko kalastettu liikaa vai liian vähän.
Me tiedämme, että kalakannat ovat romahtaneet, joten vetoan teihin Atlantin luonnonlohen puolesta. Kiitos.
Fredis Beleris
Ευχαριστώ κύριε Πρόεδρε, αξιότιμε κύριε Επίτροπε, κύριοι συνάδελφοι. Είναι ξεκάθαρο ότι η κοινή αλιευτική πολιτική είναι αναγκαία για να προστατεύσει τα ιχθυοαποθέματα και να διασφαλίσει ένα βιώσιμο μέλλον για την αλιεία. Ωστόσο, οφείλουμε να αναρωτηθούμε γιατί τόσοι πολλοί αλιείς αισθάνονται ότι αυτή η πολιτική λειτουργεί εις βάρος τους. Γιατί ο κλάδος παρακμάζει; Η προστασία του περιβάλλοντος και των ειδών προς εξαφάνιση δεν μπορεί να θεωρείται πιο σημαντική από την επιβίωση των ψαράδων μας.
Οι αυστηροί περιορισμοί σε συνδυασμό με το διαρκώς αυξανόμενο ενεργειακό κόστος και τη ραγδαία εξάπλωση των ξενικών ειδών πιέζουν ασφυκτικά τα εισοδήματά τους.
Κύριε Επίτροπε, γνωρίζετε πολύ καλά τη σημασία που έχει η αλιεία για τις παράκτιες και νησιωτικές κοινωνίες της Μεσογείου. Για πολλές από αυτές αποτελεί τη μοναδική πηγή εισοδήματος. Αν λοιπόν θέλουμε να διατηρήσουμε ζωντανές τις θάλασσές μας, πρέπει να προστατεύσουμε και τους ανθρώπους που αφιερώνουν τη ζωή τους σε αυτές. Το πραγματικό απειλούμενο είδος σήμερα είναι οι ίδιοι οι αλιείς.
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Ms Mendia for one minute please.
Idoia Mendia
Gracias presidenta, señor comisario. Los desafíos nos obligan a mirar al futuro y la política pesquera común diseñada hace más de una década necesita actualizarse. Los arrantzales vascos esperan respuestas de Europa y sin embargo hoy tenemos una política desfasada e infrafinanciada. Y no se trata de empezar de cero. La política pesquera común ha impulsado una pesca más sostenible, ha mejorado la gestión con criterios científicos y ha reforzado el control y la gobernanza internacional.
Y esto hay que preservarlo. Pero nos quedan retos: una aplicación eficaz de las normas, renovación de la flota, falta de relevo generacional y pérdida de rentabilidad de muchas comunidades costeras. Sostenibilidad y rentabilidad son dos caras de la misma moneda. La política pesquera común ha recuperado los recursos, pero ahora debe centrarse en la viabilidad económica y en el futuro de las comunidades costeras. Europa debe reconocer la pesca como sector estratégico y tiene que dotarla de recursos y reducir las cargas administrativas innecesarias.
Pero simplificar no puede significar debilitar los objetivos ambientales y sociales de la política pesquera común. Necesitamos más presupuesto, no menos, señor comisario. Gracias.
Thank you. Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr Kelleher for one minute please.
Billy Kelleher
Fairness and burden sharing should be at the heart of the common fisheries policy if we are truly to live in a European Union where we try to treat all citizens and all sectors fairly. But Commissioner there has been an unfair burden placed on the Irish fishing communities. A 23% decrease in direct gross value added and a 15% drop in numbers employed over the last number of years. We have 12% of the waters we catch less than 4% of the fish. And at the same time in the North East Atlantic Fisheries Commission, Russia, Norway, Faroe, Greenland, Iceland and the UK continue to fish in an unsustainable way.
Migratory patterns of fish species are changing dramatic due to global warming and temperature rises in seas and yet there has been no solid review of quota allocation and new quota allocation because of changing fishing patterns. For example bluefin tuna off the coast of Ireland is now very prevalent, something we wouldn't have seen 50 years ago. So Commissioner in doing the evaluation we also have to look at a review to make sure that we have sustainable fishing in all parts of the European Union, not unsustainable fishing in the North East Atlantic and undermining fishing stocks in Irish waters.
Thank you Mr Kelleher. Thank you. We're running a little bit out of time. The next speaker is Mr Obłukowicz for one minute please.
Bartosz Arłukowicz
Panie komisarzu. Pochodzę z Darłowa, to jest takie niewielkie miasteczko nad Morzem Bałtyckim. Obok mamy Dąbki, potem mamy Mielno, Dźwirzyno, Kołobrzeg, Świnoujście. To są miasteczka, miasta i wioski nad polskim morzem. I ja tam robię spotkania z ludźmi.
I na każdym z tych spotkań spotykam setki, jeśli nie tysiące byłych rybaków, ich rodzin, którzy musieli sprzedać albo zezłomować swoje kutry w ramach kwot, które narzucała Unia Europejska.
I ci ludzie pewnie nie byliby przeciw i rozumieją konieczność ekologii, ochrony środowiska, walki o kwoty ryb i tak dalej, gdyby nie to, że wzdłuż tych plaż, w tych miejscowościach powstały setki dymiących palonym olejem smażalni ryb, w których ci właściciele tych samych smażalni ryb kupują dokładnie te same ryby z tego samego morza, zamrożone od dostawców spoza Unii Europejskiej za cztery razy wyższą cenę, często pod ruską banderą. Ja jestem lekarzem, panie komisarzu, i wiem jedną rzecz, że jak człowiek sobie wmawia nieprawdę, kiedy jest chory i udaje, że się leczy, to to się musi skończyć...
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. Thank you, colleague, thank you very much. The time is gone. The next speaker is Mr. Luena for one minute, please.
César Luena
Gracias, señora presidenta. Comisario, creo que la política pesquera común debe adaptarse, pero manteniendo sus principios fundamentales, porque la Comisión concluye en su evaluación que muchos de los problemas actuales no se deben a falta de legislación, sino a una aplicación, dice, insuficiente y desigual. Un ejemplo: las áreas marinas protegidas. La legislación permite adoptar medidas de conservación, por cierto, también sobre la pesca de arrastre, pero demasiadas veces esas decisiones se bloquean o se retrasan durante años. Por eso la Ley de Restauración de la Naturaleza refuerza el procedimiento, fija plazos claros para las recomendaciones conjuntas y da a la Comisión más capacidad para actuar cuando no hay acuerdos.
Por tanto, el camino es la aplicación, más cooperación y más decisiones basadas en la ciencia. La futura Ley de Océanos debe servir para reforzar este marco, pero no para debilitarlo. Señorías, si no tenemos mares sanos, no habrá pesca sostenible ni tampoco futuro para nuestros pescadores.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr. Isaksson for one minute, please.
Sofie Eriksson
Tack för ordet. Ungefär 1,1 miljoner svenskar fiskade på sin fritid förra året. De spenderade över nio miljarder kronor på spön, fiskekort och drag, på båtar, flytvästar och guidade turer. Men sportfiske är ju större än så. Det är ett barns glädjetjut när abborren nappar för första gången.
Det är fiskevårdsföreningar som tar hand om sjöar och kärnar, det är eldsjälar som inkluderar fler, lokalsamhällen som får besökare. Det är generation på generation som lär sig om livet i vattnet. Och ändå, när EU talar om fisket så blir sportfisket nästan alltid bortglömt, osynliggjort. Det lär vi ändra på. Sportfiske borde vara en given del av den gemensamma fiskeripolitiken.
Jag tror att det skulle kunna leda till fler jobb på mindre orter, fler barn och unga som tar del av naturen och en bättre ekonomi för vårt fritidsfiske. Tack.
Thank you very much. So, dear colleagues, now we have reached catch-the-eye. I have quite a long list, but if you promise me to stick to your speaking time, I will be able to take as many as possible. And I will begin with Mr. Mato, seat 581, please.
Gabriel Mato
Gracias, presidenta. Comisario, la propia evaluación de la Comisión dibuja un panorama preocupante para la pesca europea. Reconoce la caída de los desembarques, el deterioro de la rentabilidad, el envejecimiento de la flota, la pérdida de empleo, el aumento de la dependencia de las importaciones y el deterioro de la competitividad de nuestro sector. Sin embargo, pese a todas estas constataciones, la conclusión política de la Comisión sigue siendo la misma: no hace falta reformar la política pesquera común y basta con aplicarla plenamente.
Ahí reside la principal contradicción de esta evaluación. En lugar de preguntarse si alguna de las decisiones adoptadas en 2013 deben revisarse, la Comisión vuelve a atribuir las dificultades a los Estados miembros y al propio sector. Señor Comisario, si los problemas de aplicación son persistentes y generalizados en toda la Unión, ¿no cree que quizá el problema no sea solo de aplicación, sino también el propio diseño de la política pesquera común? ¿Está la Comisión realmente dispuesta a revisar algunos de los pilares de la reforma de 2013, como la inflexible prohibición de los descartes, la aplicación rígida del rendimiento máximo sostenible o las normas sobre la capacidad pesquera?
Willemien Koning
Thank you. During a working visit to the fisheries last week, it became clear once again that the sector is struggling significantly with the landing obligation and associated camera monitoring. The fisheries do have more challenges, but the most urgent to solve is the landing obligation. In practice, the landing obligation is simply unworkable. When can we expect an opportunity to adjust this regulation?
Commissioner, can this be placed on the agenda as soon as possible?
Vytenis Povilas Andriukaitis
Gerbiamas Komisare, dėkoju už iš tiesų labai dalykiškai pristatytą bendros žuvininkystės politikos apžvalgą. Aš gerai atsimenu jūsų pirmtaką Carmen Vella, jis buvo atsakingas, iš Maltos komisaras buvo atsakingas už bendrą žuvininkystės politiką ir kėlė tuos pačius klausimus, ką dabar mano kolega Bayada kelia dėl trečiųjų šalių žvejybos problemų Viduržemio jūroje ir kitose jūrose. Visiškai suprantama, kad mes turime labai daug dėmesio skirti santykiams tarp Europos Sąjungos ir trečiųjų šalių, ar tai Baltijos jūroje, ar Viduržemio jūroje, ar kitur. Juk mes gauname importo iš žuvininkystės labai daug ir tuo pačiu trečiosios šalys labai eksploatuoja žuvų kaimenes ir iš tiesų kelia daug problemų. Ir čia turi būti labai didelis dėmesys, kad šitame tarptautiniame aspekte bendroji žuvininkystės politika Europos Sąjungos būtų dar labiau pažangesnė ir kartu tvirtesnė.
Mums reiks aktyvių veiksmų. Ačiū jums.
Juan Fernando López Aguilar
Thank you, Madam President. Comisario, de las consideraciones de esta evaluación de la política pesquera me quedo con las que hacen referencia a las regiones ultraperiféricas como Canarias, donde la pesca artesanal es una contribución no solamente a la economía o al empleo, sino sobre todo a la cultura, además de la sostenibilidad y hasta la propia soberanía alimentaria. Pero la pesca artesanal requiere respuestas que escuchen no solamente al sector, sino a las autoridades locales y regionales que tienen demandas muy fundadas en relación con la sobrecarga que supone el desembarco, las obligaciones de desembarco anticipado y sobre todo el cuaderno digital. Son obligaciones que resultan desproporcionadas para lo que representa la pesca artesanal y desde luego requieren además apoyo financiero en el próximo marco financiero plurianual. Se ha dicho con claridad y suscribo el mensaje.
Es inaceptable la fusión de la política pesquera en sobres nacionales que obligue a las regiones ultraperiféricas a competir con otras regiones ignorando su singularidad jurídica. Debe haber una dotación financiera necesaria para apoyar al sector y su sostenibilidad. Gracias, Presidenta.
Sebastian Tynkkynen
Arvoisa puhemies, vihreä suojeluaate merimetsojen ja valkoposkihanhien kohdalla on saanut suurta vahinkoa aiheuttavat mittasuhteet.
Kuvitelkaa saaristossa elävä kalastaja, joka varhain aamulla vetää verkot vesiltä vain huomatakseen, ettei saalista ole. Merimetsokannat ovat räjähtäneet käsiin ja ne nokkivat tuhoa kalakantoihin ja koko elinkeinon kannattavuuteen. Maataloudessa sen sijaan valtavat valkoposkihanhilaumat parturoivat peltoja kynittyyn kuntoon. Sekä merimetso että valkoposkihanhi ovat rauhoitettuja EU:n lintudirektiivin turvin. Molemmat ovat elinvoimaisia lajeja ja ovat vieläpä runsastuneet viime vuosina huomattavasti.
Jos EU:lta puuttuu järki, Suomen hallitukselta sitä löytyy. Suomen hallitus ajaa molempien lajien EU-suojelun alentamista. Tämä ei ole vihreä linja, tämä on tolkun linja. Kiitos.
Ciaran Mullooly
Thank you, President. Commissioner, this planned reform of common fisheries policy is not just a test for fisheries in my mind, it's a test for fairness and trust in Europe. As a result of Brexit, Irish fishermen lost quota and boats were decommissioned. And then last December, when Ireland needed help, the long-established Hague preferences, that safeguard meant to protect us in a quota crisis, was blocked by a minority group of other member states. Now we hear reports of fisheries flexibility for Iceland ahead of their referendum on the 29th of August.
Now, let's be straight, Ireland is not against Iceland. We support sustainable fishing, science and a strong North Atlantic, but do not tell Irish fishermen that rules are fixed and then go and bend them for somebody else. Any deal must be open, fair and not at Ireland's expense, Commissioner. This matter matters for all future accession. Europe cannot attract countries in with flexibility then leave existing member states frozen into unfairness.
Ana Miranda Paz
Muito obrigada. Senhor Comissário responsável da pesca e os oceanos, como eurodeputada galega, se você pergunta a um mariñeiro, a unha mariscadora do meu país, vai dicir que a PCP afundiunos. Precisamos unha reforma da PCP urxente. Mas hoxe, señor Comissário, vou falar-lhe dun tema de actualidade que no meu país está a ter moita repercusión. A moitos anos que houbo 222.000 tambores de residuos radioactivos nucleares despechados na fosa atlántica.
O Instituto Francés CNRS foi a velos á fosa atlántica e a investigar ese lixo radioactivo. Esas tambores de residuos radioactivos despechados, eu pregunto, como que esta situación pode ser considerada compatíbel con obxectivo de protexer a saúde, a sustentabilidade e a seguranza dos nosos oceanos, das zonas de pesca e das comunidades costeiras? Vai a Comissão avaliar as potenciais implicacións destas descobertas para as pescas europeias e a seguranza no mar? Muito obrigada.
Petras Gražulis
Gerbiamas komisare, čia tikrai nemažai išsakė parlamentarai problemų, kas liečia žuvininkystę. Aš jau minėjau, Lietuva ribojasi Baltijos jūroje ir Kuršių mariose su Rusija. 2023 metais Lietuva uždraudė verslinę žuvininkystę, kuo labai džiaugiasi Rusija. Dar to negana, daugeliui mūsų žvejų pareikalavo, kad jie supjaustytų laivus, žinoma, davė kompensaciją iš Europos Sąjungos. Tam reikia taip suprast logiškai, pagerinti Rusijos žvejų išteklius.
Kaip vertinate šitą politiką ir ar jūs nežadate peržiūrėti savo žuvininkystės politikos, kuri labai nenaudinga Europos Sąjungos šalims, tame tarpe ir mūsų valstybei Lietuvai?
Apie tai kalba beveik kiekvienas europarlamentaras.
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Ms. Sakorafa, seat 840, please.
Maria Zacharia
Κύριε Επίτροπε, η κλιματική αλλαγή μεταβάλλει ήδη τη θερμοκρασία και τη χημεία των θαλασσών, προκαλεί μετατόπιση των ειδών, απώλεια βιοποικιλότητας και αυξανόμενη πίεση στα παράκτια οικοσυστήματα. Παρά ταύτα, η κοινή αλιευτική πολιτική εξακολουθεί να αντιμετωπίζει τα θαλάσσια οικοσυστήματα κυρίως ως ενδιαίτημα των αλιευτικών πόρων και όχι ως κρίσιμες υποδομές για την αντιμετώπιση της κλιματικής κρίσης. Ιδιαίτερα τα οικοσυστήματα blue carbon, όπως τα λιβάδια Ποσειδωνίας, οι παράκτιοι υγρότοποι, οι εκβολές ποταμών και οι λιμνοθάλασσες, αποτελούν σημαντικές φυσικές δεξαμενές αποθήκευσης διοξειδίου του άνθρακα, συμβάλλουν στην προστασία των ακτών, στη βελτίωση της ποιότητας των υδάτων και στη διατήρηση των ιχθυοαποθεμάτων. Ωστόσο, παρά τη σημασία τους για την επίτευξη των στόχων της Ένωσης για την κλιματική ουδετερότητα, η προστασία και αποκατάστασή τους εξακολουθούν να είναι ανεπαρκείς, ιδίως στην Ελλάδα. Η αξιολόγηση της κοινής αλιευτικής πολιτικής αποτελεί συνεπώς ευκαιρία να ενισχυθεί...
Thank you. Thank you very much. And the next speaker will be Ms. Adamowicz, seat 270, please.
Nina Carberry
Pani Przewodnicząca, Panie Komisarzu. Rozmawiamy dziś o ewaluacji wspólnej polityki rybołówstwa, ale na Bałtyku nie ma już czego ewaluować. Bałtyk umiera. Przez lata dzieliliśmy kwoty połowowe, łudząc się, że odbuduje stada dorsza i śledzia. Ale ryb jak nie było, tak nie ma, bo ignorujemy prawdziwe przyczyny katastrofy: martwe strefy, brak tlenu, zanieczyszczenia chemiczne i rolnicze spływające do morza.
Polscy rybacy tracą dorobek życia nie z własnej winy. Dlatego wzywam Komisję do konkretnych działań. Po pierwsze, elastycznego wsparcia z funduszu morskiego na rekompensaty i przekwalifikowanie. Po drugie, faktycznego podejścia ekosystemowego. Zamiast dobijać rybaków restrykcjami, zacznijmy ratować morze przed uduszeniem.
Zostawienie Bałtyku samemu sobie to nie polityka. To jest wyrok na całe wybrzeże.
Thank you very much. And the last speaker in the catch-the-eye is Mr. Mularczyk, seat 590, please.
Magdalena Adamowicz
Pani Komisarzu, jestem tu kolejnym mówcą, który zwraca uwagę na absolutnie tragiczną sytuację polskiego rybołówstwa na Bałtyku. Znajduje się ono w gigantycznym kryzysie. W samym tylko 2025 roku liczba jednostek połowowych spadła o 5%. Limity, które są narzucane Polsce, restrykcje, regulacje, to wszystko dobija polskie rybołówstwo. Rybacy, którzy tracą dorobek swojego życia, trafiają do urzędów pośrednictwa pracy.
Czy tak ma wyglądać polityka Unii Europejskiej wobec tego ważnego sektora?
Arkadiusz Mularczyk
Rybacy, którzy tracą dorobek swojego życia, trafiają do urzędów pośrednictwa pracy. Czy tak ma wyglądać polityka Unii Europejskiej wobec tego ważnego sektora? Z drugiej strony do Unii Europejskiej wpływają importowane ryby spoza Unii Europejskiej i turyści na polskim wybrzeżu jedzą nie polskie ryby z Bałtyku, ale jedzą importowane mrożone ryby spoza Unii Europejskiej. Czy tak ma wyglądać polityka Unii Europejskiej? Jaka jest strategia Komisji Europejskiej, ażeby uratować polskie rybołówstwo na Bałtyku?
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much, and I will now give the floor back to the Commission and Commissioner Kyriakides to close the debate, please.
Costas Kadis
Thank you, Madam Chair. Honorable members, I have listened very carefully your remarks. And let me recall that this is the first time since the 2013 reform that the CFP regulation is evaluated with such comprehensive data and trends. Based on this diagnosis, but also on your views and the positions of the member states and all stakeholders, we will take political decisions as to the follow-up, including on whether addressing the challenges and shortcomings identified in the evaluation require any legislative changes and to which extent. Issues you raised, such as the need for modernization and decarbonization of the fishing fleet, generational renewal, securing a level playing field for our sector, simplification, fair treatment and further support to the small-scale fishers, the consideration of socioeconomic elements in the scientific advice that we receive for developing our proposals for fishing opportunities, and better implementation and enforcement of our legal framework will be in the center of our attention.
On the landing obligation, the evaluation shows that it did not deliver the expected results for several reasons. In particular, there was a low uptake and buy-in at industry level. However, it is clear that we cannot go back to the old situation of massive and unreported discarding, and our sector agrees on that principle. And that is why I have invited the representatives of the sector to discuss their and our ideas on how we can address this challenge. It is important the measures that we will develop to be applicable and well-received by those who will implement them at the end of the day.
Having all this in mind, I will consider making a proposal to the College of Commissioners for a targeted amendment of the CFP regulation, subject to the Commission's better regulation procedures.
Combating IUU fishing is one of our top priorities. We are proud of the first ever digital certification system, IT Catch, which has been operational for six months and secures that no product stemming from IUU fishing enters the European Union market. IT Catch has already proven a success thanks to real-time EU-wide data. We are also strengthening the legal and governance frameworks for fighting IUU fishing through bilateral agreements and our participation in regional fisheries management organizations. Honorable members, the findings of the evaluation will also feed the Commission's Vision 2040 for fisheries and aquaculture, which will include the external action strategy and the energy transition roadmap in the early autumn.
Parallel to this work, we are proceeding with our simplification initiatives, listening also to your calls, and particularly the simplification of the multiannual fisheries management plans. We want to make them easier to implement and to address the challenges identified so far, and the European Maritime Fisheries and Aquaculture Fund regulation to align it with the new WTO agreement on fisheries subsidies and to simplify its implementation. Honorable members, I assure you that your feedback is highly respected and will be taken into account in the development and implementation of these policy initiatives. Thank you very much for your attention.
Christel Schaldemose
Also a big thanks to you, Commissioner. The debate is closed and the vote will be held at the next part-session. So the next item on the agenda is the report by Mr. Oude, feasibility of the 28th tax regime and its potential to support EU competitiveness. I would like to remind speakers that given the test measures currently in place and the fixed end time of debate, a strict observance to speaking time will be required for all of you. Thank you very much for your understanding.
And I will immediately give the floor to the rapporteur. Please, Mr. Oude.
Ľudovít Ódor
Thank you. Dear President, Commissioner, colleagues, Europe is facing a new geopolitical and economic reality. Rules matter less than they once did. Power and scale matter more. In this context, our single market remains one of the most underutilized assets at our disposal.
The European Union is clearly punching below its weight. We are failing to fully leverage the strength that comes with providing access to a market of 450 million consumers. The evidence is striking. Among the world's 50 largest companies by market capitalization, only one is European. In 2025, Europe had just 331 unicorns compared with almost 2,000 in the United States.
Since 2008, nearly 30% of European unicorns have relocated their headquarters outside the EU. Venture capital investment in Europe amounts to around 30 billion euros compared with 177 billion in the United States.
The million dollar question is why. The answer from my perspective is twofold. First, the EU lacks sufficient high-risk investments due to the absence of a genuine savings and investment union. Second, even in areas requiring lower risk investment, we underperform because of fragmentation. What are the main obstacles to cross-border growth?
When we ask SMEs, startups, and scale-ups, they consistently identify three major challenges. First, navigating different business environment across member states. Second, the complexity of accessing information, understanding rules, and complying with administrative procedures. And third, taxation. I welcome the Commission's proposal for an EU Inc.
It really represents an important first step towards creating a genuine single market for startups and scale-ups. Its objective is to enable companies to operate seamlessly across borders without unnecessary barriers. However, the proposal is not ambitious enough as it focuses primarily on corporate law. This presents two shortcomings. First, without addressing the entire life cycle of a company, its impact will inevitably remain limited.
Second, the proposal should draw more extensively on successful international best practices. In our report, we advocate a modular approach that builds on the corporate law framework as its foundation. At the same time, to ensure political feasibility, the tax module should initially apply only to a limited group of companies such as growth-oriented startups and scale-ups. These companies usually generate only a marginal share of overall tax revenues. I would like to highlight a few points from the report.
First, we propose a framework based on a fully digital procedures, one-stop shops, harmonized templates. Second, we call for a single consolidated corporate tax base and a uniform methodology for determining taxable income. Third, we propose effective measures to eliminate double taxation. Fourth, we support the creation of a centralized VAT framework. Fifth, we recommend introducing a mandatory employee stock option.
Sixth, we call for targeted rules to provide tax certainty for employees moving between member states. And finally, we encourage better coordination of tax incentives across the Union. Thank you very much.
Thank you very much. And I will now give the floor to the Commission and Commissioner Šuica, please, the floor is yours.
Dubravka Šuica
Thank you, Chair, honorable members. In March this year, the Commission adopted the proposal for the 28th regime corporate legal framework, the so-called EU Inc. The EU Inc initiative is a key measure aimed at enhancing Europe's competitiveness and improving the business environment for EU companies. As part of the broader instrument, it includes limited ancillary tax measures designed to support businesses. As you know, the EU Inc proposal is based on five main pillars.
First, digital by default procedures throughout the life cycle of EU Inc companies. Second, extension of once and only principle for provision of information. Third, facilitation of investment. Fourth, support of the attraction and retention of talent. And fifth, access to digital and simplified insolvency procedures for innovative startups.
I'm pleased to address you today at the occasion of the debate of the own-initiative, which is of course a different subject entirely. We thank the European Parliament, in particular MEP Ludovít Ódor and his team for important work.
We are pleased to see that the report welcomes the Commission proposal on EU Inc. The message we received from stakeholders was clear. Companies need EU-wide rules that are harmonized and simple. Companies also pointed to the need for more digital processes in Europe. The EU Inc proposal responds to these needs.
It provides for an ambitious harmonized corporate legal framework which will be available in each Member State for both founders and existing companies. From a tax perspective, the proposal already includes two concrete but strictly ancillary measures. First, the application of the once-only principle to reduce the administrative burden on EU Inc companies. This means that in the registration process, the EU Inc information submitted to the business register will be automatically shared with tax authorities in view of obtaining the tax identification number, TIN, and the VAT identification number. There will be no need for EU Inc company to resubmit paperwork multiple times.
And the second one, a tax deferral for employees stock options to support the ability of the EU Inc to attract and retain talent. This means that employees investing in an EU Inc through an EU employee stock option plan will benefit from a simple scheme with a harmonized set of characteristics. From the tax perspective, it also means that employees to whom warrants under the stock option plan are issued won't be taxed until the actual sale of the underlying shares. The tax elements in the EU Inc proposal strike exactly the right balance. They deliver highly targeted and practical measures that support our broader objective by enabling businesses to reap the full benefit of the single market while respecting Member States' competencies in tax matters.
The own-initiative report highlights the room for simplification. We agree with that. We also concur that there is room for additional and more targeted harmonization, as you rightly said, of tax matters to improve the business environment in the single market, so we can improve this. Thank you.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. And we will now take the round of speakers on behalf of the political groups, beginning with Mr. Niedermayer for two minutes on behalf of EPP.
Luděk Niedermayer
Thank you very much, Madam Chair. The Commission proposal for creation of 28th regime is one of the most visible, important and possibly impactful proposals that we have got on the table in this term. It would make single market much stronger and it will provide startups and scale-ups with the better framework how to keep their activity within the EU. Because this is very substantial problem. We have in Europe excellent education, we are rich in ideas and innovations, we have entrepreneurship, but unfortunately most of the companies when they are starting to take off and are on the way to the success, they are leaving our market.
Commission proposal that is now discussed in the JURI is first step towards creation such a regime. Digitalization is very, very good because this will provide companies with simplified environment and key component is the clarity in the regime of employees' shares. This is very good proposal and I just call our House and the Council to not water it down, make it stronger and pass it quickly. But this is far not enough for the especially scale-ups to stay in the Europe. Better tax regime that will simplify life especially for the companies operating across the across more Member States, the clarity of the taxation, avoidance of the double taxation, good regime for R&D expenditures and many other other aspects are very important for they being able to stay at our market.
So that's why we are asked today the House to vote for the proposal that will allow all of this. We opt for CCCTB to simplify the life of the companies operating across the market.
We call for reducing the risk of double taxation, create uncertainty and deal with the expenditures. This is the way how to create genuine market for successful startups in Europe, to allow them to flourish but also allow European investors to invest safely in these companies and not to go abroad. I hope we will we will succeed in that and I hope Commission will come with more modules that will make this regime more usable and richer. Thank you.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much and the next speaker is Mr. Gonçalves for two minutes on behalf of S&D please.
Bruno Gonçalves
Thank you President. Caros colegas, vivemos um momento histórico e como nos avisou Mario Draghi, a União Europeia avança para uma nova era de competitividade ou arriscamos a ficar definitivamente para trás. E é para isso que hoje desafiamos 27 Estados-Membros que representam 450 milhões de pessoas, mas também 450 milhões de consumidores. Este é o primeiro sinal para que as startups, pequenas e médias empresas que na Europa queiram crescer, possam inovar e possam criar emprego. Em vez de 27 regimes burocráticos, defendemos uma criação de uma via alternativa que permita operar imediatamente em todos os países de uma forma ágil e de uma forma rápida.
Esta é a hora de acabar com os egoísmos nacionais que impedem um sistema de impostos menos complexo, mas inevitavelmente também mais eficaz. Com menos papelada, mas também com menos evasão fiscal. Este vigésimo oitavo regime não serve para contornar as regras e por isso deixamos claro que se mantêm vivas as proteções sociais, nomeadamente as laborais para o trabalhador e que se evitam esquemas de planeamento fiscal. Não será o dumping social, nem o dumping fiscal, nem a capacidade para preencher papelada que podem definir quais são as empresas mais competitivas na União Europeia. Para que as startups e empresas pequenas familiares possam competir com as mais poderosas, nós precisamos de lhes oferecer formas de atrair talento e de reter os mais brilhantes.
Foi aliás para isso que aceitámos, que concordámos e que negociámos uma modernização do rendimento do trabalho, admitindo que as stock options dos trabalhadores não sofram uma penalização face aos investidores que compram e vendem ações. Esta é sim defender trabalhadores, defender os mais jovens, mas esta é sim também uma nova agenda trabalhista para os mais jovens. Este incentivo é um caso específico e isolado, mas que nos deve motivar a uma reflexão mais abrangente. Que sentido faz taxar mais um trabalhador que decidiu apostar em si e numa startup promissora do que um especulador que apenas compra e vende ações? A resposta é muito simples: não faz sentido nenhum.
O momento e o desejo é que a Comissão e o Conselho possam trabalhar neste grande desafio e que possamos pensar no grande desafio que é o desafio comum. Muito obrigado.
Enikő Győri
Thank you very much and the next speaker is Ms. Gulyás on behalf of PfE for two minutes please.
Tisztelt képviselőtársaim, az adópolitika nem véletlenül tartozik tagállami hatáskörbe. A szerződések egyértelműen tiszteletben tartják a nemzeti fiskális szuverenitást, a tagállamok eltérő gazdasági adottságait és a tisztességes versenyt. A Parlament nagykoalíciója a baloldaltól a Néppártig mégis újabb és újabb kísérleteket tesz ennek a hatáskörnek a kiüresítésére. Ez a jelentés valójában nem a versenyképességről szól. Ez a tagállami adópolitika lassú felszámolásának mesterterve.
Ez egyértelműen szembemegy a szerződésekkel és az egyhangúság elvével, ami éppen a tagállamok szuverén adópolitikájának megőrzését szolgálja. A tagállamok közötti adóverseny nem probléma, hanem erősség. Arra ösztönzi a kormányokat, hogy hatékonyabb államot működtessenek, vonzóbb üzleti környezettel és felelős gazdálkodással, hogy Európában tartsák az európai cégeket. A gondot ma nem az eltérő társasági adórendszerek okozzák, hanem a magas energiaárak és a még mindig növekvő bürokrácia. Ezekre kellene választ adni, nem pedig újabb hatásköröket elkobozni a tagállamoktól.
Ráadásul a jelentés ideológiai alapon alakítaná az adókedvezmények rendszerét. Azokat politikailag preferált zöld beruházásokhoz kötné, miközben háttérbe szorítanák számos hagyományos, ma is versenyképes európai iparág fejlesztését. Az adópolitika feladata nem az ideológiai célok jutalmazása, hanem a beruházások ösztönzése, a munkahelyteremtés és a vállalkozások erősítése. Mi patrióták olyan Európát akarunk, amely megőrzi a tagállamok adóügyi szuverenitását, és a gazdasági versenyt nem központosítással, hanem szabadsággal erősíti. Nem egy olyan Európát, ahol a brüsszeli intézmények saját hatalmuk gyarapításával vannak folyamatosan elfoglalva.
Köszönöm.
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr. Crosetto for one minute on behalf of ECR. Please.
Giovanni Crosetto
Grazie, Presidente. I temi di semplificazione e armonizzazione fiscale sono fondamentali quando parliamo della competitività delle nostre imprese. Ad esempio, in Italia abbiamo appena recepito la Global Minimum Tax per portare il principio dell'armonizzazione fiscale in tema di imposta sulle società. Concordiamo, ad esempio, col fatto che potrebbero essere proprio le startup il target giusto di questa iniziativa, visto il grande gap che dobbiamo colmare in tema di investimenti per cercare di trasformare le startup in scale-up. Non concordiamo però sul fatto che ci sia la necessità di passare al voto a maggioranza qualificata perché se queste proposte vengono fatte veramente nell'interesse delle imprese, siamo certi che l'unanimità degli Stati membri ne sarà d'accordo.
Grazie.
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr. Boyer for one minute on behalf of Renew Group, please.
Gilles Boyer
Merci, Madame la Présidente, Madame la Commissaire, Monsieur le rapporteur Hodór. Ce texte est un texte fondateur, important pour permettre à nos PME, à nos entreprises de taille intermédiaire et aux acteurs innovants d'opérer pleinement à l'échelle du marché unique en limitant les formalités administratives et les freins au développement à l'intérieur de l'Union européenne. Toutes les entreprises qui souhaitent avoir une activité dans plusieurs pays de l'Union européenne doivent pouvoir le faire sans entrave en facilitant l'accès aux capitaux, en offrant un environnement plus prévisible. Ce texte franchit une étape essentielle. Évidemment, la fragmentation de nos systèmes fiscaux demeure un frein important, en particulier pour les activités transfrontières.
Ce texte n'est donc qu'une première étape. Des réformes complémentaires seront nécessaires qui ouvriront la voie, je l'espère, nous l'espérons, nous sommes nombreux à l'espérer ici, vers une harmonisation fiscale indispensable au développement de nos marchés. Je vous remercie.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. The next speaker is Kira Peter-Hansen, in two minutes, on behalf of the Greens group. Vær så god.
Kira Marie Peter-Hansen
Tusind tak, and thank you very much first of all to the rapporteur of this file. Europe needs companies that can grow, innovate, and compete across borders. And for too many startups and scale-ups, the single market still feels too fragmented, too complicated, and too slow. To counteract this, I think we all agree that we must ensure harmonization of the single market. But in the pursuit of harmonization, it's very important that it doesn't become deregulation.
Because when we create a new European tax framework, it must not become a shortcut for companies looking to avoid their responsibilities. It must not become another loophole in a system that is already too easy to exploit for those with the best lawyers and the best accountants. That is why we from the Greens emphasized and clear safeguards, because a 28th tax regime should support real economic activity, not artificial structures. It should help European startups and scale-ups, not large corporations shopping for the lowest obligations. And it should go hand in hand with workers' rights, social protection, and upward convergence.
Because Europe's competitiveness cannot be built on tax avoidance, weaker standards, or race to the bottom. It must be built on fairness and transparency. And that is the balance that we've worked for in this report, and that is the balance that Europe needs. And I would like to thank the rapporteur again for the good cooperation, and I hope a broad majority will support this today in the plenary. Thank you.
Tusind tak. The next speaker is Mr. Sarvamaa for one and a half minute on behalf of the Left group. Please.
Jussi Saramo
Kiitos, arvoisa puheenjohtaja. Niiden, jotka hyötyvät meidän järjestelmästä eniten, pitäisi myös osallistua eniten sen rahoittamiseen. Mutta suurimmat yhtiöt sekä niiden rikkaimmat omistajat maksavat veroja vähiten. Tämä ei ole luonnonlaki, tämä on seurausta poliittisista päätöksistä. Verotus on rakennettu täyteen porsaanreikiä.
Mutta on kyllä todellinen ongelma, että meillä on yksi markkina, mutta 27 verojärjestelmää, jokaisella maalla omansa. Suurimmat yritykset käyttävät tätä hajanaisuutta hyväkseen veroja vältelläkseen. Se on ongelma hyvinvointivaltioiden rahoitukselle, mutta myös pienemmille yrityksille, joilla ei ole resursseja verobyrokratiaan. Mutta auttaako se, että teemme vielä yhden, 28. verojärjestelmän lisäksi? Järkevämpää olisi yhtenäistää tekniset järjestelmät, jolloin kasvuyritys voisi ilman byrokratiaa hoitaa veronsa yhdellä luukulla.
Jäsenvaltiot voisivat jatkossakin päättää verotuksen tasosta, kunhan eivät alita OECD:n vähimmäistasoja, toivottavasti tulevaisuudessa YK:n vähimmäistasoja, jotka olisivat nykyisiä korkeampia. Mutta mikäli 28. verojärjestelmä rakennetaan, sen ainoa tavoite pitää olla yritysten kasvun helpottaminen jäsenvaltioiden rajojen ylitse. Verotuksen vähentämiseen tähtäävää järjestelyä me emme vasemmistossa hyväksy. Äänestän nyt käsittelyssä olevan mietinnön puolesta, koska se tunnistaa vaarat ja vaatii komissiolta vastuullisuutta, ja myös minä haluan kiittää raportööriä ja vararaportööriä erittäin hyvästä rakentavasta yhteistyöstä. Kiitos.
Thank you very much. So during the next speaker will be the last chance to register for catch-the-eye. We are under a certain time pressure, so I will make sure that you have a chance to register, but then we will close it. And the next speaker is Mr. Navarrette Rojas for one and a half minute, please.
Fernando Navarrete Rojas
Thank you, Chair, Commissioner. A 28th tax regime for startups and scale-ups has the potential to help these companies have better funding options and have access to larger market to expand and innovate. This can help Europe move away from the medium technology trap that is currently keeping EU's economy behind. To keep up globally, we need far more disruption and innovation in our economy.
That is how a prosperous future for all is built. That is why I want to encourage the Commission to act with ambition, to use this new single market integrating tool to the fullest, expanding its application to the largest possible scope of firms and topical areas. This is a testbed for what this new tool can deliver to culminate a common market that IMF data is showing that is far away from completion. And let me close with a new potential disruptive application of the 28th regime, namely bringing with legal certainty the full potential of DLT technology and tokenization to the very core of our financial system to reduce cost and increase scale and speed. This is an area where Europe could get a double dividend: firstly, new financial markets that would be pan-European from the start, avoiding current fragmentation, and secondly, a first-moving advantage that could attract global liquidity.
Commissioner, the name of the game is ambition. Act here, and thank you very much.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much, and the next speaker is Mr. Fernández for one and a half minute, please.
Jonás Fernández
Buenos días, gracias presidenta, Comisión. Esta legislatura hemos centrado uno de los grandes debates, al menos en el ámbito económico, en el objetivo de mejorar la competitividad de la economía europea. Y en estos dos años de legislatura hemos discutido distintas iniciativas para intentar simplificar, adaptar, mejorar los marcos normativos, pero realmente hemos sido poco ambiciosos en afrontar el reto central para elevar la competitividad de verdad, que es acabar con la fragmentación del mercado único. Resulta difícil de entender que los europeos nos hubiéramos podido poner de acuerdo en tener una política monetaria compartida y que años y años y años hayamos sido incapaces de ponernos de acuerdo en tener una política tributaria o una política fiscal que acompañe el desarrollo de ese mercado único y que ayude también a remover barreras nacionales. En este sentido, la iniciativa para tener un régimen 28 que en este Parlamento está liderando mi colega René Repasi es central, central para acabar con esas barreras nacionales, para ofrecer a las empresas, a los trabajadores un espacio en el que crecer, en el que ofrecer servicios y bienes a lo largo del mercado único.
Y este informe, este informe que quiero felicitar al ponente abordando la materia tributaria, afronta una nueva óptica, una nueva aportación a una discusión, como digo, central. Si queremos elevar la competitividad de la economía europea, consolidar el mercado único es la vía imprescindible. Muchas gracias.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much, and the next speaker is Mr. Pempie for one and a half minute, please.
Pierre Pimpie
Chers collègues, je ne réfute pas les effets de la fragmentation du marché au sein de l'UE sur la compétitivité des entreprises. Mais l'UE ne doit pas se saisir de toute faille, de tout prétexte pour faire avancer son agenda et défier le principe de souveraineté fiscale et sociale des États. C'est l'UE qui sape la compétitivité des entreprises par ses politiques énergétiques.
C'est elle qui déstabilise les régimes sociaux par ses injonctions migratoires. C'est elle qui fabrique l'essentiel des normes qui sclérosent l'activité. C'est donc elle qui doit consentir à l'effort de simplification sans que cela revienne à bafouer les États via le 28ème régime. Ce qui est présenté comme facultatif pourrait devenir le cheval de Troie d'une Europe fiscale et sociale à marche forcée. Nous ne voulons pas que l'UE fournisse de fausses solutions aux problèmes qu'elle a créés.
L'UE incarne cet aphorisme selon lequel l'enfer est pavé de bonnes intentions. Or nous voulons que l'Europe se libère. Je vous remercie.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you and the next speaker is Ms. Maląg for one minute, please.
Marlena Maląg
Szanowni Państwo, miało być uproszczenie dla firm. Co mamy? Federalistyczne zapędy. Pod hasłami konkurencyjności i ułatwiania próbuje się odebrać państwom jedną z ich najważniejszych prerogatyw: politykę podatkową. Po co?
Aby zawłaszczyć dochody podatkowe, uczynić z nich zasoby własne Unii, uniezależnić Komisję od składek państw członkowskich i stworzyć jeden ogromny unijny budżet. Budżet, z którego Bruksela będzie arbitralnie pod coraz większą liczbą warunków dzielić środki. To nie ma nic wspólnego z suwerennością państw i kompetencjami zawartymi w traktatach. Bruksela idzie krok po kroku. Przypomnę: harmonizacja VAT, współpraca administracyjna, podatki dużych przedsiębiorstw, podatki od nadzwyczajnych zysków.
To nic innego jak centralizacja i budowanie pozycji Brukseli jako superpaństwa. Nie ma i nie będzie na to naszej zgody. Nie ma zgody na unię fiskalną. Nie ma zgody na odbieranie państwom ich traktatowych kompetencji. Nie pozwolimy budować federalnej republiki Europy tylnymi drzwiami.
Dziękuję bardzo.
Thank you and the next speaker is Ms. Vasconcelos for one minute, please.
Ana Vasconcelos
Thank you, President, Commissioner and colleagues. The EU's single market is bigger than the US's, with roughly 100 million more consumers. Yet our businesses struggle to grow because the market is really a patchwork of 27 fragmented legal systems that suffocate any small business that attempts to navigate it. We often boast about having more startups than the US, yet one in three of them move abroad, mainly to America, just to have a chance to grow. The 28th regime is one of the most urgent steps to fix this.
An optional European framework that businesses are free to choose, quick, simplified, fully digital registration, automatically valid in every member state with common rules for incorporation, insolvency and labor. On tax, it generally takes the right approach: harmonizing procedures while leaving tax decisions to member states. As we advance, the fiscal autonomy of member states, it is crucial that it remains respected. This is one very important step for our competitiveness. Let's deliver it urgently and ambitiously.
Thank you. Yeah, colleague, thank you very much. In general, please, dear colleagues, I know it's difficult, but we have a vote at 12 o'clock and we have a long speakers list. The next speaker is Mr. Sinkevičius for one minute, please.
Virginijus Sinkevičius
Dėkoju, gerbiami kolegos, Europai netrūksta gabių žmonių, netrūksta įspūdingų įmonių ir sėkmės istorijų. Vien Lietuvoje mes turime ne vieną jų, ar tai būtų Nord Security, ar Vinted, ar PVH Vertical. Kiekviena jų yra sėkmės istorija.
Tačiau joms augti, joms reikėjo šokinėti per skirtingus barjerus. Na negali būti mūsų vieninga rinka, kas yra mūsų didžiausias pasiekimas, fragmentuota ir kaskart norint augti ir plėstis, tu sutinki skirtingus 27 režimus. Todėl ši diskusija yra labai reikalinga, bet ji turi vesti į realius praktinius žingsnius. Pirmiausia pradėkime ne nuo kalbos apie mokesčius, bet nuo vieno skaitmeninio langelio įmonių registracijai. Tuomet tas pats langelis be jokios abejonės gali būti panaudotas ir tiem patiem mokesčiam deklaruoti ir aišku vienas aiškus režimas dėl pridėtinės vertės mokesčio.
Jokio procedūrų dubliavimo tarp šalių narių būti negali. Ir be jokios abejonės, kad aiškios taisyklės dėl talentų. Jų nėra daug, todėl įmonės turi turėti laisvę jais dalintis.
Marc Botenga
Je pense que nous ne pouvons pas séparer les deux propositions du soi-disant 28ème régime ou Europe Inc. Et alors il faut regarder les problèmes concrets auxquels nous faisons en matière de fiscalité face aujourd'hui. Un premier, c'est évidemment l'évitement et l'évasion fiscale qui aujourd'hui, selon des estimations conservatrices, peut arriver jusqu'à 200 milliards d'euros au niveau européen. Deuxième problème, c'est que évidemment cela se passe souvent à travers des sociétés écrans, à travers des sociétés boîtes aux lettres et autres petites techniques fourberies fiscales. Or la question c'est est-ce qu'aujourd'hui nous allons avoir une proposition qui va nous permettre de tacler cela, de tacler ce manque à gagner pour l'État et donc le manque de budget pour investir dans nos infrastructures et ce sont ces infrastructures-là qui permettront d'avoir une industrie, d'avoir de l'innovation pour justement une Europe que vous appelez compétitivité dans vos dogmes.
Ou est-ce qu'on va faire le contraire et détruire davantage, offrir davantage de portes arrières fiscales aux entreprises qui créeront des petites entreprises pour éviter les règles.
Lefteris Nikolaou-Alavanos
Το λεγόμενο 28ο καθεστώς ανεβάζει επίπεδο στην ενίσχυση της κερδοφορίας των ομίλων. Μέσω ενός ενιαίου πλαισίου σε επίπεδο Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης και προβλέποντας απλοποίηση διαδικασιών, απελευθερώνει τη διασυνοριακή δράση των ευρωπαϊκών μονοπωλίων, ώστε να προσελκύσει επενδύσεις συγκεντρώνοντας κεφάλαια απέναντι στους ανταγωνιστές από την Κίνα και τις ΗΠΑ. Με τη φορολογική ενότητα προμηνύει νέες ελαφρύνσεις για το κεφάλαιο που στην Ελλάδα κατοχυρώνονται ακόμη και συνταγματικά, νέα δώρα στους ομίλους, οι οποίοι συγκεντρώνουν κέρδη ρεκόρ σε βάρος του εργατικού λαϊκού εισοδήματος και προϋπολογίζουν πάνω από ένα εκατομμύριο απολύσεις. Προαπαιτούμενο είναι τα δικαιώματα των εργαζομένων να συμπιεστούν στα όρια των δημοσιονομικών αντοχών των κοστολογημένων προγραμμάτων, αφού η Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση απαιτεί κυνικά τη σύνδεση των μισθών με την κερδοφορία των επιχειρήσεων. Το σχέδιο είναι κατά παραγγελία της έκθεσης Ντράγκι που χαιρέτισαν η Νέα Δημοκρατία, ο Τσίπρας, το ΠΑΣΟΚ και τα υπόλοιπα αστικά κόμματα στην Ελλάδα.
Ο εργαζόμενος λαός πρέπει να γυρίσει την πλάτη, να επιλέξει τον οργανωμένο αγώνα για τις δικές του σύγχρονες ανάγκες κόντρα στην Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση των μονοπωλίων και τις κυβερνήσεις τους.
Lídia Pereira
Muito obrigada, senhora presidente. Hoje uma empresa europeia que queira crescer no espaço europeu não encontra apenas um mercado. Encontra 27. É confrontada com dezenas de formas societárias diferentes, sistemas fiscais e legais distintos.
Caros colegas, na semana passada promovi neste Parlamento a Startup Scaleup Summit do PPE. Recebemos fundadores, gestores e investidores para debater os bloqueios ao crescimento das empresas europeias. A conclusão foi clara: falta-nos um mercado que seja verdadeiramente único. A EU Inc, o 28th regime, o vigésimo oitavo regime, vem resolver uma parte deste problema, mas tem de ser encarada apenas como o primeiro passo. Também precisamos de intervir na fiscalidade e melhorar as condições de acesso ao capital.
Os dados mostram-nos que cerca de 82% das startups que conseguem escalar acabam por se mudar para os Estados Unidos à procura de financiamento. E é por isso que este relatório é ambicioso, mas necessário. E é também por isso que peço à Comissão e ao Conselho, que infelizmente não está aqui neste debate, empenho e celeridade para que seja possível fechar um acordo nesta matéria até ao final do ano. Porque se continuarmos a adiar, não é a competitividade que vai esperar por nós. São os europeus que vão ficar para trás.
Muito obrigada.
Matthias Ecke
Vielen Dank, Frau Präsidentin, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen. Ein lokales Startup zahlt seine Steuern dort, wo es wirtschaftlich tätig ist, aber ein globaler Konzern kann seine Gewinne oft dahin verlagern, wo es steuerlich am günstigsten ist. Und das ist ein Ungleichgewicht, was wir natürlich mit dem 28. Regime nicht verstärken wollen. Deswegen ist unsere Haltung klar: Ja zum 28. Regime für mehr Wettbewerbsfähigkeit, um den Binnenmarkt zu vertiefen, um so innovative Unternehmen hier in Europa zu halten und zu stärken. Aber nein zum Steuerdumping durch die Hintertür.
Wir wollen keine neuen Schlupflöcher, keine Umgehung verbindlicher Schutzstandards und keine Aushöhlung unserer Steuerbasis. Wir wollen Harmonisierung, eine einheitliche Steuerbemessungsgrundlage und auch wirksamere Maßnahmen gegen Steuervermeidung. Und deswegen ist es auch gut, dass der Bericht fordert, den Übergang zu qualifizierten Mehrheitsentscheidungen in Teilen der internationalen Steuerpolitik zu prüfen, denn das ist genau die institutionelle Weiterentwicklung, die wir brauchen. Vielen Dank.
Angéline Furet
Notre continent décroche. Face à la concurrence déloyale de la Chine et des États-Unis, notre industrie recule et nos entreprises étouffent sous le poids de vos normes. Face à ce déclin économique, que propose ce rapport ? Une énième trouvaille bureaucratique, la création d'un 28ème régime fiscal. On nous vend un cadre soi-disant optionnel pour simplifier la vie de nos entreprises transfrontalières, mais personne n'est dupe.
Ce 28ème régime est un cheval de Troie. Siégeant en commission des budgets, je connais parfaitement votre stratégie. Derrière ce jargon technique se cache votre obsession fédéraliste de toujours : contourner les États membres, détruire notre souveraineté fiscale et poser la première pierre d'un grand impôt européen direct. Au lieu d'alléger le fardeau qui écrase nos PME, vous ajoutez une 28ème usine à gaz. C'est le mal bruxellois par excellence : répondre à une crise provoquée par la technocratie en inventant encore plus de technocratie.
Au lieu d'alléger encore ce fardeau, la vraie compétitivité ne se décrète pas avec des montages fédéraux.
Face à ce désastre, nous exigeons une rupture claire. Si vous voulez vraiment sauver nos emplois, instaurez la préférence européenne stricte. Au lieu d'inventer de nouveaux impôts, protégez nos industries face au dumping asiatique. Au lieu de punir nos entreprises avec vos diktats verts, rendez à nos nations leur liberté économique. Le droit de lever l'impôt est le cœur battant de notre souveraineté.
Jamais nous ne vous laisserons nous le voler.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much, and the next speaker is Mr. Peltier for one minute, please.
Guillaume Peltier
Contre vos bouffonneries socialistes de l'impôt, je choisis la poésie. Une abeille au lever de l'aurore visitait mille fleurs, le pollen devenait trésor, le miel coulait, la ruche entière, ouvrières et reines, vivaient d'un ordre exemplaire. Parut un frelon, ventre rond, venu de Bruxelles ou de Paris, escorté de mille bourdons. Ton miel est beau, je te prélève un impôt sur la cire, la dîme sur ta sève, une taxe sur ta ruche, un péage sur le soleil, l'octroi pour tes ailes, la redevance pour ton sommeil. L'abeille, lasse du scandale, à quoi bon tant d'œuvre loyale si mon travail nourrit surtout celui qui ne produit aucun sou.
Clemenceau l'avait dit, la France est un pays fertile, on y plante des fonctionnaires, agélastes et serviles, il y pousse des impôts chaque jour inventés par des sots. Heureusement, on hasarde de perdre en voulant trop taxer, et tel est toujours pris celui qui croyait prendre sans travailler. Vous êtes mille percepteurs, nous sommes des millions de producteurs, plus petits mais plus nombreux, nous chasserons les frelons car voici l'heure de la contre-révolution.
Thank you. Næste taler er hr. Peter Kofod for et minut, værsgo.
Per Clausen
Tak for det. Det lyder godt, når vi taler om bedre adgang til kapital, bedre konkurrenceevne og klare og letforståelige regler. Alt det lyder godt. Men vi må huske på, at det også handler om at bekæmpe skattesvig, skuffeselskaber, andet misbrug af skattesystemet og økonomisk kriminalitet, også til fordel for de virksomheder, som opfører sig hæderligt. Og hvis vi får et system her, som bruges til skatteunddragelse, til skattekonkurrence og til at underminere arbejdstagerrettigheder, så går det i hvert fald i den forkerte retning.
Og det er også vigtigt at holde fast i, at vi har brug for skatteindtægterne i medlemsstaterne, for der er jo en regning, som skal betales, og hvis skattegrundlaget udhules, så risikerer vi, at det er lønmodtagerne og velfærden, der kommer til at betale. Så det helt afgørende er, hvordan indretter vi de her regler? Bliver det regler, som sikrer os mod skattesnyd og svindel, eller er det regler, som åbner op for det? Det er rigtig vigtigt for os.
Hr. Kofod, der er et blåt kort, vil du tage det? Okay. Mr. Mularczyk, seat 590, please, blue card.
Arkadiusz Mularczyk
Panie pośle, mam pytanie, czy według pana ten proponowany reżim podatkowy nie stanie się pierwszym krokiem do faktycznego ograniczenia suwerenności fiskalnej, finansowej państw Unii Europejskiej? Czy nie jest to pierwszy etap, którego celem jest harmonizacja podatków, ale tak naprawdę jest to etap do tego, żeby w przyszłości zmuszać kraje, również inne Unii Europejskiej, do tego, żeby dochodziło do takiej formy opodatkowania? Czy to nie doprowadzi w przyszłości do takiej sytuacji, że ograniczy możliwość prowadzenia przez kraje Unii Europejskiej własnej polityki fiskalnej?
Per Clausen
Thank you very much. Thank you. Hr. Kofod.
Tak for det spørgsmål. Det er et meget relevant spørgsmål. Der skal ikke være nogen tvivl om, at jeg er modstander af, at man laver en harmonisering af skattesystemet i EU.
Jeg mener stadigvæk, der skal være national suverænitet i forhold til det. Og det kommer også til at indgå i min vurdering af det forslag, som ligger til vedtagelse her i dag, som indeholder rigtig, rigtig mange gode og fornuftige elementer. Men jeg er enig i, at vi har en risiko for, at et sådant system kan bruges til at udhule medlemsstaternes suverænitet og mulighed for selv at fastlægge deres skatteindtægter og dermed også have mulighed for selv at bestemme niveauet for skatten og niveauet for den velfærd, der skal være i et land. Tak.
Christel Schaldemose
Tusind tak. The next speaker is Mr. De Masi for one minute, please.
Fabio De Masi
Frau Präsidentin, unsere Unternehmen stehen unter Druck, aber nicht wegen der nationalen Besteuerung, sondern weil die Energiepreise zu hoch sind, weil unsere Infrastruktur verlottert und weil vor allem große US-Tech-Konzerne häufig in Europa weniger als 1 % Steuern auf ihre Gewinne zahlen, während unser Mittelstand bis zu 30 % im Binnenmarkt bezahlt. Ich habe meine Zweifel, ob wir diesem Problem dadurch Herr werden, dass wir neben den 27 nationalen Steuergesetzen ein 28. Steuerregime schaffen, was es dann eben auch Apple oder eben auch Amazon oder Coca-Cola erlaubt, zukünftig sich das attraktivste Steuerrecht in Europa herauszusuchen. Wir sollten stattdessen eine verstärkte Zusammenarbeit machen zwischen den großen Mitgliedstaaten Frankreich, Spanien, Italien, dort will ja Apple sein iPhone verkaufen, nicht in der Karibik oder in Luxemburg, und endlich Quellen- oder Strafsteuern auf Finanzflüsse in Steueroasen durchsetzen. Damit würden wir uns wehren auch gegen die Erpressung von Donald Trump, dann stünden die Tech-Oligarchen bei ihm auf der Matte und wir könnten unseren Mittelstand schützen. Vielen Dank.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much and the next speaker is Mr. Hadjipantela for one and a half minute, please.
Michalis Hadjipantela
Κυρία Πρόεδρε, κυρία Επίτροπε, αγαπητοί συνάδελφοι. Η ανταγωνιστικότητα της Ευρώπης δεν εξαρτάται μόνο από την καινοτομία. 27 διαφορετικές εθνικές αρχές δημιουργούν πανύψηλα εμπόδια, ιδιαίτερα για τις μικρομεσαίες επιχειρήσεις. Η ίδρυση μιας πετυχημένης επιχείρησης με δυνατότητες διεθνούς ανάπτυξης απαιτεί ένα ευνοϊκό και απλό επιχειρηματικό περιβάλλον. Το 28ο καθεστώς είναι η ευρωπαϊκή απάντηση στην πολυπλοκότητα της ενιαίας αγοράς.
Είναι η δυνατότητα ίδρυσης εταιρείας σε ευρωπαϊκό επίπεδο σε ένα ενιαίο πλαίσιο, με λιγότερη γραφειοκρατία, πιο απλές διαδικασίες και μεγαλύτερη ασφάλεια δικαίου. Κυρία Πρόεδρε, αγαπητοί συνάδελφοι, επιβάλλεται να δημιουργήσουμε ένα περιβάλλον που να ενθαρρύνει την καινοτομία, να προωθεί τις επενδύσεις και να αναπτύσσει τις ευρωπαϊκές επιχειρήσεις. Το 28ο καθεστώς είναι η ευρύτερη προσφορά της Ευρώπης, έτσι ώστε οι καινοτόμες εταιρείες να εξασφαλίζουν πρόσβαση σε χρηματοδότηση, να λειτουργούν απρόσκοπτα ανεξαρτήτως συνόρων, να διασφαλίζουν σαφές και προβλέψιμο νομικό πλαίσιο. Το ουσιαστικό πολιτικό μήνυμα είναι ότι η Ευρώπη χρειάζεται αυξημένη απλούστευση και ισχυρότερη ενότητα, με σαφέστατο προσανατολισμό. Μία Ευρώπη, μία ενιαία αγορά.
Σας ευχαριστώ.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much and the next speaker is Mr. Repasi for one minute, please.
René Repasi
Frau Präsidentin, Frau Kommissarin, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen. IOING ist ein wichtiger Vorschlag für unseren Binnenmarkt und da bin ich ganz beim Kollegen Niedermayer von den Christdemokraten. Wir müssen mehr Binnenmarkt wagen. Und wenn wir mehr Binnenmarkt wagen, dann heißt das auf der einen Seite mehr Liberalisierung, aber eben gleichzeitig europäische Schutzstandards. Wir brauchen wahrlich keinen Dumpingwettbewerb, bei dem die nationalen Schutzstandards und die nationalen Steuerrechte im Wettbewerb zueinander gestellt werden, bei dem nämlich nur einer verliert, das ist das öffentliche Interesse.
Die Gefahren, die bei einem unbegrenzten Wettbewerb der nationalen Rechtsordnung für die Arbeitnehmerinnen und Arbeitnehmer entstehen, sind die gleichen für die Steuerrechtsordnung, nämlich ein Abwärtswettlauf. Der Bericht von Luděk Niedermayer findet hier die richtige Tonlage. Keine Diskriminierung im Steuerbereich für IOING, weil dann ist die Idee ganz schnell im Abfalleimer.
Aber wir brauchen auch klare Schutzstandards, damit es keinen weiteren schädlichen Steuerwettbewerb in unserer Europäischen Union gibt. Als Berichterstatter des Gesetzgebungsverfahrens begrüße ich den Text ausdrücklich. IO-Inc muss ein Qualitätssiegel werden und kein weiteres Vehikel für Dumping. Danke sehr.
Julie Rechagneux
Le 28ème régime, ce n'est pas un simple outil de compétitivité, c'est un véritable projet politique. C'est la création d'un nouvel ordre juridique européen sans peuple, sans territoire, mais avec ses propres règles. On nous dit qu'il sera optionnel, que les codes nationaux ne seront pas supprimés, mais vous savez très bien qu'ils deviendront peu à peu inutiles. C'est ça la nouvelle méthode de l'intégration européenne. Vous ne retirez plus officiellement les compétences aux États membres, vous organisez leur contournement.
Aujourd'hui c'est le droit des sociétés, demain ce sera peut-être la fiscalité, après-demain le droit du travail, et ce sera toujours officiellement au nom de la compétitivité. Vous ne trompez personne, comme souvent c'est une fuite en avant fédéraliste. La compétitivité européenne ne se construira jamais contre les nations. Elle se construira avec les États libres de décider de leurs règles, de leur fiscalité et de leur modèle économique. Les peuples européens n'ont jamais voté pour un 28ème État, et ils n'en veulent pas davantage aujourd'hui.
Gheorghe Piperea
Acest al 28-lea regim este o federalizare voalată a Uniunii Europene. Este un proiect care sfidează suveranitatea națiunilor Uniunii Europene și principiul subsidiarității. Prin modulul fiscal adăugat proiectului se încearcă și ocolirea principiului unanimității pentru a introduce pe ușa din dos regula majorității. Regimul 28 înseamnă un set de reguli paralele pe care marile companii îl pot alege atunci când le este convenabil. Ce companie nu ar prefera un regim fiscal și social care este favorabil, mai favorabil?
Armonizarea normelor de drept societar nu înseamnă un regim juridic social și fiscal care să nege sistemele legale ale celor 27 de state membre. Modulul fiscal propus va submina toate cele 27 de regimuri fiscale ale statelor membre și în plan social va cauza dumping, dumping social și șomaj. Societățile dreptul muncii și fiscalitatea trebuie să rămână competențe ale statelor membre, competitivitatea nu se poate reduce la un segment de companii care aleg regimul 28. Vă mulțumesc.
Isabel Benjumea Benjumea
Thank you chair. Señora comisaria. Según el Fondo Monetario Internacional, las barreras internas de Europa equivalen a un coste similar a un arancel del 44% para los bienes y del 110% para los servicios. Una empresa que quiere crecer en Europa se enfrenta a 27 marcos jurídicos distintos a los que sumar las disparidades regionales dentro del propio Estado miembro. Eso significa más costes, más tiempo dedicado al cumplimiento normativo en lugar de innovar, invertir, crecer y crear empleo.
Europa no tiene un problema de talento ni una falta de ambición, sobran trabas y falta un entorno que facilite la expansión y atraiga inversión. Por eso el régimen 28 representa una oportunidad.
Eso sí, debe ser un instrumento voluntario, digital y flexible y que aporte seguridad jurídica y reduzca las cargas administrativas. Si conseguimos reducir esta fragmentación, atraer más capital privado, promover el emprendimiento y permitir que nuestras empresas nazcan, crezcan y permanezcan en Europa, este régimen habrá triunfado.
Thank you. There is a blue card. Do you want to take it? Mr. Rzońca, seat 274 please.
Bogdan Rzońca
Tak, bardzo dziękuję. I will speak Polish, please. Yes. Tak, chciałem zapytać panią, bo podobało mi się pani wystąpienie. Dużo pani mówiła o inwestycjach.
To dla mnie jest bardzo ważne, że zauważacie jako EPP ten problem. I chciałem dlatego panią zapytać o zdanie, stanowisko, dlatego że jest grupa państw w Unii Europejskiej w tej chwili, która mówi wprost o tym, że jeśli w nowym budżecie 28-34 będziemy wdrażać zasadę nie czyń zła środowisku naturalnemu, to wiele branż w Unii Europejskiej nie skorzysta z budżetu. Przestaniemy być konkurencyjni względem Chin i Indii. Co pani na to? Czy rację mają ci, którzy mówią, żeby dopuścić do budżetu w nowej perspektywie wszystkie branże i nie ograniczać do nich dostępu?
Isabel Benjumea Benjumea
Bueno, su pregunta es sobre el marco financiero plurianual, entiendo que se refiere al fondo de competitividad, es un debate que está abierto y no es el debate que estamos teniendo aquí. Yo me refiero a la importancia de atraer inversión. Uno de los problemas más importantes que tenemos en Europa es la movilización de inversión privada, tanto de ahorros como atraer inversión extranjera para nuestras empresas. Esa es la referencia a la que me estoy haciendo. Queda un debate importante, por supuesto, alrededor del marco financiero, alrededor del fondo de competitividad, cómo estructurarlo, qué prioridades debe tener y a qué prioridades se debe destinar y, por supuesto, estaré encantada de tenerlo con usted cuando llegue el momento.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr. Andrikaitis for one minute please.
Vytenis Povilas Andriukaitis
Thank you, Commissioner, President, colleagues. Today we are debating 28th regime for innovative startups and scale-ups. But underneath this report lies a bigger question. What do we do when 27 national tax systems slow down innovations? If we cannot have full taxation harmonization, we need a common European layer so that our innovative startups and scale-ups no longer has to fight 27 tax administrations to grow.
It is a sensible answer. I ask all of us to remember it also when we will discuss biotech, health and startups issues. The same fragmentation is burdening a patient waiting for multi-country clinical trials or innovative company wanting to create new medicine. If a single base can serve our companies, it must also serve our people who need innovative medicine available only through multi-country clinical trials. We know what to do.
The question is whether we will act for innovative biotech companies, startups today and for patients waiting innovative treatment tomorrow. Thank you.
There is Mr. Andrikaitis, there is a blue card. Mr. Andrikaitis, there is a blue card. Andrikaitis, there is a blue card. Do you want to take it? Good, good, good.
Thank you. Mr. Dostál, seat 845 please.
Ondřej Dostál
Thank you, dear colleague. I heard your arguments, they are important. But I want to raise a question. My country's health system is very generous, but also highly dependent on taxes and social payments which the companies pay according to our Czech law. Do you think you can guarantee that this new 28th tax regime would not deprive our nice national system of its income?
Thank you very much.
Vytenis Povilas Andriukaitis
My answer is clear. No. We need to understand now and we need to encourage Member States to cooperate. Cross-border healthcare directive requires cooperation. Open method of coordination requires cooperation.
Mutual recognition requires cooperation. And of course also possibilities to encourage Member States to understand that single market can deliver treatment to people and organize access to treatment is reality. We need to move in this direction.
Thank you very much. So the next speaker is Vice-President Zberna for one minute please.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie Presidente, colleghi. Nei nostri territori ci sono migliaia di piccole imprese che ogni giorno perdono tempo e risorse dietro la burocrazia, invece di dedicarli a crescere, assumere ed innovare. Il ventottesimo regime deve essere forgiato come uno strumento rivolto a semplificare la vita a chi investe, produce e crea lavoro. E questo è l'obiettivo primario che tutti condividiamo. Ma affinché sia efficace lo strumento deve rimanere volontario, non deve creare complessità che diventerebbero altrimenti ingestibili per gli Stati membri e quindi frenerebbero gli intenti che tutti comunemente abbiamo.
Oggi penso che dobbiamo pensare a creare le condizioni per aumentare competitività e valore aggiunto europeo, e il testo che votiamo oggi rischia di essere fonte di idee che invece andrebbero a deteriorare competenze che è pericoloso centralizzare e togliere ai comparti nazionali. Armonizzare delle basi imponibili, superamento dell'unanimità in materia fiscale, diritto del lavoro e codeterminazione sono tutti elementi che rischiano di far deragliare un progetto nobile e potenzialmente molto utile. Quindi vi invito a concentrarsi su quello che le imprese chiedono, ad esempio una partita IVA europea, un registro digitale unico e nel complesso procedure snelle e operative. Non creiamo ostacoli a questo percorso ancor prima del suo decollo.
Paulius Saudargas
Thank you. And the next speaker is Mr. Saudargas for one minute please.
Thank you President, Commissioner, dear colleagues. The European single market still feels like 27 separate islands when our companies try to scale. Europe is not losing competitiveness because we lack innovation, but because our market is too fragmented. Different rules, different forms and procedures, different tax systems. The 28th regime could be a flexible solution.
My home country Lithuania has already proven that flexible regulatory environment creates a massive competitive advantage. Look at our fintech sector. In 2018 it was just starting and by 2025 over 250 companies were thriving. We had what European companies need: one trusted digital entry point, a single legal company form valid across the entire Union, clear rules and unified tax base for cross-border activities. Let's listen to them.
Let's make it easier for European companies to grow at home, not elsewhere. Thank you.
Rihards Kols
Thank you very much and the next speaker is Mr. Kols for one minute please.
Dear colleagues, a single market and 27 company law systems. That fragmentation costs European businesses the equivalent of 44% tariff on goods and 110 on services inside our single market. We tax ourselves out of our own market, then act surprised when our startups found themselves in Texas instead of Riga.
That is the broken infrastructure we need to fix, not qualified majority tax rules. So let's simplify: one digital registration, one rulebook for company scaling everywhere in the EU. That is the actual precondition to competitiveness. This file does not stand alone. It sits alongside EU Inc, insolvency rules, and one more pillar that matters: European business wallets.
One digital identity instead of 27 separate logins. Today, an SME expanding abroad spends on average 10,000 euros and 14 weeks on paperwork. Get the wallet right, and that time cost falls by roughly half, saving business some 150 billion euros a year. Real benefits, no member state loses its tax base, and every founder who left for Texas gets the reason to come home. Thank you.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Ms. Kokalari for one minute, please.
Arba Kokalari
Thank you, Madam Vice-President. Building a company in Europe today means 27 rulebooks. Unfortunately, many see it as 27 reasons to move to the US. So we need to make it easier for European companies to stay in Europe. We must make it easier for them to scale in Europe, and not just scale the paperwork.
That is the ambition that we should set for EU Inc. One European company form, one rulebook, one single market. EU Inc companies must also offer a good employee stock option programs, and to become easy to list in European stock markets. We have a unique chance to make Europe a single market for real. That will make us competitive global, and that is what's going to make Europe rich and prosper in the future.
So let's make EU Inc happen, and let's make it easier to become an entrepreneur in Europe. Thanks.
Thank you. And the next speaker is Mr. Ressler for one minute, please.
Karlo Ressler
Potpredsjednice, povjerenice, kolegice i kolege. Bez hrabrih inovacija, bez novih ulaganja i bez stvarnog jedinstvenog tržišta, Europa je nažalost samo uspavani gospodarski div koji je snažan po svom potencijalu, ali spor i trom u svijetu koji nas ne čeka. Zato je prijedlog o jedinstvenom, jednostavnijem europskom okviru za rast poduzeća jedan od najvažnijih, ali i jedan od najpozitivnijih prijedloga ovog saziva. To znači dobrovoljan, digitalan i jasan pravni okvir, od osnivanja društva u najviše 48 sati, preko standardiziranih obrazaca i lakšeg privlačenja kapitala, do poslovanja i rasta diljem Europe bez 27 različitih zapreka. Time bi se dramatično poboljšalo poslovno okruženje i uklonilo nepotrebne zapreke i smanjilo administrativni teret uz dodatnu pravnu sigurnost.
Cijena rascjepkanosti danas je enormna, teret koji je ponekad veći i od najvećih i najviših carina. Europa ima znanje, ima ljude, ima kapital i više si ne može priuštiti da se ideje rađaju ovdje, a društva registriraju negdje drugdje.
Thank you, Mr. Ressler. There is a blue card. Do you want to take it?
Sure.
Lukas Sieper
I have two, but I will only be able to give it to one, and I give it to Mr. Seiper, 254.
Thank you, colleague, for accepting my blue card. You rightfully said that we have a lot of potential. I am sure you're also aware of the exceptions to the basic freedoms of the internal market that national member states can impose. Do you think that as long as these exceptions still exist, stuff like EU Inc can really work, or should we not think even further to dig out our potential?
Karlo Ressler
Thank you for the question. I think that we should definitely think and move beyond only this proposal. You are mentioning the exceptions that do exist. I wouldn't put them all in the same category. So I think that we should really make a smart choice.
But in general, I think that it is quite clear that really Europe has knowledge, Europe has the people, and Europe has the potential to do it. We can do it because I think in this case that we have to have also one rulebook for those who want to scale up, and this is something that we will do with this proposal. Thank you.
Thank you very much. The last speaker before catch-the-eye is Mr. Beke for one and a half minute, please.
Wouter Beke
Thank you, President. Mevrouw de commissaris, collega's, vandaag botsen innovatieve bedrijven op 27 nationale systemen, 27 registers, 27 juridische drempels. De veelbelovende Europese Unie die verliest hierdoor heel veel tijd, kapitaal, potentieel. En Europa heeft talent. We hebben talent, we hebben kennis, we hebben drive.
Maar opschalen is veel te moeilijk. Collega Andriukaitis heeft verwezen naar de Biotech Act en ik ben het daar helemaal mee eens. Ik heb het voorstel van het 28ste regime al eens eerder een administratieve vereenvoudiging in het kwadraat genoemd. Maar dan moet het wel veel ambitieuzer. Het mag geen lege doos blijven, geen extra laag bovenop de 27 nationale regimes, want dan kunnen we er beter meteen mee ophouden.
Commissaris, daarom vraag ik u ook, laat ons werk maken van een 28ste regime met een echt supranationaal kader. Eén Europees register, lage kosten en minimumkapitaal, stevige harmonisatie van de vennootschapsregels, digitale procedures die overal op dezelfde manier kunnen werken en toegang tot de gespecialiseerde European Court of Commerce. Laat ons niet vertrekken vanuit de angst of nationale reflexen. Wat ik hier gehoord heb, aan de extreemrechtse kant zegt men, oh maar we gaan de nationale regels niet opgeven, en aan de extreemlinkse kant zegt men, ja maar dat gaat ons misschien extra inkomsten, minder inkomsten geven. Weet u wie hier dan de grootste slachtoffer van is?
Dat is de Europese consument. 4.000 euro per jaar kunnen we aan de consument teruggeven. Daardoor kunnen we economische groei creëren en kunnen we ervoor zorgen dat innovatie en kapitaal hier in Europa kan blijven. Dank u wel.
Thank you very much. Mr. Beke, there is a blue card, do you want to take it?
Ms. Grapini, please stick to the time.
Maria Grapini
Mulțumesc, doamnă președintă. Sigur, ați spus că avem extrem de multă nevoie de acest cadru european unic. Dar credeți că poate funcționa doar dacă noi instituim acum acest cadru european atât timp cât avem, de exemplu, 27 de sisteme de achiziții publice, pentru că noi am cerut Parlamentul și Consiliul a blocat, am cerut să fie un regulament. Avem 27 de legi pentru plăți întârziate, din nou, este blocat la Consiliu. Cum credeți că ar trebui să armonizăm totul ca să avem un cadru unic?
Altfel, un întreprinzător, mai ales un IMM, va trebui să cunoască 27.
Wouter Beke
Thank you. Thank you very much. Mr. Beke.
Ja, ik ben het collega helemaal eens met uw analyse, maar dat is helemaal geen reden om niet voor een 28ste regime te gaan. Dat is nog meer een grotere reden om te zeggen, laat ons ambitieuzer zijn op economisch vlak om te harmoniseren wat er geharmoniseerd moet worden. Als we Europa één grote dienst kunnen bewijzen voor onze economische groei, en dat betekent voor onze welvaart, voor ons sociaal-economisch marktmodel, dan is het wel dat, economische harmonisatie.
Thank you very much. So now we come to catch-the-eye. I have seven speakers.
Christel Schaldemose
If you respect the speaking time, I will be able to take you all, beginning with Mr. Kelly, seat 141, please.
Seán Kelly
My colleague Rosler said that Europe was a sleeping giant, and this is a sleep that is self-inflicted because of over-regulation, etc. So now we need to wake up and get rid of the sleeping tablets. I think the report by Mario Draghi is being followed through very sensibly by the Commission in relation to omnibuses and now the 28th tax regime. But also crucial to that is investment money, and that can come from the savings and investment union, which is a priority for the Irish presidency over the next six months. And if we get the cooperation we need and require, then the billions of euros that citizens have in banks, sleeping there, losing money for them, can be utilized to create the investment that will help us to not only research, but also innovate, scale up, and manufacture in Europe, and that will benefit all of us.
Go raibh maith agat, a Chathaoirligh.
Thank you very much, and the next speaker is Mr. López Aguilar, seat 315, please.
Juan Fernando López Aguilar
Thank you, Madam President. Commissioner, EU Inc, régimen 28 es un objetivo ambicioso: crear reglas armonizadas para la constitución, gobernanza y estructuras de capital de las empresas innovadoras, coherente con lo que proponen los informes Letta y Draghi con los que arrancó esta legislatura. Y además hacerlo por un reglamento, es decir, que solo requiera mayoría cualificada en el Consejo. Bien, este Parlamento no solamente lo apoya claramente, sino que quiere liderar esa iniciativa. Pero tenemos que ser conscientes de sus dificultades, porque lo haremos en coincidencia con la ausencia de armonización fiscal, que sigue perteneciendo a los Estados miembros como competencia, laborales igualmente, 27 regímenes distintos.
Y también, a pesar de que se armonice el registro de las empresas, convivirá con 27 modelos registrales diferentes en la Unión. Por tanto, el objetivo es plausible, pero conscientes de la dificultad, lo que hay que conseguir es que el resultado legislativo esté a la altura de la ambición proclamada. Gracias, Presidenta.
Thank you very much, and the next speaker is Mr. Tynkkynen, seat 210, please.
Sebastian Tynkkynen
Arvoisa puhemies, tämä talo ei pääse yli vihreästä vimmastaan. Kun käsitellään rajat ylittävän liiketoiminnan verotuksen yksinkertaistamista, samasta ovesta yritetään vetää punavihreän puolueohjelman kirjauksia. Nimittäin Euroopan eduskunnan kannaksi esitetään tähän yksinkertaisempaan verojärjestelmään liittyen seuraavaa: vihreän innovoinnin olisi voitava saada väliaikaisia lisävähennyksiä tai veromaksun lykkäyksiä. Minä kysyn: miksi ihmeessä tämä vihreä innovointi tarvitsee nämä kaikki lykkäykset, lisävähennykset ja valtion tuet, joita te jatkuvasti puskette? Ei kai vain ole niin, että vihreät hankkeet eivät pärjää kilpailussa ja niitä pitää siksi tukea kaikin mahdollisin keinoin?
Eurooppa odottaa edelleen sitä vihreää kasvua, jota te olette vuosikausia luvanneet. Realismia on lakata odottamasta sitä ja alkaa kunnioittamaan markkinatalouden periaatteita, jotka eivät rakennu vihreän tukihumpan varaan. Kiitos.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much, and the next speaker is Ms. Ní Mhurchú, seat 651, please.
Speaker 89
A Chathaoirligh, agus é de ghlacadh uachtaránacht an Aontais chuici féin, tá treisiú iomaíochas na hEorpa go mór chun tosaigh. Mar sin, fáilte roimh an tuairisc seo. Ag feiceáil ó mo ghrúpa féin, Renew Europe, agus gabh buíochas leis an gCoimisinéir atá déanta faoin bhfachtóir réasúnach atá rabhánach, rabhánach dár SMEs. Tosaigh san Eoraip, fás san Eoraip, fanaigí san Eoraip agus gan imithe abhaile.
Níl an margadh scoilte san Eoraip ag feidhmiú ar son ár SMEs ar feadh i bhfad ach a mhalairt is ag feidhmiú ina n-aghaidh atá sé. Molaim an creatlach Eorpach rannach seo chun an córas a shimpliú, an chorparáid, muineadh, in-stiúrtha, doiciméadacht dhlíthiúil, saothar agus cánach a choigeartú. Agus ag aithint ag an am céanna an t-eagracht pholaitiúil a bhaineann le cúrsaí cánach ag leibhéal náisiúnta na mballstát. Go raibh maith agaibh.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr. Minchev, seat 250, please.
Petras Gražulis
Thank you very much, dear Madam President, Madam Commissioner, dear colleagues. Obstacles to business's cross-border operations and expansion constitute a major hurdle to an effective single market. We complain a lot about the 15% US tariffs, but we tend to forget that existing barriers in our own single market account to much more. And yes, a single business code would be a game changer. Today a company expanding across Europe must navigate different tax procedures, authorities and reporting requirements.
This is where the 28th regime can make a practical difference by simplifying this procedure through a one-stop shop, a single interface and stronger coordination between tax authorities. But if a company can register under one European framework and still has to navigate different national rules every time it hires, raises capital or expands into a new market, we will have changed the rulebook without changing the reality of doing business in Europe. The question is simple: will this regime remove complexity or merely add another layer of it? Let's do our best to achieve the first, because its success will ultimately depend on whether companies can operate more easily across our single market and compete more effectively. Thank you.
Thank you very much. And the next speaker is Mr. Gražulis, seat 525, please.
Gerbiama pirmininke, gerbiama komisare, siekiant bendros rinkos, aš manau, kad mes turėtume vienodinti ir mokesčius. Lietuvoje pridėtinės vertės mokestis yra vienas aukščiausių Europos Sąjungoj. Ypač pridėtinės vertės mokestis yra aukštas maisto produktams. Daugelyje Europos Sąjungos šalių pridėtinės vertės mokestis maisto produktams yra daug žemesnis, bet Lietuvoj tai nedaroma išimčių. Aš manau būtina siekti, kad maisto produktams pridėtinės vertės mokestis būtų nulinis tarifas, ypač būtiniausiems maisto produktams.
Ne kartą siūliau būdamas europarlamentaras, kad tie mokesčiai būtų mažesni, bet deja nepritardavo nei viena, nei kita vyriausybė. Ar nemano Europos Sąjunga, kad maisto produktams būtina mažinti mokesčius, tuo labiau, kad Lietuvoje yra atskirtis turtinė labai didelė ir skurstančių arti 20 procentų žmonių.
Thank you very much. And the last speaker under catch-the-eye is Ms. Sakorafa, seat 840, please.
Maria Zacharia
Επίτροπε, σας καλώ να αποσύρετε αυτή την πρόταση. Το λεγόμενο 28ο καθεστώς δεν είναι μια αθώα διοικητική αλλαγή. Είναι μια επικίνδυνη πόρτα για τις εταιρείες γραμματοκιβώτια, το κοινωνικό ντάμπινγκ και την αποδυνάμωση των συλλογικών δικαιωμάτων. Η ίδια η Ευρωπαϊκή Συνομοσπονδία Συνδικάτων ETUC προειδοποιεί ότι δεν υπάρχουν δεσμευτικές εγγυήσεις για τους εργαζόμενους. Το Ευρωπαϊκό Συνδικαλιστικό Ινστιτούτο προειδοποιεί ότι ανοίγει ο δρόμος για τον ανταγωνισμό εις βάρος των μισθών και των δικαιωμάτων.
Αν η Επιτροπή πιστεύει ότι τα δικαιώματα των εργαζομένων δεν κινδυνεύουν, τότε κατοχυρώστε ρητά στον κανονισμό ότι θα εφαρμόζεται πάντοτε το εργατικό δίκαιο και οι συλλογικές συμβάσεις της χώρας όπου εργάζεται πραγματικά ο εργαζόμενος. Μέχρι να κατοχυρωθούν δεσμευτικές εγγυήσεις για κάθε εργαζόμενο, η θέση μας είναι ξεκάθαρη: αποσύρετε αυτή την πρόταση. Σας ευχαριστώ.
Christel Schaldemose
Thank you very much. So, dear colleagues, we still have a debate going on, so I would kindly ask you to be a little more quiet and please listen to the debate. And I will now give the floor to the Commission and Commissioner Šuica, please the floor is yours. But please, please do not talk inside the chamber unless you have speaking time. Please, Commissioner.
Dubravka Šuica
Thank you. Thank you, Chair. Dear members, honorable members, thank you for your valuable remarks and for your recognition that this proposal is a good step in right direction. The EU Inc is a corporate law proposal which is part of a broader strategy to strengthen the competitiveness of the European economy. Yes, we want to remove complexities and we want to simplify, but not lower our standards combating tax evasion.
We will ensure fair taxation, a level playing field and maintain a high level of protection against tax fraud. The objective is to enable companies to operate under a single harmonized set of EU-wide rules instead of having to navigate different corporate law frameworks of the Member States. We commend that the European Parliament recognizes the EU Inc as a strategic step forward towards a further deepening and improvement of the single market and competitiveness. We also acknowledge the Parliament's general call for further legislative actions related to the 28th regime. We are ready to listen to the businesses and work together with the Member States to create an environment in which companies can thrive.
Thank you for your exchange and all the best.
Thank you very much. So, dear colleagues, we still have a debate going on and I know it's nice to see colleagues, but would you please be so kind not to talk to each other inside the plenary, go outside. And I will go and now give the floor to the rapporteur to close the debate, please the floor is yours, Mr. Ödor.
Ľudovít Ódor
First, I wanted to thank all the shadow rapporteurs and also for MEPs for the lively debate. I think it also showed that this is an important topic. Second, I wanted to highlight maybe three issues which are really important and I felt a little bit of misunderstanding in the plenary. The first one, the regime is optional. It is optional not only for the companies but also from the Member State to opt in into this regime.
So this is not forcing anybody to harmonize or for a targeted harmonization among Member States. The second one, it is not mainly about tax revenues since startups and scale-ups usually generate at the beginning of their life very, very limited revenues. And the third one is that it is important to highlight that we are not an isolated island somewhere in the Pacific, but we need to be competitive internationally. And what are the benchmarks internationally? If you look at the situation in the US, they have a special regime for scale-ups, startups and innovative company, it is called the Delaware regime.
I do not advocate to simply copy that situation, but mainly because of worker rights and others, but still we need one regime for having a scale in Europe. Because what is the alternative? If we are not able to create big companies, globally competitive companies, if we are not able to utilize the full single market, then of course somebody else will decide about our future and that is not at least I that is not I want for the future of Europe. So thank you once again very much for the constructive discussion.
Christel Schaldemose
Also a big thanks to you, Mr. Ödor, and the debate is closed.
The vote will be held today, and the sitting is suspended for a few minutes, and then we will start again with the votes. Thank you very much. The sitting is resumed.
Sophie Wilmès
The EPP and Renew Europe groups have notified the President of decisions relating to changes to appointments within committees. These decisions will be set out in the minutes of today's sitting and take effect on the date of this announcement. I would like to inform the House that I received a request for a point of order of Mr. Lukas Sippel.
Lukas Sieper
Thank you, Madam President. Rule 202 number 1 and number 4, rule 180 number 1 in conjunction with rule 202 number 4. On Monday, the President reminded us that there should be no chanting in this chamber. Yesterday, it happened again. The reaction of the sitting President: nothing.
Later, a colleague requested a personal statement. Under the very plenary reforms that were introduced, it should be granted immediately. He was ignored. And finally, yesterday evening, a colleague said, talking about Muslims, and I ask interpreters to make it very clear that this is a quote, he said about Muslims: they spend a lot of time with goats. The reaction of the sitting President: we will look into that.
Let me be very clear. I do not blame the sitting Presidents. I blame the culture. Breaches of our rules of procedure are rarely addressed in this chamber. They disappear into administrative procedures instead of being dealt with transparently.
If we want the plenary reform to succeed, we need to change the culture together. Thank you very much.
Sophie Wilmès
Thank you. I have received another request for a point of order and I will give the floor to Mr. Sean Kelly.
Seán Kelly
Go raibh maith agat, a Bhean an hUachtaráin, agus is féidir liom. Yesterday, at the first discussion, debate on the conclusions of the European Council meeting, a lot of members understandably at the time were critical of the non-attendance of the Irish Presidency. Having already looked at the reason, I can now assure members that it was not the fault of the Irish Presidency. The European Council decided, because it was the conclusion of the meetings in relation to the Council, that only President Costa, who was in Ankara at the NATO summit, could attend. The Irish Minister was here and available to attend the meeting, but he was not allowed.
And I think it's only fair to the Irish government. We had a meeting with our Prime Minister on Monday night, Micheál Martin, and there we discussed the need to attend and show respect to Parliament, and the Irish Presidency will attend all meetings that they're required and allowed to attend here in Parliament. Go raibh maith agat, a hUachtaráin.
Sophie Wilmès
Thank you. Furthermore, I have received a request for a point of order from Mrs. Ewa Zajączkowska-Hernik.
Ewa Zajączkowska-Hernik
W oparciu o artykuł drugi Parlamentu Europejskiego dotyczącego niezależności mandatu posła do Parlamentu Europejskiego, który właśnie został złamany, wnoszę o natychmiastowe zatrzymanie przyspieszonej akcesji Ukrainy do Unii Europejskiej. Ukraińskie służby prowadzą listę Myrotvorets, na której umieszczają nazwiska ludzi zgłoszonych do nękania, zastraszania i eliminowania. Dziś na tą listę zostałam wpisana ja, wcześniej zostali wpisani moi koledzy z Patriotów dla Europy. To zamach na unijnych dyplomatów, których życie i bezpieczeństwo może być zagrożone. To gangsterka i łajdactwo.
Oczekuję reakcji szefowej Parlamentu Europejskiego w celu ochrony dyplomatów tej instytucji, ponieważ nasze życie i nasze bezpieczeństwo jest w tym momencie zagrożone. Dziękuję.
I have a request for a point of order from Mrs. Irena Joveva. You have the floor.
Irena Joveva
Thank you very much, Madam Chair, colleagues, I rise for a point of order under Rule 202 regarding Rules 60, 73 and 170 regarding the derogation that we will be voting today. This House has already sovereignly expressed its position and vote down this extension twice. President had no mandate to ask the Council to proceed to a second reading, yet we are here today. This urgent procedure hit our agenda before we even received the Council's position and then the required plenary debate under Rule 170.4 never even took place. We cannot rubber-stamp the mass surveillance of our citizens.
Furthermore, by rushing this temporary flawed fix, we drastically weaken Parliament's position on the long-term file, which is exactly where we should come to a conclusion to protect our children. The Council had every opportunity to find a reasonable middle ground and even now they can still adopt our position if we amend this text. So colleagues, please help us save the face of this House, protect our children and secure the privacy of our citizens. Thank you.
Sophie Wilmès
Lastly, I have received a request for a point of order from Mrs. Malika Sorel. Mrs. Sorel, you have the floor.
Malika Sorel
Merci, Madame la Présidente. Mon intervention est basée sur la règle 202 du règlement intérieur et sur notre obligation de respecter l'article 2 du traité qui nous lie tous quant au respect de la démocratie, de l'État de droit, des valeurs de l'Union européenne et de l'article 10 du traité qui stipule que le fonctionnement de l'Union européenne est basé sur la démocratie représentative. Mais comment, chers collègues, les parlementaires pourraient-ils remplir ces conditions avec tout le sérieux que cela exige lorsque nous, parlementaires, recevons des listes de votes, pardon, qui changent souvent jusqu'au dernier instant ? Ce n'est pas sérieux. Les listes de votes, les amendements devraient être figés quelques jours avant le vote.
Je vous appelle, chers collègues, à œuvrer tous pour faire évoluer nos règles de fonctionnement de manière à ce que nous puissions voter avec le sérieux que cela exige, aussi par respect pour tous les citoyens de l'Union européenne. Merci.
We now come to the vote. Before we vote on the decision to enter interinstitutional negotiation, we are going to have one round of group speakers on the establishment of digital euro. Mr. Navarrete Rojas, you have the floor.
Fernando Navarrete Rojas
Thank you, Chair. Colegas, pagar y acceder al efectivo es cada vez más difícil para los ciudadanos. Europa depende de proveedores de pago digitales controlados por países terceros. Ignorar esto ya no es una opción. Este paquete protege el efectivo como nunca antes lo ha hecho el derecho comunitario y ofrece además el euro digital, una alternativa más, no una imposición.
Sin embargo, estimados ciudadanos, algunos prefieren atemorizarles con un mundo distópico en el que el euro digital es utilizado como herramienta de control. No sé si se confunden de continente, de realidad o simplemente quieren una ciudadanía asustada que puedan controlar ellos. Les aseguro que mienten, porque una mayoría de esta Cámara ha diseñado un sistema con los más altos estándares de privacidad, más altos que los medios de pago que ya utilizamos. Nadie ni sabrá ni decidirá en qué gastamos nuestro dinero. Efectivo y euro digital, dos formas de pagar, una sola libertad, la de cada ciudadano para elegir.
Sigamos trabajando para hacerlo realidad.
Muchas gracias.
Nikos Papandreou
Thank you, Mr. Papandreou.
The digital euro answers a simple question: who should control Europe's financial future? The answer is Europe. To those behind the motion to block over there: when amendments weaken access to cash by reducing ATMs, you remain silent. When we challenge the foreign payments duopoly, you side with the status quo. When we fought to cut fees for merchants, you opposed us, even today with your motion.
You claim to stand with ordinary Europeans, but too often you stand with powerful financial interests. Enjoy the rewards of populism while they last; the people of Europe will see through the contradiction sooner than you think.
Mrs. Győri.
Enikő Győri
Yes, Patriots raise objection to the mandate to enter inter-institutional negotiations on the digital euro as it fails to strike the right balance between strengthening Europe's strategic autonomy and safeguarding innovation, competition, and security in the European payments market. I mention just two reasons. First, the Parliament's draft would exempt unidentified asylum seekers from standard customer identification requirements, while law-abiding European citizens must comply with strict identification rules. This is a clear and nonsense discrimination against rule-respectful European citizens. Second, separating the digital euro's offline and online functionalities would have reduced Europe's dependence on non-European payment providers while allowing European private payment solutions to innovate and grow.
EPP, together with the leftist groups, have impeded that. So for these reasons, I urge this House to support this objection. Thank you.
Stephen Nikola Bartulica
Thank you, Mr. Bartulica.
Thank you, I will speak in Croatian. Kolegice i kolege, uvođenje digitalnog eura nije tehničko pitanje, nego prvorazredno političko pitanje i zaslužuje odgovor cijelog ovog parlamenta. Dok na ovom mjestu raspravljamo o brojnim izvješćima, jedan od najvažnijih zakonodavnih prijedloga, stvaranje novca u digitalnom obliku, ne dolazi pred cijeli dom na otvorenu raspravu. Postavlja se pitanje zašto? Sudjelovao sam u pregovorima i mislim da ovaj projekt se ne može spasiti.
Čuli smo od Središnje banke, po njihovim vlastitim procjenama, ovo će koštati između četiri i šest milijardi eura. To nije zanemariv iznos, pogotovo u trenutku kad Europska unija zaostaje u konkurentnosti sa drugima. Na kraju treba reći da jedina velika zemlja koja je uvela digitalni novac u ovom obliku je komunistička Kina. Hvala.
Gilles Boyer
Thank you, Monsieur Boyer.
Merci, Madame la Présidente. Nous sommes aujourd'hui trop dépendants des moyens de paiement non européens, en particulier américains, et cette dépendance, mes chers collègues, doit cesser. Les solutions privées se développent, et c'est très bien, mais nous devons aussi doter l'Union d'une monnaie publique numérique paneuropéenne, souveraine, qui sera l'équivalent numérique de notre argent liquide. Un moyen de paiement supplémentaire et garanti à la disposition de tous les citoyens européens, même ceux qui sont aujourd'hui privés de l'accès à un compte bancaire. C'est un outil de souveraineté, un outil de liberté, et je vous invite à voter en faveur du mandat de négociation pour que ce beau projet devienne une réalité.
Je vous remercie.
Damian Boeselager
Merci, Mr. Boeselager.
My dear colleagues challenging the digital euro, I have listened carefully, but your arguments simply don't add up.
First, you call yourselves patriots and yet you oppose the one instrument that could loosen the grip that Donald Trump has on all our payments. If you're true European patriots, vote for the anti-Trump coin. Second, you tell us how much you love the privacy of cash, and who doesn't love cash? And yet you oppose the one instrument that could bring that privacy and anonymity into the digital world. If you like cash, vote for the anonymous digital coin.
And third, you claim to stand with ordinary people and businesses. And yet you oppose the one instrument that would make digital payments finally affordable for your bakery, for your corner store, and for your cafe. If you like your bakery, vote for the affordable digital coin. Sovereignty, privacy, affordability. Colleagues, why are you opposing these three?
Think harder, stop the conspiracy theory, read the law and vote for the digital euro.
Pasquale Tridico
Thank you, Mr. Tridico.
Presidente. Presidente e colleghi. Se oggi pagate in contanti, domani potrete continuare a pagare in contanti, esattamente come fate oggi. Ma se scegliete di pagare in elettronico, in digitale, l'euro digitale vi offrirà la possibilità europea, pubblica e indipendente che i vostri dati rimangano in Europa e di pagare in Europa, piuttosto che lasciare milioni di dati e milioni di euro in commissioni passare d'oltreoceano, principalmente a vantaggio di Visa e Mastercard. L'introduzione dell'euro digitale è una risposta principalmente a questo.
Non vuole e non può sostituire il contante. Vuole affiancarlo, sostituire invece Visa e Mastercard, offrire un'alternativa pubblica e indipendente. L'euro digitale rappresenta il tentativo di ridurre la nostra dipendenza e mente chi dice che è un regalo alle banche. L'euro digitale è il tentativo europeo di recuperare sovranità monetaria e autonomia strategica. Proprio coloro che si dicono sovranisti e patrioti dovrebbero votarlo.
Se siete sovranisti coi confini, dovreste esserlo anche sui dati dei cittadini europei. Votate per l'euro digitale.
Siegbert Frank Droese
Thank you, Mr. Dröse. You have the floor.
Frau Präsidentin, verehrte Kollegen, der vorgeschlagene Rechtsrahmen für den digitalen Euro umfasst Elemente wie verpflichtende Akzeptanzregelungen, die Einbindung digitaler Identitätssysteme, Identifikationsmechanismen sowie weitergehende Eingriffe in Zahlungsmarktstrukturen. Darüber hinaus könnte das Vorhaben erhebliche Auswirkungen auf das bestehende Bankensystem und die Struktur privater Einlagen haben sowie das Verhältnis zwischen Bürgern und öffentlichen Währungsinstitutionen grundlegend verändern. Die Gesamtheit dieser Elemente begründet erhebliche Zweifel daran, dass Artikel 133 AEUV allein eine ausreichende Rechtsgrundlage für den derzeit vorgesehenen Rechtsrahmen darstellt. Der digitale Euro birgt daher die Gefahr, den Umfang der unionsrechtlichen Währungskompetenz durch eine extensive Auslegung des Artikel 133 AEUV über die in den Verträgen vorgesehenen Grenzen hinaus auszudehnen. Ein Vorhaben mit derart weitreichenden Auswirkungen auf Zahlungssysteme, Marktstrukturen, das Bankensystem und Zahlungsmechanismen darf in seiner derzeitigen Form nicht unterstützt werden.
Danke.
Sophie Wilmès
Thank you. Report by Fernando Navarette Rojas on the provision of digital euro services by payment services providers incorporated in Member States whose currency is not the euro. Vote for decision to enter interinstitutional negotiation. In favor. Against.
Abstention. Adopted. The committee can start interinstitutional negotiation immediately. Report by Fernando Navarette Rojas on the establishment of the digital euro. Vote for the decision to enter interinstitutional negotiation by roll-call vote.
The vote is open. By roll-call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Adopted. The committee can start inter-institutional negotiations immediately. Report by Mohammed Chahim on amendments on the Critical Raw Materials Act. I give the floor to Mr. Chahim.
Mohammed Chahim
Thank you, Chair. As rapporteur on this file, I want us to start the mandate we put forward as completely, clearly sound and politically strong as possible. In the view of the latest developments, I believe it is important that the committee has the opportunity to address these changes that should be reflected in the mandate. Therefore, in accordance to Rule 204(2), as rapporteur of the file, I would like to request that the ITRE mandate on the amendments to the Critical Raw Materials Act be referred back to the committee for further discussion. Thank you.
Sophie Wilmès
Thank you. Vote for the procedural motion on referral back to committee as requested. In favor. Against. Abstention.
Adopted. The report is referred back to the committee in accordance with Rule 204. Urgent procedure: proposal for regulation amending Regulation (EU) 2021/1232 as regards the extension of its period of application. I would like to remind you that the majority of Parliament's component members is required to reject or amend the Council position. So, proposal to reject the Council position.
We have Amendment 1, 2, and 7 by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. It is rejected. So we go to the amendment.
Amendment 8 by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 9 by roll-call vote.
The vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 30 by roll-call vote. The vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Adopted. Adopted. Amendment 10 by roll-call vote.
The vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 11 by roll-call vote. The vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 12 by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Amendment 13 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 26 corresponding to part 1 with amendment 31 and amendment 4 by roll call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected, sorry, sorry, rejected. Because we need 360. Amendment 14 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Amendment 15 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 26, amendment 31 and amendment 4 corresponding to part 2 by roll call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 26 and 31 corresponding to part 3, amendment 6 and amendment 21 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted.
Amendment 5 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 27 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Amendment 16 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 17 by roll call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 18 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected.
Amendment 19 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 20 by roll call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected.
Amendment 28 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 29 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Amendment 22 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 23 by roll-call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 3 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected.
Amendment 24 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 25 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Mrs Aubry.
Manon Aubry
Thanks, Madam President. In accordance with Rule 68, paragraph 4, I want to ask on behalf of the Left Group in the European Parliament a final rejection vote with a roll-call vote, because I think, and we collectively think, that this mass surveillance system deserves a proper democratic oversight, and this is why we ask for a final rejection vote on the matter.
You have the floor.
Grazie, Presidente. A beneficio dell'intera aula, un chiarimento procedurale: si chiede un rigetto della proposta originaria o si chiede un rigetto della proposta come emendata dal voto dell'aula che ha visto passare due emendamenti?
We can vote by roll-call vote for the proposal to reject the position. We have started. You have the floor. Mr Tobé.
Colleague, colleague, colleague, I can answer the question. Colleague, colleague, we will have a vote now. We respect, of course, the request of the Left. We now have some amendments approved. We have the text.
I would urge colleagues to vote, of course, in this vote. We should respect it. From EPP, I want to be clear: we are standing with the children, we have to protect them from predators.
Sophie Wilmès
So, we are now going to the vote by roll-call vote. The vote is open. Procession to the vote, the vote is open.
So, it is the vote on the rejection of the Council. I said what the vote is about. The vote is open and is going to be closed. I have said, if you are listening, you will know that it is the vote on the proposal to reject the Council position as amended. As amended.
With the amendment. The vote has been open. You should have always been prepared on that. The vote is still open, so you are ready to... We are in the middle of a voting.
We are not going to... There is no debate during the vote, so we are going to proceed with the vote. It's the proposal to reject the Council position as amended. As amended. So, do I have to repeat it?
It's the proposition to reject the text as amended, as this Parliament has amended the text. I leave the thing open. The vote is closed. So, the rejection is rejected, so the European Parliament has concluded its second reading. So, we are going to go to continue with the vote.
Joint motion for a resolution tabled by five groups on the threats of war crimes, the escalation, violation of international humanitarian law and human rights situation in El Obeid, Sudan. Paragraph one, original text by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted.
Paragraph two, original text by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed.
Adopted. Paragraph 3, original text, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted.
Paragraph 4, original text, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted. Amendment 6, by roll-call vote.
The vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 2, by roll-call vote. The vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Paragraph 5, original text, in five parts. First part, by roll-call vote. The vote is open.
The vote is closed. Adopted. Second part, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed.
Adopted. Third part, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted.
Fourth part, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted. Fifth part, by roll-call vote.
The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted. Amendment 3, by roll-call vote. The vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 4, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed.
Paragraph 7, original text, in two parts. First part, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted.
Second part, by roll-call vote. The vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 1, by roll-call vote.
The vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Vote for the resolution as a whole, by roll-call vote. The vote is open.
The vote is closed. Adopted. Joint motion for a resolution tabled by five groups on the ongoing persecution of Christians in Nigeria, notably in the Kawe village massacre. Amendment two in two parts, first part by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Second part by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment seven, in favor, against, abstention, rejected.
Amendment three, in favor, against, abstention, rejected. Amendment six in two parts, first part by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Second part by roll-call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment four in two parts, first part by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected.
Second part by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment five by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Amendment one by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Original text in two parts, first part, who is in favor, who is against, who is abstain, check.
The vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted. Please raise your hands. Second part, who is in favor, who is against, who is abstention, check again.
Vote is open. Vote is closed. It is rejected. Vote for the resolution as a whole by roll-call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. It is adopted. Joint motion for a resolution tabled by five groups on the adoption, forced conversion and child marriage by Maria Shahbaz and the protection of girls in Pakistan. Amendment one by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Adopted. Amendment five by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted. Amendment six by roll-call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Adopted. Amendment three by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted.
Amendment two by roll-call vote, uh no, amendment two, who is in favor? Who is against? Abstention? Adopted. Amendment four by roll-call vote, the vote is open.
The vote is closed. Adopted. Vote for the resolution as a whole, who is in favor? Who is against? Who abstain?
Adopted. Report by Ludovik Odor on the feasibility of the 28th tax regime and its potential to support EU competitiveness. Vote for the resolution as a whole by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted.
Motion for a resolution tabled by the Committee on Development on the joint communication on humanitarian aid. Amendment two by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Amendment 16, who is in favor?
Who is against? Who is abstention? Rejected. Amendment five by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Adopted. Amendment six by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Adopted. Amendment 17, who is in favor?
Who is against? Abstention? Rejected. Amendment eight, who is in favor? Who is against?
Abstention? Rejected. Amendment 10, who is in favor? Who is against? Abstention?
Rejected. Original text, who is in favor? Who is against? Abstention?
Adopted. Amendment 9, who is in favor? Who is against? Abstention? Rejected.
Amendment 11, who is in favor? Who is against? Abstention? Rejected. Amendment 12, who is in favor?
Who is against? Abstention? Rejected. Amendment 13 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed.
Rejected. Amendment 14, who is in favor? Who is against? Abstention? Rejected.
Amendment 15 by roll-call vote, the vote is open. The vote is closed. Rejected. Vote for the resolution as a whole, who is in favor? Who is against?
Adopted. The sitting is suspended and it will be resumed at 15:00, at 3 o'clock, with the oral question to the Commission, an updated regulatory framework, have a great holidays. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Good afternoon, dear colleagues. Let's work efficiently through this last point of the Strasbourg session. Ședința este reluată, procesul-verbal al ședinței de ieri și textele adoptate sunt disponibile. Există observații? Nu văd observații, procesul-verbal este aprobat.
Avem pe ordinea de zi următorul punct și anume întrebarea cu solicitare de răspuns oral adresată Comisiei Europene, un cadru de reglementare actualizat pentru lână, și îl invit la microfon pe autorul acestei întrebări, pe domnul Buda Daniel.
Daniel Buda
Vă mulțumesc, domnule președinte, doamnă comisar, doamnelor și domnilor colegi, mulțumesc tuturor pentru participarea la această dezbatere despre un subiect foarte important care frământă spațiul public agricol la nivel european. Stimați colegi, acum 20 de ani un fermier din România își putea cumpăra o casă cu banii obținuți din vânzarea lânii de la 600 de oi. Astăzi, același fermier este obligat să scoată bani din buzunar doar pentru a scăpa de lâna produsă în propria fermă, transformând astfel o resursă valoroasă într-o povară economică. În țările nordice, de exemplu, valoarea pierdută anual din cauza nevalorificării potențialului lânii este estimată la 120 de milioane de euro. Se pune întrebarea firească cum am ajuns aici.
Nu pentru că lâna și-a pierdut utilitatea. Ea poate să fie folosită în industria textilă, în construcții ca material izolator, dar și ca îngrășământ natural, însă problema este că legislația europeană a transformat valorificarea lânii într-un proces complicat și costisitor. Regulamentul european 1069 pe 2009 și regulamentul 142 pe 2011 clasifică lâna drept subprodus de origine animală din categoria 3, alături de sânge, de exemplu, de pene sau alte subproduse. Această clasificare impune condiții stricte și costisitoare de manipulare, depozitare, transport și procesare, inclusiv atunci când lâna provine de la animalele sănătoase. Apare întrebarea firească: cum justifică Comisia Europeană faptul că lâna provenită de la animalele sănătoase ajunge să fie tratată mai mult ca un deșeu decât o resursă agricolă valoroasă?
În același timp, din cauza cerințelor de mediu tot mai stricte și costurilor greu de suportat, Europa și-a pierdut o mare parte din capacitatea de spălare și procesare a lânii. Rezultatul este absurd. Producem lână în Europa, o transportăm mii de kilometri până în Turcia pentru a fi spălată, apoi o aducem înapoi. Plătim mai mult, transportăm mai mult, poluăm mai mult și ne distrugem propria industrie în timp ce vorbim despre durabilitate și economie circulară.
Doar acea legislație care transformă o resursă valoroasă într-o povară economică nu protejează agricultura europeană, ci o condamnă. Fermierii, doamnă comisar, nu cer privilegii, ci doar dreptul de a-și valorifica munca și produsele lor. Mulțumesc.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Mulțumesc și eu. Trebuie să spun că este o onoare să conduc această dezbatere. Vin din familii de ciobani din zona Sibiului, așa că este important, doamnă comisar. It's very important to take this matter very seriously. I invite you to the microphone to speak to the sector and speak to our colleagues.
Dubravka Šuica
Thank you, dear chair, dear members. First of all, my thanks go to the honorable members who tabled this oral question, especially MEP Buda. The Commission recognizes in its, in our livestock strategy, which we just adopted this week, this Tuesday, by-products such as wool or manure are not a waste, but rather a resource that has value and serves multiple purposes in a circular bioeconomy. So this happened this Tuesday. By enabling the production of bio-based products and supporting circular resource use, wool contributes to the objectives of the bioeconomy and the circular economy.
These products also create environmental, economic, and rural development benefits. In the meantime, the regulation on animal by-products provides proportionate, risk-based rules to protect animal and public health. The regulation includes flexible options to collect, transport, and store wool, as well as options for other uses like fertilizers. In line with international standards and based on available scientific knowledge, wool is categorized among the animal by-products that represent the lowest but not insignificant risk for public and animal health. It is in the least restrictive category, with a wide range of options for its safe use and valorization.
Many farmers do struggle to sell wool into textile industry, which is itself facing difficulties. That means many farmers are instead disposing of their wool, but this is not stipulated by the animal by-products regulation. Instead, it is a decision by farmers and businesses in the wool sector forced by the problems of the textile industry. Let me assure you that the Commission continues to work on providing new opportunities for wool producers. As announced in our livestock strategy, the Commission will work on facilitating the use of animal by-products without jeopardizing animal health, food, and feed safety standards and review potential regulatory bottlenecks.
As they stand, animal by-product implementing rules already offer opportunities for different uses of wool. These include making fertilizers and other products from wool as long as specified animal diseases are not present. The Commission is also exploring new options to help wool producers. This was part of the bioeconomy strategy that we adopted in November last year. That strategy includes a dedicated EU CAP Network focus group on innovative and sustainable ways to strengthen the role of farmers in revitalizing the European wool value chain.
We will continue to look into these sorts of possibilities. We are committed to supporting farmers to enable different uses of wool while always accounting for any associated health risks. We are committed to maintaining the EU's high standards for public health and animal health. We are also committed to fewer restrictions for farmers and wool producers whenever health risks and effective risk mitigations allow it. But we also need to be ready for the possibility of disease outbreaks because the level of risk is higher even if that happens.
This is what the animal by-product regulation provides for. So I will now listen to your views. Thank you so much.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Thank you very much, Madam Commissioner. Now we start with the round of political groups. First, Maria Walsh on behalf of the EPP.
Maria Walsh
Thank you, Commissioner. A recent study in Ireland found that almost half of our farmers want to add value to their wool. And yet more than 80% are unable to do so. And the big question is why? Because there are too few markets, too little processing capacity, and too much unnecessary bureaucracy.
Thank you very much, President.
Maria Walsh
For many sheep farmers, wool has become a cost rather than an income, and you'll hear that from colleagues today. Yet across Ireland, there are a number of ambassadors working incredibly hard to bring value to wool. In Galway, there's Blatnaid Gallagher, who established the Galway Wool Co-op with LEADER support, connecting farmers with new markets for their wool and promoting the Galway wool as a sustainable and locally grown material. Also in Galway, we have Michael Burke, founder of Woolo, is producing natural wool pillows that offer an alternative to synthetics for people with hay fever and dust allergies. Roscommon-owned business Fertiwool is transforming wool into organic fertilizer pellets that can hold up to 20 times their weight in water, helping crops withstand droughts and extreme heat.
And once again in Galway, we have Katerina Huskova, who's leading a crowdfunding campaign to reopen a wool mill, bringing back much-needed processing capacity for local farmers. These are not just inspiring local projects. These are businesses creating tangible jobs in our rural areas. They unlock the value of a resource we already produce. So why are we making it so difficult?
Too often, wool from healthy sheep is treated more like a waste than a valuable natural product, which we've heard from MEP Daniel Buda. That means more cost for farmers, more barriers for processors, and fewer opportunities for our rural businesses. If we're serious about supporting farmers, strengthening our rural economies, and building a genuine circular economy, then our policies have to reflect those ambitions. That means cutting unnecessary red tape. It means investing in local processing, and it means creating new markets for wool.
Let's stop treating wool as a problem. It is part of the solution. Thank you very, very much.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Thank you. On behalf of the Socialist Group, it's Mr. Kristian Vigenin.
Kristian Vigenin
Уважаеми господин председател, госпожо комисар, колеги. Днешният дебат е доказателство, че за Европейския парламент е важна всяка тема, която засяга хората. На пръв поглед повдигнатите въпроси за вълната може да изглеждат чисто технически, но за много фермери в Европа, особено в планинските, полупланинските и по-бедните региони, това е въпрос на оцеляване. Овцевъдството не е просто един от секторите на животновъдството. То поддържа живота в селските райони, пази пасищата, съхранява местните породи и традиции, осигурява доходи там, където алтернативите често са малко.
Това важи с особена сила за страни като България и за много региони в Източна и Южна Европа, където малките стопани продължават да носят основната тежест. И точно тези стопани днес са поставени в абсурдна ситуация. Те са длъжни да стрижат овцете си. Това е необходимо за здравето и хуманното отношение към животните, но след това вълната често не носи доход, а се превръща в разход. Стопаните плащат за стрижене, после за съхранение, транспорт или дори за унищожаване, защото пазарът е слаб, преработката е недостатъчна, а правилата са прекалено тежки за реалния риск.
Това не е справедливо. Вълната е естествен, възобновяем, биоразградим и устойчив материал.
В същото време Европа говори все повече за кръгова икономика, за устойчиви текстилни продукти и за намаляване на отпадъците. Но какъв е смисълът да говорим за устойчивост, ако оставяме собствените си европейска вълна да се обезценява, докато пазарът се залива с евтини синтетични материи, бърза мода и дрехи, които се носят няколко пъти и след това се изхвърлят. Разбира се, трябва да бъдем отговорни по отношение на здравето на животните. В България и в региона фермерите добре знаят колко тежки последици могат да имат заболявания като шарка по овцете и козите, чума по дребните преживни животни, син език. Една епидемия може да унищожи стада, доходи и години труд.
Затова не става дума за премахване на контрола. Става дума за по-разумен контрол. Комисията трябва да предложи по-пропорционален, ясен и основан на риска режим за вълната от здрави животни. Когато няма реален ветеринарен риск, правилата не трябва да правят събирането и използването на вълната икономически безсмислено. Малките стопани не могат да бъдат третирани като големи индустриални оператори.
Те нямат същия административен капацитет, нямат същия достъп до пазари и не могат да поемат всяка допълнителна тежест. Затова очаквам от Комисията конкретни действия. Първо, преглед на действащите правила, така че вълната от здрави животни да бъде третирана като ресурс, а не като отпадък. Второ, подкрепа за регионални центрове за събиране, сортиране и първична обработка на вълна. Това е особено важно за малките стопанства, които поотделно не могат да изградят такава инфраструктура.
Трето, по-добро свързване на земеделската политика с текстилната стратегия на Европейския съюз. Ако говорим за устойчив текстил, европейската вълна трябва да има реално място в тази политика. Четвърто, подкрепа за кооперативи, местни преработватели и малки предприятия, които могат да върнат добавената стойност в регионите, вместо суровината да бъде изоставена или продавана на безценица. И пето, по-силна ветеринарна подкрепа, ранно откриване на заболявания, по-добра трансгранична координация и справедливи обезщетения, когато стопаните са засегнати от мерки за контрол на болести. Това не е носталгия по миналото.
Това е въпрос на разумна индустриална, земеделска и екологична политика. Ако Европа иска да бъде по-устойчива, тя трябва да започне с ресурсите, които вече има. Ако искаме да запазим живота в селските райони, трябва да помогнем на малките стопани не само да оцелеят, но и да получават справедлива стойност за своя труд. Ако искаме да ограничим бързата мода и културата на изхвърляне, трябва да подкрепим естествените и трайни материали. Овцете така или иначе трябва да бъдат стригани.
Въпросът е дали европейската политика ще остави вълната да бъде проблем за фермера или ще помогне тя отново да стане ценен продукт за Европа. Благодаря.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Vă mulțumesc. Din partea grupului Conservatorilor și Reformiștilor Europeni, doamna Georgiana Teodorescu.
Georgiana Teodorescu
Vă mulțumesc. Ani de zile, din cauza unor reglementări absurde, lâna a fost tratată pe nedrept ca un deșeu de risc, forțând oierii să o îngroape sau să o ardă. Aceasta nu este protecția mediului, este o risipă curată. Regulamentul European 1069 pe 2009 tratează lâna ca pe un deșeu în loc să o vadă ca pe o resursă strategică valoroasă. Nu avem nevoie de constrângeri ideologice care îngroapă tradițiile și sufocă fermierii, ci de soluții inteligente, realiste.
Lâna are nenumărate avantaje și aplicații fantastice. Este un izolator termic excepțional pentru construcții, este un îngrășământ organic excelent în agricultură și o materie primă sustenabilă pentru textile. Omenirea se îmbracă de mii de ani cu lână și, deși combatem poluarea, practic, blocajul lânii nu face decât să încurajeze alte materiale sintetice, precum plasticul, și să accentueze poluarea. Doamnă comisar, nu este suficient să avem o strategie europeană, din păcate.
Vă solicităm un cadru de reglementare actualizat care să recalifice și să sprijine financiar valorificarea lânii. Este timpul să facem dreptate pentru crescătorii de animale și pentru toți cetățenii europeni care au dreptul să folosească produse naturale și sănătoase. Vă mulțumesc.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Mulțumesc și eu. Urmează Billy Kelleher din partea grupului Renew.
Billy Kelleher
Go raibh maith agat, a Leas-Uachtaráin. Sheep farmers have a responsibility to shear their sheep for animal welfare issues, and rightly so. But, Commission, as it stands, farmers have to pay up to €3.50 per sheep for shearing. In other words, it is a cost, and at the end of that shearing exercise, they have a product that's defined as being waste, as being a nuisance. And I believe at this stage we really have to address this fundamental issue.
We have to accept from the very start that wool is a product that has huge potential and in the past was a very valuable product that was used widely across Europe, primarily in the area of textiles and other forms. But with the modern technologies that are available to us, the modern building programs that we use, there's certainly opportunities for us to look at ways of being innovative and of creating new ways to use wool. So when we look at the livestock strategy and it outlines some of the significant challenges that have been placed on the livestock sector, the area of sheep is quite evident. There's declining numbers, very often in regions that need not just sheep, but the people to look after them. And this is having a knock-on negative effect in peripheral regions and remote regions of Europe that traditionally would have been very active in the context of sheep farming and shepherding.
So I would urge the Commission to look at the issue of the blocks that are being put in it in terms of the definition of what wool is, and if it is still the issue that it is creating difficulties, that we would reclassify to allow wool to be seen in a more positive light. We also need to develop markets and processing capacity. In Ireland one time, Commission, we had a very strong woolen industry. We had an exceptionally strong woolen industry. In 1984, when the National Wool Council, An Chomhairle Olann, was abolished as a cost-saving exercise, we exported 5,895 tons at a value of 14 million.
In today's terms, that would be the equivalent of a value of 30 million today. In 2019, we exported 5,641 tons and its value was only 6,800,000. So there's been a significant decrease in the value of wool itself. So I would urge the Commission to look at this in a very proactive way. There are many people doing good work in Ireland in promoting wool, and Baile Mhúire, Béal Átha an Ghaorthaidh, John Joe Fitzgerald as Corca Dhuibhne, Contae Chiarraí, as ucht an méid oibre atá sé ag déanamh ar son tionscal olann in Éirinn.
John Joe, Leas-Uachtarán den INHFA. Ba chóir dúinn a bheith ag oibriú leis an tionscal olann agus ag rith ár bhfeirmeoirí go léir ar fud an oileáin. So in summarizing, I think there's an obligation on national states, but equally on the Commission, to remove the barriers and the inhibitions to us creating a vibrant wool industry that will reflect well in terms of the markets that could be developed, but most importantly will allow us to continue to have sustainable circular economies in the areas of sheep farming and more importantly in the areas that need sheep farmers and sheep. Go raibh míle maith agaibh go léir.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Thank you very much. Next speaker is Thomas Waitz on behalf of the Greens.
Thomas Waitz
Danke Vorsitzende, Kommissarin und danke an alle Kolleginnen, die bei dieser letzten Debatte am letzten Tag vor der Sommerpause hier in Straßburg noch den Weg ins Plenum gefunden haben. Und wir diskutieren ein Thema Wolle, man kann sagen, ja, wie detailliert wollen wir hier jetzt eingehen auf die Themen, aber Wolle ist ein zentrales Thema, das viele Auswirkungen auf unsere Landwirtschaft hat. Besonders Landwirte in benachteiligten Gebieten sind in die Schafhaltung involviert. In vielen Bereichen ist nicht mehr viel mehr möglich als Schafhaltung und es sind mitunter die am geringsten verdienenden landwirtschaftlichen Betriebe, die heute noch Schafhaltung betreiben. Und ein das es ist eine der letzten Möglichkeiten überhaupt noch ein Einkommen zu erzielen in benachteiligten Gebieten.
Und wie der Kollege Billy Kelleher schon dargestellt hat, die Kosten ein Schaf zu scheren sind größer als das, was man für die Wolle bekommt. Und ein Thema was noch nicht beleuchtet wurde, Schafhaltung hat eine äußerst positive Auswirkung auf die Biodiversität. Es ist eine der wenigen menschlichen Tätigkeiten, die zu mehr Biodiversität führt und nicht weniger Biodiversität. Aber bitte Kommission, gehen Sie hier nicht raus und sagen Sie hier ist alles in Ordnung, es gibt hier nichts zu sehen. Wir haben ein Problem und das Problem ist, dass wir Wolle erstens zu wenig Verarbeitung haben für die Wolle und zweitens haben wir das Problem, dass Wolle nicht als Dünger direkt verwendet werden kann.
Wenn ich die Wolle zuerst transportieren, waschen, reinigen und pelletieren muss, dann ist es nicht mehr lohnend. Ich verstehe, dass man die Wolle nicht über Grenzen hinweg transportieren kann aus sanitären Gründen. Aber lassen Sie uns doch in der Landwirtschaft, im Gemüsebau, im Obstbau die Wolle direkt als Dünger verwenden, da bestehen keine Risiken und es wäre eine sofortige Lösung für ein Problem, das wir quer durch die Europäische Union haben. Ich bitte Sie darum, sehen Sie sich das an. Dankeschön.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Danke schön. Urmează Arno Bausemer din partea grupului Europa Națiunilor Suverane.
Arno Bausemer
Ja, sehr geehrter Herr Vorsitzender, meine Damen und Herren, die Notwendigkeit der heutigen Debatte ist ein weiterer Beleg dafür, dass sich die EU-Kommission meilenweit von der Wirklichkeit der Menschen entfernt hat. Es ist völliger Unsinn, dass der wertvolle, dass das wertvolle natürliche Produkt Schafswolle gemäß einer Verordnung der Kommission noch immer als tierisches Nebenprodukt der Kategorie 3 eingestuft wird. Wolle also als Abfallprodukt auf einer Stufe mit Blut oder Häuten. Mehr Verachtung für den traditionellen Beruf des Schäfers und für Wolle als wertvolle landwirtschaftliche Ressource ist fast nicht mehr möglich. Eigentlich wird diese Verachtung nur noch getoppt davon, dass rund 700 Kollegen der heutigen wichtigen Debatte hier fernbleiben.
Jetzt werden die Debatten sogar noch eingeschränkt, so dass man bis 20 Uhr die letzte Rede also gehalten haben soll. Meine sehr verehrten Damen und Herren, ich bin jetzt seit knapp 10 Jahren Mitglied der AfD und muss mir diesen Schwachsinn jetzt seit 10 Jahren anhören, dass wir die Demokratie verächtlich machen würden. Jetzt haben Sie am Dienstag hier beschlossen mit Mehrheit, dass Sie ein Prüfverfahren gegen unsere ESN-Partei einleiten wollen, weil wir oder weil Sie Zweifel haben an den EU-Werten. Wenn Ihre EU-Werte nunmehr sind Kontrollwut, Steuerverschwendung, Arbeitsverweigerung, Ausgrenzung unangenehmer politischer Konkurrenz oder aktive Förderung von Waffenlieferungen in Kriegsgebiete und damit verbunden Förderung von Korruption in diesen Kriegsgebieten, ja dann, dann bestehen noch erhebliche Zweifel an der Kommission und an gewissen linken Fraktionen hier im Parlament.
Zurück zur Wolle. Ich komme aus dem kleinen Bundesland in Deutschland, Sachsen-Anhalt. Wie erklären Sie denn bitte dem Schäfer in Sachsen-Anhalt, der bei Wind und Wetter 365 Tage im Jahr seine Schafe betreut, dass hier im Parlament offenbar kaum jemand sich für sein Schicksal interessiert? Wie erklären Sie diesem Schäfer, dass sein Produkt von der EU-Kommission seit Jahren als Nebenprodukt und damit faktisch als Abfall eingestuft wird? Und wie erklären Sie diesem Schäfer mit seinen knapp 300 Schafen, ob er seinen Beruf in Zukunft aufgrund drohender Neubürokratie oder aber hoher Kosten durch den Herdenschutz in Zukunft noch wirtschaftlich ausüben kann?
Wolle ist eben nicht nur ein Nebenprodukt. Mützen, Schals, Handschuhe, Pullover, Jacken, Mäntel, Kleider, Schals, Hausschuhe, Hüte, Hosen, Matratzen, Kissen, Flugzeugsitze, Feuerwehruniformen, Kuscheltiere, Windeln, Billardtischbelege, Puppen oder Teppiche. Dies alles und vieles mehr wird mit hochwertiger Wolle produziert und damit aufgewertet. Jetzt wäre es an der Zeit, dass wir hier im Europäischen Parlament auch die Schäferwirtschaft stärken und die Einordnung der Wolle aufwerten. Wer Schafe mag, muss Schafe schützen.
Wer Wolle will, muss Schäfer stützen. Vielen Dank.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Vielen Dank, Herr Kollege. Es folgt jetzt die Kollegin Marion Walsmann.
Marion Walsmann
Liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen, vielen Dank an Maria Walsh, Daniel Buda und Herbert Dorfmann, dass sie diese Debatte initiiert haben. Und als ich mich zum ersten Mal tiefergehend mit dem Thema Wolle beschäftigt habe, konnte ich das nicht glauben, was wir als EU hier tun oder besser gesagt nicht tun. Wir alle wissen, Europa ist wahrlich nicht mit Rohstoffen gesegnet. Wolle ist so ein Rohstoff: vielfältig einsetzbar, regional verfügbar, wasserabweisend, schwer entflammbar, biologisch abbaubar. Und was tun wir?
Wir werfen die Wolle trotzdem einfach weg. Oder wir verkaufen sie zu Dumpingpreisen nach China. Die Folge: Bei deutschen Schäfern zum Beispiel macht der Erlös aus Wolle weniger als zwei Prozent des Einkommens aus. Die Chinesen kaufen dagegen weltweit Wolle auf. Dort ist Kleidung aus Wolle ein Statussymbol.
Es ist Zeit, dass wir den Wert unserer Wolle wiedererkennen. Das Timing ist gut. Ich setze hier einige Hoffnungen in die irische Ratspräsidentschaft. In meiner Heimat Thüringen gibt es sehr interessante Ansätze, um Wolle zusammen mit Hanf zu verweben. Das Ergebnis ähnelt Baumwolle, ist aber nachhaltiger.
Wir müssen solche Projekte fördern und vorantreiben. Es geht dabei auch um Wertschöpfungsketten und Arbeitsplätze. Verbraucher sind bereit, mehr Geld für nachhaltige, regional produzierte Kleidung auszugeben. Und ebenso besteht in der Baubranche Bedarf an nachhaltigen Dämmstoffen. Auch über den knappen Dünger für unsere Landwirtschaft reden wir in diesem Haus ja häufiger.
Da Wolle einen hohen Stickstoffgehalt hat, eignet sie sich in Form von Pellets hervorragend als Langzeitdünger. Vieles ist möglich, wenn wir nun die Rechtslage anpassen. Ich bitte die Kommission daher, in der Verordnung über tierische Nebenprodukte die Einordnung von Wolle in der Kategorie 3 zu überdenken. Wolle gehört einfach nicht in die gleiche Risikogruppe wie Tierblut oder Häute. Wolle ist keine Gefahr, sie ist eine Chance.
Nutzen wir sie.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Frau Walsmann, es gibt eine blaue Karte für Sie. Nehmen Sie das an? Das ist von Herrn Mularczyk.
Arkadiusz Mularczyk
Dziękuję bardzo. Pani poseł, I will speak Polish.
Yes. Pani poseł, jest pani przedstawicielką Niemiec, jest pani przedstawicielką EPP, kraju i formacji, która od dekad rządzi Unią Europejską. Podczas ostatniej i tej debaty i tej, która była wcześniej, dotyczącej przemysłu rybnego w Europie, wszyscy posłowie, europosłowie krytykują Unię Europejską za to, że niszczy swoje rolnictwo, że niszczy swoje rybołówstwo. Jak pani to wytłumaczy, że Niemcy, że EPP doprowadziły do takiej sytuacji, że rolnictwo w Unii Europejskiej jest nieopłacalne? Jaką pani ma receptę na tą sytuację?
Marion Walsmann
Wer hier welchen Anteil an was trägt, ist vollkommen unentscheidend. Es ist entscheidend, dass wir handeln und dass wir, wenn wir Fehler erkennen, sie berichtigen. Und daran sind wir gerade am Arbeiten.
Marlena Maląg
Szanowni państwo. Ile jeszcze raz usłyszymy wzniosłe hasła o Zielonym Ładzie, podczas gdy unijne przepisy każą za to, co naprawdę jest ekologiczne? Surowa wełna, naturalny i odnawialny, w pełni biodegradowalny surowiec nadal jest uznawany za odpad. Przecież to absurd. Hodowcy owiec płacą za magazynowanie i utylizację wełny.
Po co? Przecież ten materiał może izolować domy, użyźniać glebę, zastępować syntetyczne materiały. Tak wygląda praktyczna ekologia, a nie chora ideologia. Europejska polityka klimatyczna wymaga rozsądku, wymaga spojrzenia na prawdziwe problemy ludzi, którzy każdego dnia wykonują ciężką pracę: rolnicy, górnicy, rzemieślnicy. Dziś widzimy oderwanie Brukseli od codziennego życia.
Łatwo wygłaszać ambitne deklaracje, trudniej usunąć przepisy, które szkodzą rolnikom i środowisku. Dlatego wzywam Komisję Europejską do przekwalifikowania surowej wełny z odpadu na pełnowartościowy surowiec. Zacznijmy od likwidacji absurdów, a zacznijmy być ekologiczni, zaczniemy być prawdziwie ekologiczni. Dziękuję bardzo.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Pani Maląg, pani Maląg, there's a question on your name from Mr. Siepert, do you accept?
Moment, moment, okej.
Lukas Sieper
Vielen Dank, Frau Kollegin, dass Sie die blaue Karte akzeptiert haben. Ich denke, Sie und ich, wir sind uns bei einigen Themen einig, bei anderen Themen sind wir uns nicht einig. Nun, wenn ich die Übersetzung korrekt verstanden habe, dann haben Sie diejenigen, die sich nicht einig mit Ihnen sind, als kranke Ideologie bezeichnet. Sie haben etwas mehr Lebenserfahrung als ich. Sind Sie der Meinung, dass es im politischen Diskurs angemessen und konstruktiv ist, jene, die nicht mit einem übereinstimmen, als mit einer kranken Ideologie besessen zu bezeichnen?
Dankeschön.
Marlena Maląg
Dziękuję panie pośle za pytanie. No niestety muszę stwierdzić, że te tezy, te absurdy, które są wygłaszane wielokrotnie przez Komisję Europejską, ale także na tej sali, niestety są ideologią. My powinniśmy przede wszystkim dbać o to, aby Europa stała się prawdziwie konkurencyjna, stawiać takie rozwiązania i przygotowywać konkretne rozwiązania, abyśmy byli konkurencyjni, aby ludziom się żyło dobrze. Tak naprawdę najcenniejszą wartością dla nas wszystkich jest kapitał ludzki i w niego powinniśmy inwestować.
Dzisiaj ludziom się żyje w Europie coraz gorzej, coraz drożej, ze względu właśnie na te rozwiązania, które wprowadzamy. Dziękuję bardzo.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Dziękujemy. The next speaker is Mr. Rasmus Nordqvist from the Greens/EFA Alliance.
Rasmus Nordqvist
Thank you, Chair. Today it's easier to import virgin polyester than to move European wool around. The textile strategy made a promise: textiles on the European market should be sustainable, recyclable, and to a large extent of recycled fibers. But wool today shows us how far we are from delivering on that promise. We adopted health rules to stop animal disease spreading, rightly so, but wool from perfectly healthy sheep was swept into these same rules.
So in practice, raw wool cannot be sold or moved around like any other farm product can. So instead of becoming a beautiful textile, it is thrown away. And the paradox does not stop at the farm gate, because when wool comes back to us years later as worn-out garments, it hits the second wall: waste legislation. 27 interpretation of what a textile is, if it's waste or it's a resource, and heavy procedures every time feedstock crosses a border to a recycler. Two different rulebooks, the same result: a natural, recyclable material is treated like a liability at both ends of its life.
So meanwhile, cheap fossil-based synthetics that fuel fast fashion circulate freely all around Europe. So the Commission should answer the question put forward on the table today and promise, during this mandate, a specific and proportionate framework for wool, at the same time also deliver on the waste criteria with the Circular Economy Act this fall.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Mr. Nordqvist, there's a blue card on your name from Mr. Jónca. Do you accept?
Bogdan Rzońca
Yes.
Dziękuję bardzo za to, że zechce pan przyjąć moje pytanie. Cenię pana wypowiedzi, wiem, że jest pan ekspertem w sprawach ochrony środowiska, bo wielokrotnie pana słyszałem, pańskie wypowiedzi. Stąd mam krótkie pytanie do pana. No jest wasza grupa bardzo zaangażowana w Komisji Europejskiej, wobec tego macie swoich tam ludzi. Czy co pan na to, jeśli byśmy wszyscy wystąpili z takim projektem, żeby Komisja Europejska przygotowała specjalny grant, który wzięliby naukowcy i zastanowili się nad tym, jak wykorzystać naturalną wełnę, bo uważam, że to jest czyste marnotrawstwo niszczenie naturalnego produktu.
Zatem do pana pytanie, czy poprze pan taki wniosek, żeby Komisja Europejska przygotowała specjalny grant dla naukowców dla wełny, do analizy?
Rasmus Nordqvist
Well, thank you very much for for this question. I think what is important to understand is we have the knowledge. We have the technology. We have the skills. This is about we've done regulation which is not suitable for what we're facing.
So let's just change the regulation around it and use the raw materials as we have done for thousands and thousands of years. We also have the technology skills to do it, so let's scale up this and use European wool also in the fashion industry. We have the knowledge.
Cristian Terheş
Mulțumesc. Stimate domnule comisar, lâna este una dintre cele mai vechi și mai sustenabile resurse naturale ale Europei.
În loc să fie valorificată ca o resursă cu un potențial economic și ecologic semnificativ însă, de 17 ani lâna este considerată în Europa deșeu agricol, ceea ce este o aberație. Dacă se tot vorbește despre economie circulară, lâna este cel mai bun exemplu de produs ce să fie procesat într-o asemenea economie. Înaintașii noștri din România au dat o utilitate economică circulară lânii de mii de ani. Azi însă, din cauza reglementărilor europene aberante, ciobanii din România, de exemplu, efectiv aruncă lâna la gunoi, ceea ce este ilogic. Avem nevoie de modificarea normelor pentru a facilita colectarea, transportul și procesarea lânii.
În același timp, trebuie sprijinite, în special în zonele rurale, investițiile în infrastructura de procesare și reciclare a lânii, ceea ce ar produce mai multe locuri de muncă, ar reduce risipa și ar oferi fermierilor resurse suplimentare de venit. Lâna este regenerabilă, biodegradabilă și reprezintă o alternativă sustenabilă la materialele sintetice. În contextul Pactului Verde European și al economiei circulare, e aberant să fie irosită această resursă naturală doar pentru că birocrații europeni nu știu câte picioare au oile. Mulțumesc.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Mulțumesc. We still have the catch the eye session and I have two names on the catch the eye session. I give the word to Mr. Mularczyk for one minute.
Arkadiusz Mularczyk
Dziękuję. Panie przewodniczący, panie komisarzu, hodowla owiec jest fundamentem wielu terenów górskich w Polsce, w moim kraju, od Podhala, Beskidów przez Bieszczady do Sudetów. To nie tylko produkcja żywności, ochrona krajobrazu, bioróżnorodności, ale również europejskie dziedzictwo kulturowe. Jednakże, jak wiemy, w Polsce hodowcy otrzymują 0,35 euro za kilogram wełny, podczas gdy strzyżenie jednej owcy kosztuje 3,70 euro, co oznacza, że jest to proceder absolutnie nieopłacalny. Naturalny surowiec zatem staje się odpadem, choć Unia promuje gospodarkę o obiegu zamkniętym.
Dlatego, panie komisarzu, moje pytanie jest zasadnicze: jakie konkretne działania podejmie Komisja Europejska, by przywrócić europejskiej wełnie wartość rynkową, poprawić dochody hodowców, ochronić tradycyjne pasterstwo w regionach górskich w Polsce i w całej Europie? To bardzo ważny problem. Jestem akurat posłem wybranym z terenów górskich, spotykam się z tymi sprawami bardzo często i to jest taki apel właśnie parlamentarzysty z terenów górskich o zajęcie się tym problemem przez Komisję Europejską. Dziękuję.
Lukas Sieper
Liebe Menschen Europas, ich freue mich, als letzter Redner dem einen oder anderen hier noch ein paar gute Gedanken mitzugeben in die Sommerpause. Herr Bausemer, ich bewundere ja immer wieder die mentale Akrobatik, die Sie hier betreiben in diesem Plenarsaal. Sie sprachen darüber, dass Abgeordnete ihre Arbeit nicht machen und hier Steuergelder verschwenden. Ich möchte Sie darauf hinweisen, dass Sie selbst nach den offiziellen Daten des Parlaments an 25 % der Abstimmungen in diesem Plenarsaal nicht teilnehmen. Das geht besser.
Ihr Busenfreund, der Herr Dröse, nimmt nur an 7 % der Abstimmungen nicht teil. Ich würde sagen, bevor Sie sich über die Abwesenheit anderer beschweren, sollten Sie den Anteil der Abstimmungen, an denen Sie teilnehmen, etwas erhöhen. Herr Mularczyk, ich möchte Sie darauf hinweisen, dass wir als europäische Abgeordnete Abgeordnete des gesamten europäischen Volkes sind. Wir vertreten hier nicht nur Deutschland, wir vertreten alle Bürgerinnen und Bürger Europas. Frau Kommissarin, wenn Sie sich mit Landwirtinnen und Landwirten unterhalten, dann ist es wichtig, dass diese Menschen das Gefühl bekommen, dass Sie es ehrlich meinen mit dem, was Sie sagen, und deswegen möchte ich Sie bitten, Ihre rhetorischen Fertigkeiten bei dem Ablesen Ihrer Rede etwas zu verbessern.
Vielen lieben Dank.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Vielen Dank. Commissioner, you are welcome to use your rhetoric during your speech, however, and in a convincing and useful way for Europe's farmers.
Dubravka Šuica
Thank you very much. Since this is the last session of this semester, maybe I can also speak a little bit more free, if freedom can be compared at all. I am representing here my colleague Várhelyi who is in charge of this file, but I'll try my best to defend our position. You know that I am Commissioner for Mediterranean, but I am also Commissioner for Demography. So I understand what's going on not only in urban areas but also in rural areas, and this is why I was listening to your proposals and to your concerns very carefully, and I think there is a lot of room to improve what we have been doing.
So I understand and I'll pass the message to my colleagues. So I really want to thank you, Mr. Buda, for your perspectives. The debate was very constructive so far as I could hear from across the plenary. I think there was, I understood your political messages, but in fact there was support for farmers from all of you and for high standards of animal health, which can open pathways for wool producers. You know, we as the Commission, we share the same position.
We are not two sides. So we want farmers to be able to sell their wool while also maintaining animal health standards. And now a few defensives. While several farmers may dispose of wool as waste, that is not required by the Regulation number 1069 through 2009. First, second, the Animal By-products Regulation provides for a specific and proportionate regulatory framework for wool to mitigate public and animal health risk.
Within that framework of that regulation, several options exist for alternative uses as fertilizers and even others, what is suggested in your oral question. I can understand the urgency. This is why alongside with the Commissioner Hansen, who is Commissioner for Agriculture, he is also involved here, we support acceleration of practical pilots and knowledge exchange such as the CAP Network Focus Group, which is very important, and workable solution can start before new rules are in place. But let's see. I agree that the methods need to be, need to better reflect issues such as microplastic release and biogenic carbon.
The Commission is working on the revision of the environmental footprint methods to address or improve several issues that have been identified in the last year, including the wool sector. On rural areas once again, knowing that rural areas cover 80% geographically of Europe, only 20% are urban areas. But the number of population is vice versa. So only one third of European population live in rural areas and two thirds in urban areas. So we have to somehow balance this.
And just to make you aware, the third demography report will be, will be issued on the 14th of, on the 14th of July, on next Tuesday, and I can already know some results. The problem is that population, it's not, it's not number of population in Europe, but it's about how the population is distributed. And this is the key problem. What are we going to do with this? So we have to work in order to improve environment and life for the people who live in rural areas in order to attract not those who, they have right to stay according to Letta report, you know, it's not about right to stay, it's about how to attract newcomers there.
And this is what all of us, this is our responsibility and your responsibility. So we have to work together. So we are ready to explore support for innovation and the new or modernized European wool processing, and of course including cooperative projects that keep value in, as I said, rural areas where there is a clear market potential. We are advancing with the development of ecodesign requirements, which are expected in 2027, in order to improve the environmental sustainability of apparel textile products. Although most, I know that I'm running out of time, but only one to two minutes because we are among the last.
Although most textile products are made of polyester and cotton, products composed of wool may also be included in the scope of this initiative. The impact assessment may consider wool in the overall assessment of possible recycled content requirements and requirements on the content of bio-based fibers. Other measures could also apply to apparel textile products containing wool fibers. And to Maria Walsh, you asked about pellet, and regarding the use of wool as fertilizer pellets, the competent authorities can already authorize this at national level, I have to tell you, under the animal by-product rules. To conclude, the Commission will analyze the final results of the focus group, which we already mentioned.
The Commission will also continue to monitor new treatments, new technologies, new uses and innovations that mitigate risks. And we are ready to enact these outcomes into the corresponding implementing regulation. This is what you asked, if necessary after a risk assessment by the European Food Safety Authority. Thank you so much and have a nice summer vacation.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Thank you, Madam Commissioner, and thank you, colleagues, for this very important debate on the future framework for wool. Thank you for participating. The debate is now closed. We still have one point on the agenda, and that is explanations of vote. And the first one is on fezabilitatea celui de-al 28-lea regim de impozitare și potențialul său de sprijinire a competitivității UE, și vorbește domnul Terheș Cristian.
Cristian Terheş
Is working? Cool. Am votat împotriva raportului privind fezabilitatea celui de-al 28-lea regim de impozitare, deoarece nu cred că Uniunea Europeană are nevoie de încă un regim fiscal suprapus peste sistemele fiscale ale statelor membre. Sub pretextul simplificării pentru întreprinderi, acest raport deschide calea către o centralizare fiscală tot mai accentuată, care nu va face economia europeană mai competitivă. Realitatea este simplă: companiile europene nu cer noi reguli, ele cer mai puțină birocrație, taxe mai mici și un cadru legislativ stabil și predictibil.
Nu lipsa unui nou regim fiscal împiedică investițiile, ci excesul de reglementare și povara administrativă pe care UE continuă să le impună mediului de afaceri. Politica fiscală trebuie să rămână în competența statelor membre.
Concurența fiscală loială stimulează investițiile, inovarea și dezvoltarea economică. Uniformizarea fiscală nu va face UE mai puternică, ci mai puțin flexibilă și mai puțin competitivă. Dacă vrem o Uniune capabilă să facă față competiției economice globale, trebuie să avem curajul să reducem birocrația, să diminuăm povara fiscală și să lăsăm statele membre să adopte politicile economice care răspund cel mai bine propriilor provocări. Mulțumesc.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Următoarea explicație a votului se referă la comunicarea comună privind ajutorul umanitar. Prima este domnul Günther Sidl.
Günther Sidl
Sehr geehrter Herr Präsident, wir leben in einer Welt, in der das Völkerrecht immer weiter durch das Recht des Stärkeren ersetzt wird. In einer Welt, in der statt Politik und Diplomatie immer öfter die Waffen sprechen und in der inzwischen 239 Millionen Menschen auf humanitäre Hilfe angewiesen sind. Da darf die Europäische Union nicht wegschauen. Im Gegenteil, die EU als größtes Friedensprojekt in der Geschichte hat hier eine besondere Aufgabe. Wir müssen helfen und daran arbeiten, die Welt wieder zu einem stabileren Ort zu machen, wo das Völkerrecht wieder mehr zählt als die Drohgebärden irgendwelcher Machthaber.
Deshalb unterstütze ich diese Resolution, mit der sich unser gemeinsames Europa seiner globalen Verantwortung stellt. Herzlichen Dank.
Katri Kulmuni
Arvoisa puhemies, maailma täytyy ottaa sellaisena kuin se on. On nimittäin niin, että me täällä Euroopassa emme ehkä aina muista aivan täysin, miten vaikeissa olosuhteissa monet maailman ihmisistä joutuvat elämänsä rakentamaan ja selviytymään päivästä toiseen. Näinpä äänestin tarkistuksen 13 puolesta, koska uskonnollisista ryhmistä kristityt, ja tietenkin kristityiksi kääntyvät, kokevat kyllä eniten vainoa maailmassa uskonnollisista ryhmistä, ja unohdamme sen ehkä täällä aika helposti. Maailmassa on toki muitakin uskonnon takia vainottuja ryhmiä, kuten rohingyat Myanmarissa tai erilaiset vähemmistöuskonnot Pakistanissa ja osassa Intiaa. Samoin äänestin tarkistuksen 5 puolesta, koska mielestäni EU:n on kyllä tehtävä voitavansa sen puolesta, että EU:n rahoittamat hankkeet ja humanitäärinen apu menevät todella perille sinne, minne niiden kuuluukin mennä, tapahtuipa nämä hirvittävät onnettomuudet ja humanitäärinen hätä ja apu missä päin maailmaa tahansa.
Lukas Sieper
Dear colleagues, especially after the recent US aid cuts, the European commitment to humanitarian aid has become crucial for millions of people across the world. Conflicts, climate change, and economic factors drive millions of people in various countries into utterly precarious situations. While we can go back to our safe homes at night, millions of people across the world do not have this privilege. Millions of people across the globe do not know if they will have a proper meal today, and many people across the globe have no access to basic necessities. We must act now and we must not leave the people in need alone.
Even though I believe it is our human responsibility to help these people in need, I would like to say one thing to all the critics of humanitarian aid. We need to invest in humanitarian aid not only because it's a human thing to do, but also for our own interest. If we do not invest properly where needed, we will face the consequences of our inaction in form of mass migration, global health pandemics, or detrimental economic impacts. I thank to all of my colleagues who have voted in favor and I did too on this joint communication statement today. And if I may ask one humanitarian favor from this Parliament before the summer, I would really love to also be able to get a coffee in the plenary after the summer break.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Dacă nu există obiecții, voi transmite rezoluțiile adoptate în cadrul ședinței de azi persoanelor și organismelor menționate în rezoluții. Următoarea perioadă de sesiune va avea loc între 14 și 17 septembrie 2026 la Strasbourg. I have the honor, even though the room is eerily empty, just to say thank you to the members, to their assistants, to their staff of the European Parliament, to everyone involved, to officials, to interpreters, to DG ITEC, to the personnel working in the restaurants, in the cafes, cleaning staff and everyone making the European Parliament what it is. Also thank you to the public for watching us, holding us to account. With that, I conclude the session.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
Thank you. Procesul-verbal al acestei reuniuni va fi înaintat Parlamentului spre aprobare la începutul viitoarei sale reuniuni.
Sesiunea Parlamentului European se suspendă, ședința este închisă, o vară cât mai frumoasă.