Justice and Home Affairs Committee

2 September 2025

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Justice and Home Affairs Committee House of Lords

13:26 - 13:51
Speaker 1
Welcome everybody to this session of the Justice and Home Affairs Select Committee on our very first evidence session on our inquiry into electronic monitoring, and we're delighted to have two very distinguished witnesses before us.  And just to get it on the record, I'd be grateful if you could both introduce yourselves and your involvement in electronic monitoring. 
13:51 - 14:03
Speaker 2
Certainly, if I may, my name's Alex Shawk.  I'm a former Law Chancellor in the Secretary of State for Justice, and I was involved in the acquisitive offender program, first as a junior minister and then lastly... 
14:03 - 14:42
Speaker 3
As Secretary of State.  Bernard Haugenhelp, member of this house, previously commissioned of the Metropolitan Police, where, together with Kit Malt House, one of Alex's predecessors, we started the first pilot of sobriety tagging in this country, building on the experience of America, which had sobriety work but not using electronic tagging.  Its version required people who were drink drivers every day of the year to be breath tested, with the penalty of one day in prison if they failed.  And Kip managed to find an electronic system that did the same without bringing them in. 
14:42 - 15:09
Speaker 1
The police stations.  Thank you very much for that.  Can I just remind all colleagues to ask any questions clearly?  If you have any interest to declare, please do so at the start of any questioning.  Just to get us started, it'd be really interesting to know a little bit more about what you've already started, Lord Hoag and Howe, in relation to your involvement with electronic monitoring. 

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