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2 December 2025

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Claire Chandler questions DTA officials on their supporting role in government cybersecurity, coordination with Home Affairs and ASD, and evolving plans to address AI‑exacerbated cyber threats across government systems.

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DTA — government cybersecurity, marketplaces and workforce

00:00

DTA — cybersecurity role and AI-driven risks

00:00

MyGov scams — DTA support to Services Australia

02:43

Foreign ownership, FIRB and hosting certification

05:12

Marketplace panels and Pioneer Computers query

06:53

Digital workforce uplift and reliance on consultants

08:28

Closing DTA segment and transition to ASC

13:37

ASC — impact of Defence Delivery Agency changes

15:03

ASC — reaction to new Defence Delivery Agency

15:03

ASC — engagement with CASG, NSSG, ASA and AUKUS

18:07

Farewell to ASC CEO and committee break

21:23

ANI — shipyard ownership and DDA implications

25:21

ANI — Osborne Naval Shipyard and nuclear sub yard timeline

25:21

ANI — implications of Defence Delivery Agency

27:38

CEA Technologies — GBE acquisition, governance and DDA

32:57

CEA Technologies — GBE transition and sovereign radar capability

32:57

CEA — CEO recruitment, ownership structure and purchase price

37:11

CEA acquisition — national interest rationale and valuation

39:41

CEA — no other defence GBEs and DDA briefing

43:41

CEA — CASG relationship and governance structure

44:54

Commonwealth Superannuation Corporation — ESG, Reliance exposure and super tax

53:11

CSC — exposure to Reliance Industries and sanctions risk

53:11

CSC — ESG exclusions and risk‑based approach

56:44

CSC — reassessing Reliance holdings and policy triggers

01:00:17

CSC — modeling impact of 3m super tax and hearing close

01:05:40

Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee (part 3 of 3)

2 December 2025

Senate Finance and Public Administration Legislation Committee Tue, 2 Dec 2025 Australian Parliament

00:00 - 00:17

Speaker 6

Is, pursuing. That's probably still all of the same, the same witnesses that we have up here at the table. What are you doing, in terms of integrating cybersecurity across Europe?

00:17 - 00:22

Speaker 65

So the the DTO has a supporting role in the delivery of cybersecurity capabilities within government.

00:22 - 00:23

Yeah.

00:23 - 00:53

Speaker 48

So we work closely with, the Department of Home Affairs. So when there are proposals that have a cyber component to them, the DTA manages the input of all those, and then we use the Department of Home Affairs to explicitly evaluate the value that that investment would make in terms of cyber. Mhmm. We, routinely, work with the Department of Home Affairs and the Australian signals directorate to incorporate technical specifications into our areas.

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