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PLENARY European Parliament
Follow its sittingsRoberta Metsola
Now, dear colleagues, last month this house mourned the passing of another great European, the former member and president of this house, Klaus Hänsch. We remember him as a principled and courageous European who steered this Parliament through a time of profound change for our Union. He worked tirelessly to bring this house closer to Europeans and was a lifelong champion of a more ambitious, united Europe with democracy at its center. His legacy lives on every day in this house and we will remember him. And I ask you now to please join me in a moment of silence.
So dear colleagues, the session adjourned on the 9th of July is reopened. The minutes and the texts adopted of the sitting of that date are available. Are there any comments? No, therefore the minutes are approved. It has now been, dear colleagues, four months since the Council unanimously adopted our proposal to amend the EU Electoral Act to make sure that no member of this House loses her right to vote just because she is pregnant or a new mother.
Thank you.
The ball is now in Member States and their national parliaments' courts to ratify the changes. So far, I'm happy to announce that Denmark, Bulgaria, Luxembourg and Greece have all completed this process. Ireland, Latvia, Portugal, Romania and Sweden have also confirmed that they are taking the final steps towards ratification. We thank them for their action and we call on all other Member States and national parliaments to ratify this revision as swiftly as possible.
And can I please ask you, dear colleagues, to keep up the pressure at home so that elected representatives are no longer forced to choose between having a family and fulfilling their mandate. Now, following the resignations of Sebastian Everding and Pål Sekeres, and on the proposal of the Committee on Legal Affairs, Parliament takes note of the vacancies of their seats from 13th and 14th September 2026 respectively, in accordance with the Rules of Procedure and will inform the national authorities concerned thereof. Parliament verifies the credentials of Norbert Herrhammer with effect from 11th June 2026 and of Ufuk Kahya with effect from 30th June 2026. Welcome, dear colleagues. The competent authorities of Greece have addressed a request to me for the parliamentary immunity of Nikolaos Pappandreou to be waived.
And the competent authorities of Spain have addressed a request to me for the parliamentary immunity of Alvise Pérez to be waived. These requests are referred to the Committee on Legal Affairs. The EPP, S&D, PfE and ECR groups have notified me of decisions relating to changes to appointments within committees and delegations. These decisions will be set out on the minutes of today's sitting and take effect on the date of this announcement. The ECON, JURI, AGRI and ITRE committees have decided to enter into interinstitutional negotiations pursuant to Rule 72, paragraph 1 of our Rules.
The reports which constitute the mandates for the negotiations are available on the plenary webpage and the titles will be published in the minutes of the sitting. Pursuant to Rule 72, paragraph 2, members of political groups reaching at least the medium threshold may request in writing by tomorrow, Tuesday, the 15th of September at midnight, that the decisions be put to the vote. If no request for a vote in Parliament is made within the deadline, the committees may start negotiations. The LIBE and IMCO committees have transmitted three corrigenda to a text adopted by the Parliament pursuant to Rule 251(4). These corrigenda will be deemed approved unless no later than 24 hours after its announcement, a request is made by a political group or members reaching at least the low threshold that it be put to the vote.
The corrigenda are available on the plenary webpage and their titles will be published in the minutes of the sitting.
I would also like to inform you that since the adjournment of Parliament's session on the 9th of July, I have signed together with the President of the Council three acts under the ordinary legislative procedure in accordance with Rule 81: empowering Austria to amend its bilateral road transport with Switzerland, exceptional temporary support under the EAFRD, the use of technologies by providers of number-independent interpersonal communication services. I would also like to inform you that on Wednesday I shall sign together with the President of the Council two acts under the ordinary legislative procedure: the common rules on compensation and assistance to passengers in the event of denied boarding and of cancellation or long delay of flights, and the Union Customs Code and the European Union Customs Authority. We now come to the order of business. The final draft agenda as adopted by the Conference of Presidents on 9th of September pursuant to Rule 163 has been distributed. This is a big week for us and for Europe.
On Wednesday at 9 o'clock, President von der Leyen will debate with us in the State of the European Union session. And then on Thursday at half past 11, Prime Minister of Canada Mark Carney will speak to us in a formal address in this chamber. These are important moments for our Union and I truly count on your presence. Now, last few points. Last week, the Conference of Presidents decided to maintain the following key measures to ensure our plenary sessions are made more accessible, effective, and allow for better organization of members' work.
We will have fixed start and end timings for debates. This will require everyone to continue to respect allocated speaking time. This applies to us and to other institutions.
Plenary sittings will have a fixed ending time at 8 o'clock to allow for further meetings and parliamentary work. Any items added at the opening of the part-session will be scheduled during an extended stop slot held from 8 to 9. Council and Commission will continue to be able to intervene spontaneously during debates. On Tuesday at 3 o'clock, a debate with the Commission will be scheduled with the presentation of a proposal adopted in the College meeting on the same day, or a question time with the Commission. Blue cards and catch-the-eye will be allowed with more flexibility.
These changes will mean that the special format for key debates with randomized speakers' list will no longer be needed and therefore be discontinued, and rules on personal statements will continue to be enforced. So let me take this opportunity to remind you that tomorrow and on Wednesday, debates will start immediately after the votes, and once again, I thank you for your cooperation and for your efforts. It is your contribution that made this initiative a success. Now, I'd like to inform you that I have received a request for an urgent procedure from the ENVI Committee pursuant to Rule 170, paragraph 5, on revised heat and fuel benchmark values for 2026 to 2030. The vote on this request will be taken tomorrow, and if adopted, the vote will be held at a future part-session.
With the agreement of the political groups I wish to put to the house the following proposal for a change to the final draft agenda. On Wednesday after the vote the following item will be added to the votes: objection pursuant to rule 115 2 3 and 4c maximum residue levels for flupyradifurone. The deadlines are: amendments today at 7:00, splits and separates tomorrow at 4:00. We now move to changes requested by political groups for today. The Greens group has requested that a commission statement on brutal government crackdown on LGBTQI+ community in Türkiye be added as the last item before the one-minute speeches.
So as a consequence the sitting would be extended to 9:00 PM. I have also received an alternative title from the S&D group. I understand that a compromise was reached but I need you to confirm between the two groups on the following title: government crackdown on the LGBTQI+ community in Türkiye, Türkiye's compliance with its international commitments on non-discrimination. I give the floor to Terry Reintke to move the request.
Colleagues, my family in Türkiye is not safe. Over the weekend we have seen unprecedented attacks on the LGBTQI community in Türkiye. A wave of arrests, we are now speaking about more than 160 activists.
Terry Reintke
Raids in homes, in clubs, in offices of civil society organizations. That is completely unacceptable. And this Parliament has to take a clear stance against this new authoritarian wave in Türkiye. If we do not speak up now, colleagues, this will continue and the LGBTQI community in Türkiye will be further targeted. We owe it to them, to my chosen family and to our friends in Türkiye, that we speak up.
And that is why we are proposing a debate with the proposed title, but we are also very happy with the compromise that has been found. So please let us add this item to the agenda tonight. Thank you very much.
Roberta Metsola
Thank you very much, Ms. Reintke. So let's put this request to a vote by show of hands. Who is in favor? Who is against? Who abstains?
Okay, approved, and therefore the sitting is extended to nine. Now, also for today, the Left group has requested that Council and Commission statements on the ECB's decision to raise interest rates and its impact on the rising cost of living be added as the last item now today before the one-minute speeches.
So I give the floor to Mr João Oliveira to move the request on behalf of the Left group.
João Oliveira
Obrigado, Presidente. A decisão do Banco Central Europeu aumentar as taxas de juro é uma decisão com consequências graves e o Parlamento Europeu não deve passar-lhe ao lado. Esta decisão não ataca as causas reais do atual quadro inflacionário, mas penaliza duplamente os trabalhadores e as populações com o aumento do custo de vida, atinge as pequenas e médias empresas que veem dificultado o acesso ao financiamento e, simultaneamente, favorece a banca e o setor financeiro que continuarão a avolumar os lucros que vão recolhendo. Para combater o atual quadro inflacionário, é preciso travar a agressão dos Estados Unidos ao Irão e a desestabilização do Médio Oriente que faz aumentar os preços dos combustíveis, que perturba os circuitos internacionais de abastecimentos. É preciso travar o aumento do custo de vida que os povos estão a sofrer com o aumento da energia e dos combustíveis e dos bens essenciais, a que agora se acrescenta o aumento dos custos com a habitação.
É preciso regular preços e impedir o aumento dos custos com a habitação e, naturalmente, distribuir também os lucros que a banca está a avolumar para que o custo e o fardo sobre os povos não cresça.
Roberta Metsola
Okay, thank you very much, Mr Oliveira. Does anybody want to speak against this request? No, therefore, I put the request to the vote by roll call.
Vote is open. Vote is closed. Okay, it's rejected and therefore the agenda remains unchanged. So the agenda is adopted and the order of business is thus established. I'll go to the points of order next.
Just before that, I have received from the Council its position at first reading establishing the Union Customs Code and the European Union Customs Authority. I've also received the reasons which led to its adoption and the Commission's position, and the full title will be published in the minutes of today's sitting. The three-month period available to Parliament to adopt its position begins tomorrow, 15th September. So I'll give the floor first to Mr. Martusciello.
Fulvio Martusciello
Sì, Presidente, velocemente. Lei ha ricordato una straordinaria italiana, Emma Bonino, che è mancata l'11 settembre. In quel giorno è mancato anche un altro italiano di cui siamo tutti quanti noi orgogliosi.
Non le chiedo assolutamente un minuto di silenzio perché se ci vedesse da lassù ci direbbe: "Che fate lì fermi? Andate a lavorare!". Raffaele Costa è stato uno straordinario Ministro della Sanità, dei Trasporti, delle Politiche Comunitarie ed è stato nostro collega. E devo dire, dall'11 settembre, con queste due dipartite, sicuramente il nostro Paese, l'Italia, è molto più povera. Quindi noi siamo davvero orgogliosi di averli avuti come nostri rappresentanti nel nostro Paese.
Grazie, onorevole Martusciello, ci associamo con le condoglianze. I give the floor next to Mr. Alvise Pérez.
Alvise Pérez
Muchas gracias, Presidenta. Esta semana debatimos en este Parlamento la libertad de prensa de Hong Kong, pero el Ministerio del Interior de un Estado miembro como es España ha elaborado un documento con 280 periodistas clasificados por su ideología y por su posición ante el Gobierno de Pedro Sánchez, a unos para señalarlos, a otros para premiarlos con programas, con sueldos y con información privilegiada. Yo mismo he denunciado ante la justicia española y ante la Comisión Europea el pasado 9 de septiembre no solo esta lista ilegal del Gobierno español, sino también seguimientos ilegales del Gobierno a algunos miembros de la oposición de nuestro país.
Esta Cámara aprobó el Reglamento Europeo de Libertad de los Medios para impedir exactamente esto. ¿Qué hacemos? Miramos a Hong Kong pero ignoramos lo que ocurre en Europa. Por eso pido que se incluya de urgencia en el orden del día, presidente. Muchas gracias.
Thank you. Now, Onorevole Dario Nardella.
Dario Nardella
Grazie, Presidente, colleghi. Pochissimi giorni fa, vicino Firenze, la mia città, una donna di 45 anni, Lorena, è stata brutalmente uccisa dal suo ex compagno che l'ha scaraventata dal viadotto di un'autostrada. È il femminicidio numero 34 in Italia, dove l'86% degli omicidi di donne avviene per mano di un partner o di un familiare. E in Europa, 19 Stati su 27 comunicano in modo coerente i dati sul femminicidio. Gli altri non lo fanno.
Per questo questo Parlamento, colleghi, deve vigilare sulla Commissione e gli Stati membri affinché la direttiva del 2024 sia pienamente attuata entro giugno dell'anno prossimo, anche alla luce della storica risoluzione che abbiamo approvato a larghissima maggioranza, nonostante in quest'aula vi siano membri come quelli del gruppo delle Nazioni Sovrane, come ad esempio Roberto Vannacci, che sostengono che il femminicidio non esista e che ci vogliono far tornare a mezzo secolo fa, al tempo del diritto del delitto d'onore. Per questo dobbiamo impegnarci sempre di più per rispetto di quelle migliaia di donne che ogni giorno vivono nell'angoscia e chiedono protezione e riconoscimento dalle istituzioni. Grazie.
Grazie, onorevole Arnadella. Now I give the floor to Alexander Jungbluth.
Alexander Jungbluth
Sehr geehrte Frau Präsidentin, ich beziehe mich auf Artikel 10 Absatz 1 der Geschäftsordnung in Verbindung mit den Demokratieprinzip des Artikels 2 EUV. Der grüne Abgeordnete Daniel Freund hat bereits vor der Regierungsbildung in Sachsen-Anhalt das potenzielle Einfrieren von EU-Mitteln gefordert im Falle einer AfD-Regierung. Er begründet dies unter anderem damit, dass eine Schlechterstellung in Form von Sanktionen zu einem genehmen Regierungswechsel führen könnte. Seine Forderung stellt damit einen erheblichen Eingriff gegen demokratische Prozesse dar. Besonders kritisch ist der Vorschlag, wenn man bedenkt, dass aus den EU-Mitteln unter anderem Schulrenovierungen und Kindertagesstätten unterstützt werden, was Herrn Freund als Haushaltspolitiker sehr wohl bekannt sein sollte.
Es scheint offenbar der Wunsch zu sein, Schüler und Kinder schlechter zu stellen, weil einem die potenzielle Regierung nicht passt.
Auf dem Rücken der Schwächsten wird versucht, durch juristische Spielchen Einfluss auf Wahlen zu nehmen. Das ist schäbig und diese Erpressung durch die Grünen werden sich die Bürger in Sachsen-Anhalt nicht bieten lassen.
Roberta Metsola
Thank you, Mr. Jungbluth. Since you mentioned a colleague directly, he has a right to respond. So, Mr. Freund, you have the floor.
Daniel Freund
Danke, Frau Vorsitzende. Ich wusste nicht, dass wir hier Anträge zur Geschäftsordnung machen können, wenn uns die Meinung eines Kollegen nicht passt. Aber wo wir jetzt schon hier sind, ich habe einfach nur daran erinnert, dass es ein sehr klares EU-Recht gibt. Ich kann Ihnen nur empfehlen, schauen Sie mal in die Haushaltsordnung der Europäischen Union. Wenn man sich nicht an die Grundwerte und an die Gesetze der Union hält, dann verwirkt man auch das Recht für EU-Gelder.
Das ist völlig klare Gesetzeslage, hat nichts mit Wahlen oder so zu tun. Aber wenn man eben ein Wahlprogramm schreibt, was verspricht, die EU-Werte zu brechen, und auch nicht nur ein- oder zweimal, sondern systematisch, na ja, dann steht einem im Zweifel dieselbe Konsequenz aus, die die Kollegen Viktor Orbán oder auch die Regierung von Herrn Kaczyński in Polen eben auch schon erfahren haben. Und sollte die AfD in Sachsen-Anhalt an die Macht kommen, dann dient auch das, was den Kinderschutz angeht, kann ich nur empfehlen, Sie haben einen Parteikollegen, der Kinder mit Baseballschlägern angreift. Vielleicht sollten Sie sich darum kümmern, als hier so Geschäftsordnungsanträge zu stellen. Vielen Dank.
Fabio De Masi
Now, Mr. Fabio De Masi.
Okay, thank you.
Frau Präsidentin, ich beziehe mich auf Artikel 167 der Geschäftsordnung. Die Ukraine versinkt immer mehr im Chaos. Ein Generalstaatsanwalt, der selbst der Korruption beschuldigt wurde, hat sich außer Landes abgesetzt. Es gab Schusswechsel zwischen Sicherheitsbehörden und jetzt hat man die ehemalige Pressesprecherin von Herrn Selenskyj sanktioniert durch Herrn Selenskyj, weil sie sich gegen eine NATO-Perspektive der Ukraine ausgesprochen hat, weil sie sich für den Frieden engagiert und weil sie sich gegen die Zwangsrekrutierung junger Männer ausgesprochen hat. Dabei hat sie immer die Angriffe Russlands auch verurteilt.
Und ich finde, wenn solche Zustände in der Ukraine herrschen, wenn sie sich immer mehr zu einem Mafiastaat entwickelt, dann muss dieses Europäische Parlament nicht einfach immer nur mit dem Kopf weitere Milliarden abnicken, sondern dies endlich in das Zentrum der Debatte stellen. Vielen Dank.
I give the floor next to Mr. Gordan Bosanac.
Gordan Bosanac
Thank you, Madam President, colleagues. This point of order is according to Rule 40.
Since 2021, 37,000 tons of PFAS-contained hazardous waste was illegally imported from Slovenia, Italy, and Germany and disposed of in Croatia, in the city of Gospić, the birthplace of Nikola Tesla, the genius inventor of modern electricity. Gospić and Lika County are one of the most beautiful natural preserved parts of Croatia, proud of their clean water and healthy food. Yet, the weak government, weak state inspections, deregulation of national rules, and corruption enabled this pan-European criminal ecocide in the Schengen area. I call us all to show solidarity with citizens of Gospić. I call immediately to stop toxic waste export to Croatia and to help with urgent waste cleanup processes.
We shall not allow Croatia or any member state to become an EU toxic waste landfill. Thank you very much.
Jonas Sjöstedt
Thank you. Now Mr. Jonas Sjöstedt.
Madam President, three weeks ago, my colleague Hanna Gedin and I were due to travel on a parliamentary mission to the Israeli-occupied West Bank and to East Jerusalem. We were scheduled to meet with Save the Children and the EU mission, visit refugee camps, and meet with Palestinian as well as Israeli human rights organizations. Although we had obtained authorization to enter Israel, we were denied entry.
The Foreign Minister Gideon Sa'ar justified the decision on the grounds that we have criticized Israel's extensive abuses and genocide against Palestinians. I would first like to thank you and your cabinet for the swift and firm support you provided when Israel took this unacceptable decision. However, I would also like you as President to consider what further measures this Parliament should take in response to Israel's systematically preventing parliamentarians from entering the occupied Palestinian territories. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Sjöstedt. Next, I give the floor to Mr. Sebastian Kraus.
Sebastian Kruis
Well, yes, thank you very much, Madame President. Under Rule 40, like every Strasbourg session, you keep coming up with new ways to make our debates more engaging. But here's a better idea: get rid of the ridiculous rule that lets members refuse a blue card question. It's unbelievable. The left side of this chamber acts like an applause machine.
They clap on cue. They cheer each other on like a squad of North Korean cheerleaders. But the moment someone asks them to defend what they have just said, then they hide behind a procedural rule and refuse to answer questions. In any parliament worthy of the name, you don't get to dodge accountability. So as long as that absurd rule remains, please stop trying to reinvent our debate, because you have to fix what is broken first.
Roberta Metsola
Okay. So on that note, we stop the points of order. Thank you very much. We'll start with the debate. The next item on the agenda is the joint debate concerning emissions trading, report by Mr. Chahim, carbon border adjustment mechanism, the report by Mr. Canfin, establishing the temporary decarbonisation fund, and the report by Mr. Maran, market stability reserve for the EU ETS, ceasing the invalidation of allowances.
Have a good afternoon. Buonasera colleghi.
Antonella Sberna
L'ordine del giorno reca la discussione congiunta sullo scambio di quote di emissione. La relazione dell'onorevole Chahim, meccanismo di adeguamento del carbonio alle frontiere, estensione del suo ambito di applicazione delle merci a valle e misure antielusione. E la relazione dell'onorevole Canfin, istituzione del fondo temporaneo per la decarbonizzazione. E la relazione dell'onorevole Maran, riserva stabilizzatrice del mercato per il sistema dell'Unione per lo scambio di quote di emissione dei gas a effetto serra, EU ETS, cessazione dell'invalidamento delle quote. Iniziamo il dibattito, prego al primo relatore, onorevole Chahim.
Prego.
Mohammed Chahim
Thank you chair. Let me be frank. A vote tomorrow against CBAM is a vote against European industry and European workers. And I could almost not believe my eyes when I saw that some so-called nationalist groups on the right table have tabled an amendment to reject CBAM altogether. Because rejecting CBAM means rejecting a level playing field.
It means putting the limited interest of large global multinationals above those of the many European industries and workers. And yet, the same people that are skeptical against CBAM come to me and ask whether certain CN codes can be added to the list. Which is a bit strange. Either you're against, or you support it and try to create a situation where our industry is protected. Dear colleagues, you cannot have your cake and eat it too.
And to me, that confirms the quiet part out loud. CBAM works. Look at the world. China, Canada, Türkiye, Japan, South Korea, Morocco, and the list keeps on growing, are putting carbon prices or emission trading systems in place. This shows something very important, that when Europe leads, others follow.
And that is exactly what European citizens and businesses are asking from us. Especially now. And it's something that is making me proud, something that we all should be proud of. CBAM is effective, and with the agreement we vote on tomorrow, it will be even more effective. We strengthen CBAM against circumvention.
We've addressed carbon leakage more thoroughly, and we further strengthen the level playing field for European industry. And crucially for our industry, we find a solution on Article 27a.
This article prevents investments in technologies of the future and punishes those that have already moved ahead. Certainty is essential for investors and businesses, and that's something we should give them. And allowing the Commission through a delegated act and without the Parliament to pause CBAM for certain goods at any given time would undermine precisely that certainty. And that is why from the beginning and across the different opinion-giving committees, the political groups were clear: Article 7 has to go, while addressing the concerns of, for example, the farmers. Instead of creating a disguised subsidy for foreign fertilizers, we keep the mechanism intact and redirect CBAM revenues to affected sectors in case of serious and unforeseen circumstances.
We also found another solution through the temporary decarbonization fund, on which our colleague Pascal Canfin has done excellent work. We extend its scope to agricultural products, and exactly what the groups behind this compromise wanted from the start. So tomorrow, we do take note of who's there and who's missing.
Let's see who's willing to stand up and deliver for industry, workers and farmers. And I expect everyone who is concerned about farmers to call their member states and their permanent representation to urge them to unblock the work on the temporary decarbonization fund in the Council, and to continue the work there as quickly as possible. Finally, I would like to thank all the political groups for their constructive approach during these negotiations. We've reached a fair and balanced agreement, one that protects the industry and workers, reinforces our climate ambition and ensures that the polluters pays. I look forward on the upcoming trilogues so that we can conclude the work on CBAM extension as soon as possible, and provide the much needed certainty for Europe, for the industry, for our investors and especially also for our workers.
Thank you very much.
Pascal Canfin
Merci Madame la Présidente, Monsieur le Commissaire, chers collègues.
Aujourd'hui, c'est un jour important puisque cela fait des années que le Parlement européen demande à ce qu'il y ait, pour protéger nos industriels qui exportent vers des marchés, vers des pays où il n'y a pas de prix du carbone, bien ça fait des années que le Parlement européen demande un outil spécifique pour accompagner nos exportateurs de façon à compenser le désavantage concurrentiel qu'ils subissent en ayant eux un prix du carbone qu'ils payent en Europe sur des marchés à l'export qui n'ont pas de prix du carbone. Ça faisait des années qu'on nous disait que c'était pas possible et puis finalement la Commission européenne a proposé un fonds de décarbonation temporaire qui répond exactement à cet enjeu. Et je suis ravi de voir qu'il y a dans cette enceinte un très large soutien à ce type d'outil, contrairement au Conseil puisque les États membres eux n'avancent pas dans cette négociation. Et j'espère que cette semaine en ayant voté et en ayant voté le plus largement possible en faveur de ce fonds, et bien on enverra un signal très fort. D'ailleurs je note Monsieur le Commissaire que vous n'avez vous-même pas repris un tel mécanisme dans votre nouvelle proposition de marché du carbone.
Je suis très surpris parce que le besoin de protéger nos exportateurs contre la concurrence déloyale liée à l'absence de prix du carbone sur les marchés export va demeurer dans la durée au-delà de ce fonds de décarbonation temporaire qui commence dès que possible, dès que nous l'aurons voté, jusqu'en 2030. Il répond donc ce fonds à un enjeu très clair, une attente des industriels et c'est très bien de donner corps à cette attente. Mais à côté il y a aussi la question des agriculteurs.
Mon collègue Mohammed Chahim vient de d'y faire référence. Nous avons parfaitement conscience que lorsque l'on met en place un prix du carbone sur les engrais qui sont utilisés par les agriculteurs, et bien cela réhausse le prix des engrais même si, et il faut toujours le rappeler, c'est une toute petite partie, une toute petite partie dans l'augmentation qui a été effective l'année dernière du prix des engrais qui a rapport à lié essentiellement au prix du gaz et essentiellement à la crise dans le détroit d'Ormuz et par ailleurs au comportement de la Russie qui maîtrise ce marché du gaz mondial. Donc ne nous trompons pas de combat. La priorité si l'on veut réduire la dépendance aux engrais et à leur évolution sur le prix du mondial, c'est de décarboner notre agriculture et c'est aussi de produire en européen.
Cette réforme du fonds temporaire de décarbonation pour permettre aux agriculteurs qui exportent du blé par exemple, des céréales qui sont donc eux-mêmes en concurrence sur des marchés export par exemple au Moyen-Orient avec des producteurs russes par exemple qui eux ne payent pas le prix du carbone, et bien d'avoir une compensation financière. Non pas en supprimant le mécanisme d'ajustement carbone pour les engrais, non pas en créant une incertitude radicale, radicale qui a été dénoncée par les industriels qui était la proposition initiale de la Commission à savoir donner à la Commission la possibilité de suspendre un secteur à tout moment du champ du CBAM, ruinant ainsi la prévisibilité que le CBAM apporte. Mais sans nier qu'il y a effectivement un problème à résoudre spécifiquement pour nos agriculteurs et le prix des engrais. Et c'est pour ça que la solution que nous avons trouvée tous ensemble, la droite, la gauche, de façon pragmatique, j'espère que nous pourrons la soutenir largement en plénière. Je crois que ce sera le cas, je m'en réjouis car nous pourrons ainsi la négocier fortement dans le cadre des trilogues qui vont commencer avec les autres institutions.
Merci pour votre soutien large. Je pense que sur ce sujet, il ne faut pas faire de politique politicienne, il faut être pragmatique, ambitieux et garder en permanence le cap de la décarbonation comme étant un élément de souveraineté. Et je regrette qu'encore une fois les députés d'extrême droite plutôt que de mener cette bataille et bien préfèrent détruire le CBAM au nom d'une idéologie anti-climat qui est totalement primaire et désuète après l'été que nous venons malheureusement de passer.
Pierfrancesco Maran
Grazie presidente, dear Commissioner, colleagues, 20 years ago Europe did something no one had done before.
It set up the world's first and largest international carbon market. Since then the EU Emissions Trading System has reduced emissions and driven industrial decarbonization. Yet like any system that exists for a long time, it needs to be adapted to a changing world while still reaching its objectives. And this is why we are here today. We are at the beginning of one of the most important debates that will define Europe's climate and industrial policy for the years to come.
We face a challenge: aligning our ambition with the EU's climate target while strengthening the competitiveness of our industry. It's not easy, but we must get it right. At the heart of this debate is the Market Stability Reserve. It plays a key function in the ETS, it's almost like a central bank of emission quotas by preventing price volatility and maintaining market stability. In short, it gives predictability to the ETS.
And this is fundamental because a carbon market that is unpredictable drives industry away without reducing a single ton of CO2.
In April, the Commission proposed to cancel the invalidation mechanism of the reserve, allowing it to grow above the 400 million ceiling. The rationale is clear: to give the carbon market and industries a bit more breathing space. But abolishing the invalidation mechanism entirely without knowing how the ETS system will look like after the reform raises legitimate questions. And while this proposal does not rewrite the ETS, it marks the opening chapter of the comprehensive review of the system. How we handle it will set the tone of the debates that follow.
That's why I am proud and honored to present as rapporteur and ENVI chair the compromise that we found on the ENVI MSR proposal. It consists of two main elements. First, we keep the invalidation mechanism. It stays to avoid excessive oversupply and ensure credibility of the ETS system, but importantly, we raise the invalidation ceiling from 400 to 650 million allowances. This gives the reserve more capacity and flexibility to respond to shocks.
Second, we delay entry into force of this new ceiling. Having a clear starting date, and we propose the 1st of March 2027, will give clarity and smooth the transition. These are the elements of the deal that we have shaped with political groups and shadow rapporteurs, who I thank for their work. It's a deal that presents a pragmatic and balanced solution and has received strong support in the ENVI committee. But importantly, the compromise that I present to you today strikes the right balance that we should aim for the broader ETS review, keeping the ETS credible as a climate instrument and make it work for European industry.
Decarbonization and competitiveness should not be seen as opposing goals. They are not. Colleagues, the ETS revision is one of the defining industrial and climate policies debate of this legislature. Today's vote on the MSR is the first step. I therefore ask you to vote in favor of our text in plenary tomorrow and give us a clear mandate to start the negotiation with member states.
Let's set the right tone for the discussion ahead. Thank you.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie, onorevole Maran. Ora a nome della Commissione, prego Commissario Extra.
Wopke Hoekstra
Thank you very much, President. Do you think we can make this even higher? Is that possible? Or is this the max we can do? Excellent, thank you.
Merci, monsieur. Apologies. It's as I said to you before, drinking too much milk and that's what you get. Signora Presidente, honorable members, very good to see you and many thanks to the three rapporteurs for elaborating on the three different instruments that we have in front of us. Different but all I would argue with a very common purpose: keeping Europe on track in terms of its decarbonization and at the same time safeguard our industries' competitiveness and making sure we don't see any carbon leakage.
And please allow me to briefly speak on all three of them. First on CBAM. Truly a key instrument for advancing Europe's clean industrial transition.
And by addressing the risk of carbon leakage, it strengthens clearly the EU's competitiveness, it supports investments in decarbonization and of course it reinforces our strategic independence. It brings all those three elements hand in hand. Now last December, with the help of this Parliament, the Commission has already proposed to radically simplify the design and we have succeeded together on that one. And we've also proposed to strengthen CBAM and that is the proposal Mr. Sahim just spoke about. We proposed extending CBAM to certain steel and aluminum intensive downstream products, reinforcing our anti-circumvention measures and importantly adjusting electricity rules.
We put forward this proposal after truly extensive discussions, collaborations, interactions with industry, which have made, I'm sure also through the esteemed members of this house, crystal clear that CBAM contained too many loopholes to be fully effective. Madam Chair, let me please turn now to the temporary decarbonization fund. Here as well, in December 2025, we have proposed this fund and we did so to provide temporary support for decarbonization in 2026 and in 2027.
It is aimed specifically at operators of EU ETS installations producing CBAM goods that are still considered to face a higher risk of carbon leakage. So, EU producers will need to show they are taking steps to decarbonise to receive support, while the funding can then help to invest in the long-term decarbonisation of their production. In my view, this proposal strikes a delicate balance between ensuring that the fund is effective, while at the same time limiting administrative burden for operators, as it should. And this is achieved by aligning the fund's management with existing EU ETS infrastructure and processes. Now, on both the files, while we still reserve as a Commission our position on the different amendments at this stage, we very much welcome Parliament's overall support and the speed at which it has adopted its report.
Allow me to once again emphasize that for this revision, speed continues to be of the essence. We do many things well in Europe, we typically do them too slowly.
So it is key to start the trilogue negotiations as early as possible with a view of reaching a political agreement well before the end of this calendar year. Without such an agreement, let me be clear on that as well, there is a risk, there is a risk that the downstream extension simply cannot enter into force on January 1st, 2028 as planned. Madam Chair, third, the market stability reserve. Could I say that has been a real success? It has helped clear the historical surplus of allowances and it has, frankly speaking, been essential to keeping the EU carbon market functioning well.
At the same time, market conditions are becoming tighter. So the MSR therefore needs to evolve as well. And to that end, the Commission has come forward with a targeted amendment to the MSR decision that would end the invalidation of allowances. A sufficiently large MSR is needed in our view as a buffer for both liquidity and also stability.
It allows the EU ETS to manage changing market conditions by withdrawing allowances where there is a significant surplus while still keeping enough capacity to respond if scarcity emerges. And of course it also helps addressing excessive price fluctuations in case we would see them. Under the current rules, however, allowances above the 400 million threshold continue to be permanently invalidated. At the same time, future intakes into the reserve are expected to decline substantially. And this further highlights the importance of preserving the allowances already in the reserve rather than continuing to invalidate them.
So honorable members, to wrap up. Across these three files, I would argue that our objective is the same. A carbon market that delivers decarbonization, that strengthens European competitiveness and gives investment certainty. And that is always the request of all of our companies. And we would very much like to thank all the three rapporteurs for their great work and their reports in my view demonstrate our shared determination to make CBAM and the temporary decarbonization fund effective instruments as well as to ensure that the MSR has enough firepower now and in the near future.
Thank you very much.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie Commissario.
Prego, onorevole Boylan, per la commissione per il commercio internazionale. Prego.
Lynn Boylan
I drank milk, but I didn't grow. President, colleagues and Commissioner, as left shadow for CBAM and TDF and rapporteur for the INTA opinion, I would like to take the opportunity to thank both the rapporteurs for their commitment. I think we have had a strong agreement on key points where we expand the CBAM without undermining it, and we also bring more global justice to the CBAM. We believe in this policy, but we need others around the world to believe in it too. So we have included clear signals to trade partners that CBAM is not punitive or protectionist, but a true climate measure.
And this means commitments on technical assistance, removing barriers to SMEs in least developed countries and leading global cooperation on decarbonisation. Most importantly, we maintain the Parliament's call that moneys under CBAM and TDF can be used as a source of additional climate finance. The climate crisis demands that we start to deliver on climate finance and technology sharing going to developing countries.
This is why CBAM must be accompanied by new climate finance to make it a real global climate action measure. Thank you.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie onorevole, onorevole Gomez Lopez per la commissione per i bilanci. Prego.
Sandra Gómez López
Gracias presidenta. Permitidme que ponga el acento en el que en el debate de hoy va más allá de política climática. También va de cómo financiamos el futuro de la Unión Europea, ya que precisamente el CBAM es uno de los candidatos a formar parte de la cesta de recursos propios desde el año 2020. Para que entre otras cosas contribuya precisamente a la financiación de la deuda de los Next Generation. Pese a la necesidad de que este recurso entre en funcionamiento el Consejo lo tiene bloqueado desde el año 2020.
Mientras tanto han surgido nuevas prioridades. Hablamos de transición energética, de competitividad industrial o de defensa. Y no podemos seguir aumentando las responsabilidades de la Unión Europea sin aumentar también la capacidad de financiación. Por eso la ampliación del CBAM puede contribuir a solucionar parte de este problema, ya que se calcula que puede generar alrededor de 580 millones de euros en el año 2030 y 690 en el 35.
Por lo tanto quiero aprovechar para concluir para hacer un llamamiento al Consejo a desbloquear un recurso de vital importancia para la Unión Europea.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie onorevole. Prego onorevole Nerudová per la commissione per i bilanci. Prego.
Danuše Nerudová
Dear colleagues, EU has set higher climate goals and strict rules for our companies while their competitors outside Europe often face much lower standards. Without enough investment, especially in the decarbonization of heavy industry, these goals and rules will remain just words on the paper or worse, become a burden. This temporary mechanism can help, but we need two things. First, it must not become another bureaucratic monster. And second, all the money has to go back to our companies, not disappear into national budgets and spent elsewhere.
We have seen this with ETS revenues. Let us not make the same mistake again. Thank you.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie onorevole. Prego onorevole Salini per la commissione per l'industria, la ricerca e l'energia.
Massimiliano Salini
Grazie presidente, grazie commissario. Noi abbiamo lavorato seriamente io credo e ringrazio i relatori delle altre famiglie politiche per dare compimento ad una giustissima decisione della Commissione Europea di procedere non solo a rinforzare il CBAM ma a ridefinirne lo scopo allargandolo. Questo perché, e di questo devo dare atto al collega Jarubas relatore di aver fatto un lavoro di sintesi decisamente non facile, lo scopo è quello di creare le condizioni perché non si contraddica la misura al suo interno. Cioè salvando il primo anello della catena, il caso ad esempio dell'acciaio è stato eclatante, e non salvando i successivi anelli si finisce per esaurire completamente il valore della misura. Allora intervenire allargando lo scopo anche ai prodotti trasformati consente a chi è stato tutelato nella fase iniziale della misura di ottenere piena, piena soddisfazione e quindi dare ristoro vero all'industria europea.
Credo sarà un ottimo lavoro con un ottimo effetto anche sulla revisione dell'ETS. Grazie.
Antonella Sberna
Allora chiedo intanto a tutti i colleghi di essere molto precisi nei tempi e vi comunico che abbiamo ricevuto moltissime richieste per il catch-the-eye che non potremo accogliere tutte, quindi lo chiudiamo già da adesso. Iniziamo, prego onorevole Hadjipantela. Prego.
Grazie onorevole. Iniziamo il dibattito.
Michalis Hadjipantela
Κυρία Πρόεδρε, αγαπητέ Επίτροπε, αγαπητοί συνάδελφοι. Θέλω να ευχαριστήσω τον εισηγητή και όλους τους συναδέλφους για την εξαιρετική συνεργασία για να συντάξουμε αυτή την έκθεση. Ως εισηγητής για το Ευρωπαϊκό Λαϊκό Κόμμα, είμαι περήφανος γιατί το προσωρινό ταμείο αποανθρακοποίησης δίνει ανάσα σε πολύ σημαντικούς κλάδους, όπως το αλουμίνιο και το τσιμέντο. Κλάδοι κρίσιμοι για την Ευρώπη και ιδιαίτερα για την Κύπρο. Το ταμείο αυτό είναι ένα από τα πολλά εργαλεία που επεξεργαζόμαστε για να αυξήσουμε την ανταγωνιστικότητα της Ευρώπης.
Οι ευρωπαϊκές επιχειρήσεις ανταγωνίζονται διεθνώς χώρες χωρίς μηχανισμό CBAM και χάνουν συνεχώς μερίδιο αγοράς. Με αυτό το στοχευμένο εργαλείο στηρίζουμε την ανταγωνιστικότητα και ταυτόχρονα χρηματοδοτούμε πραγματικές επενδύσεις αποανθρακοποίησης. Το Ευρωπαϊκό Κοινοβούλιο έκανε το καθήκον του. Προτείνουμε μία φιλόδοξη λύση για τη βιομηχανία και το περιβάλλον. Τώρα είναι η σειρά των κρατών μελών να σπάσουν το αδιέξοδο στο Συμβούλιο.
Σας ευχαριστώ.
Annalisa Corrado
Grazie Presidente. Si parla spesso di transizione ecologica e decarbonizzazione legandole al rischio di deindustrializzazione che attraversa purtroppo l'Unione Europea. Un rischio che non riguarda però allo stesso modo tutti i settori. È totalmente falso, ad esempio, che sia un problema per il settore energetico, dove decarbonizzazione e competitività coincidono totalmente, mentre esiste per i settori manifatturieri esposti a concorrenza sleale. La risposta non è distruggere le nostre ambizioni nella tutela dell'ecosistema e nell'affrontare la crisi climatica, ma mettere in campo la forza dell'Unione.
Il CBAM è un esempio concreto, è un principio semplice: alle imprese europee chiediamo giustamente di ridurre le proprie emissioni, innovare, investire nella decarbonizzazione, ma questo sforzo ha un costo e non possiamo permettere che diventi uno svantaggio competitivo rispetto a chi produce fuori dall'Europa senza curarsi dei costi ambientali e sociali. Il CBAM nasce per questo: ristabilire condizioni di concorrenza più eque e tutelare la nostra industria di qualità.
Oggi facciamo un passo avanti estendendo questa protezione lungo la catena del valore: non solo acciaio e alluminio, ma anche i prodotti che li utilizzano, dagli elettrodomestici alle attrezzature, ai componenti industriali. Rispetto a 180 prodotti inizialmente proposti, arriviamo a oltre 450. Allo stesso tempo rafforziamo i controlli su chi cerca di fare il furbo, perché un CBAM efficace deve essere solido, prevedibile e capace di dare certezza alle imprese che investono nella transizione. Grazie.
Ondřej Knotek
Thank you Madam Chair, Mr. Commissioner, colleagues. Surprisingly, I'm not so optimistic. Some improvements in ETS and CBAM go in a good direction and Patriots will be able to support them. But just be clear: these are only very cosmetic changes targeting symptoms and not the cause of EU industry downfall. In medicinal terminology, EU industry is a critical state dying patient poisoned by wrong industrial and climate policy of the past years, a patient that needs real antidote and not just soft painkillers.
In the reality, EU industry needs much cheaper ETS 1 price for EU exporters, effective uninterrupted CBAM to protect EU market and upon need compensations for some sectors such as for farmers.
Simply measures that are not at all reached by the small improvements that we have today on the table. The more alarming is to hear that you consider these good but soft measures as sufficient, completely ignoring the critical signals from industry across Europe. Trust us, Mr. Commissioner, industry needs much more and every delay to deliver real corrections in the climate policy from your side is a damage for Europe. The choice is very simple. Either you protect EU industry from wrong EU climate policy of the past years or you continue in this policy far from global reality based on unrealistic targets and damaging our European economy.
So what will be your choice, Mr. Commissioner? Thank you.
Alexandr Vondra
Good evening, dear colleagues. I think that the high energy prices are the largest headache for everybody in Europe, for the people, for the business, industries. That's why we are lagging behind the US, China and other competing powers.
So the receipt is very clear what we must do. We need stable prices of the ETS allowances and ETS 1 in particular now. So we need to improve the sector imbalances and avoid the risk of allowance scarcity and price spikes. The European Commission, and I'm very critical of it, but now I would be applauding because it understood the assignment and came out, you Commissioner, with a simple proposal for the reform of MSR 1 to stop invalidation of allowances, build big enough reserve, full stop, and I applaud it. And your EPP in the committee could have a simple majority to support this, but because of this policy of firewalls, it decided to negotiate with the left to give the green flavor with the compromise, so-called compromise.
So ECR is different. I will simply propose to my colleagues to reject the committee so-called compromise and to stay behind your proposal in the tomorrow's vote. That's the only reasonable way forward.
Emma Ytterell
It feels like I am living in two different realities. One where we have had the most extreme summers in Europe, where Parisians have literally been boiling and cooking eggs on their rooftops, where Europe have had massive wildfires, where 35,000 Europeans have died prematurely, where we have had massive wildfires across the continent, and where the scientists say that we have already surpassed 1.5 degrees. And then we have the other reality, the one where competitiveness has become the argument to dismantle climate policy, where competitiveness is used to oppose technological development, where political forces ask to dismantle the polluter pay principle and to protect the fossil industry. How can we have these two realities at the same time? How did we end up here?
Why are we discussing things in this room pretending that this summer didn't happen? This summer shows that we cannot slow down the reduction of emissions, that we cannot lower the ambition of the emission trading scheme, and that we cannot dismantle the market stability reserve like the Commission proposes.
We in this house, the house of the Europeans, we speak up, we will make resistance and we oppose this change. We do not always agree with each other, the political forces of this house, but we have found a joint proposal and we are challenging the European Commission when they are obviously trying to live in two realities at the same time. We need to live in one reality and we need to fix this. Thank you.
Sara Matthieu
Colleagues, why should a washing machine made in Europe cost more simply because our European producers pay for their carbon emissions and a Chinese producer doesn't? That's why we build CBAM and tomorrow we take the next step by extending it from the raw steel and aluminium to the finished products. And thanks to the Greens, we've extended this to essential green tech products like solar panels, like heat pumps. And we also removed the so-called emergency brake that would have left the door open for products to be removed from the scope. There was some conservatives that wanted to keep that possibility, but that, colleagues, would have created uncertainty for our companies and by removing it, we are making CBAM more predictable and keep investment security.
We're making polluting imports pay for their carbon costs. We're making clean investment more attractive, and we give European industry the confidence they need to invest here. Thank you very much.
So all in all, we'll have a stronger CBAM.
Li Andersson
Dear colleagues, there is nothing, no data, no science, no nothing saying that we would have the option of slowing down cutting emissions. Extreme heat waves are killing people, destroying crops, and yet here we are in Parliament faced with several proposals to change the emissions trading system that would mean slowing down the pace. That is unacceptable. The ETS is a market-based mechanism, meaning that it only works if there is scarcity. If there is an oversupply of emissions allowances, emissions will not decrease.
That is why the invalidation mechanism in the MSR is so important. It manages expectations. We cannot afford the risk that releasing additional allowances from the MSR in the future will drive up emissions.
I am very happy that there are groups that are willing to improve these proposals that we get from the Commission, for example on the market stability reserve. But it's also a problem for us when we end up getting them, making them a little bit better, but still ending up in a situation that is worse than where we started out. Lowering ambition, we really need to do better.
Anja Arndt
Stahlwerke in der EU unterliegen horrenden CO2-Abgaben durch das Emissionshandelssystem. Deswegen wurde europäischer Stahl teurer und wurde lieber importiert. Die Einnahmen der Kommission aus diesem ETS-System lagen allein im letzten Jahr bei mehr als 43 Milliarden Euro. Statt ETS aufzuheben, weil es unsere eigenen Stahlwerke gefährdet und auch die übrige Industrie, führte die Kommission trickreich den CO2-Zoll CBAM ein und weitete das ETS-System mal eben per Federstrich auf den Außenhandel aus, mit unkalkulierbaren Folgen für unsere Lieferketten. Mehr als eine Milliarde Euro fließen jetzt zusätzlich Jahr für Jahr in die Kasse der EU, während betroffene Unternehmen verzweifeln.
Ein Schraubenimporteur muss jetzt etwa 6 Millionen Euro CBAM-Kosten pro Jahr zahlen bei 90 Millionen Euro Umsatz. Diese Belastung wird an Maschinenbauer, Autohersteller und Verbraucher weitergegeben. Erkennen Sie die unverschämte Umverteilung bei gleichzeitiger Gefährdung unserer Wirtschaft?
Wir werden in ein kostspieliges, verlogenes Klimakorsett gezwungen. ETS verteuert die europäische Produktion, CBAM die Importe, und jetzt soll CBAM auf bis zu 457 weitere Produktgruppen ausgeweitet werden. Der Effekt aufs Klima ist nicht messbar, aber unsere ökonomische Basis wird mit Sicherheit zerstört. Wir müssen ETS und CBAM jetzt stoppen, deshalb braucht Europa die ESN und Deutschland braucht die AfD.
Wopke Hoekstra
Thank you very much, Chair. I've been looking forward to this new debating format for weeks, so I know we're short on time, so I'm going to do it a bit staccato. First, I wanted to say in the direction of gentlemen Canfin and Shahim that I very much agree with the importance they have underlined in terms of pushing this proposal forward from a climate perspective as well as from a competitiveness perspective, and that is also the message I will convey to the Council.
Then there were also making a couple of suggestions about Article 27a. I know that that is a disputed area, if that is the way to describe it. I look forward to continuing to engage on that, and I'm sure we can achieve our joint goal of dealing with exceptional circumstances while at the same time maintaining sufficient legal certainty. Madam Gomez Lopez asked me about own resource. There I just have to refer to the Commission proposal.
I cannot deviate from that. Madam Boylan was asking about technical assistance and use the money of CBAM exactly for that cause. That's exactly what we're doing. We're giving, I would say, a load of technical assistance to absolutely everyone who wants it. And Europe continues to be the absolute frontrunner in terms of climate commitments and financing across the globe, full stop.
So we might not be doing it one-on-one, but we are doing more than our fair share. To Madam Noudova, I would want to say that I very much agree with keeping bureaucratic monsters out, but it was this Commission that actually took out 90% of the companies from the scope. That is what we did. So I think we have a bit of a track record, particularly in this domain.
To Mr. Knotnek, my only advice would be to further work on his analogies involving patients and hospitals. Mr. Vondra, that's a bit of a recap of the debate of last week. If you look in Europe and you look at who has the lowest prices, it is Finland, lowest energy prices. Why? Because they have a combination of renewables, nuclear, grid capacity, and that works phenomenally well, and that is a recipe all should embark on. But let's not make the mistake to do as if just the ETS is the component that drives prices.
That is driven, as Mr. Vondra well knows, by the intrinsics first and foremost. To Emma Wiesner, I would say as much as I'm a fan of recycling, this was maybe a bit too much frappé toujours compared to last week, but I very much enjoyed hearing it again. And then I think I have done justice to everything that was more or less formulated as a question, I think. So let me pause there, because then that keeps one minute in the bank, Chair, thank you.
Niels Flemming Hansen
Dear colleagues, dear Commissioner. I have very much sympathy for the fact that those who admit CO2 also want to know what the bill will look like. And we have a responsibility to ensure that changes we are making right now allow our businesses and voters to continue trusting us. Because when we say that in this House we boost the 90% fewer emissions by 2040, then we also need to deliver the tools to get there. One of them we are discussing today.
The emission trading system already loses most people at the door, and it doesn't get any easier when we start to talk about the market stability reserve. But just in any other market, the question is the same: what should it cost? We as politicians should not set the price, but we must ensure that the rules and direction are transparent. We owe the business community one word: predictability.
Otherwise, both the investments already made and those yet to be made will collapse like a house of cards. Thank you.
Javi López
Muchísimas gracias, presidenta. Muchas gracias, comisario Hoekstra. Después del verano más caluroso de nuestras vidas, cuando Naciones Unidas confirma que ya se ha aumentado un grado y medio la temperatura en la Tierra, hemos tenido hospitales colapsados en toda Europa y 200 millones de europeos sufriendo más de 35 grados a la vez, algo nunca visto, demostramos con este debate y con la acción que hoy defendemos que es posible no solo mantener y reforzar la acción climática, sino combatir el falso y estúpido dilema entre acción climática y competitividad. Que es posible proteger nuestra industria y reforzar la acción climática. ¿Y lo hacemos cómo?
Reforzando el ajuste de carbono en frontera, que protege la industria para asegurar que obviamente las importaciones en Europa se han aplicado los mismos estándares y regulación medioambiental. Con el fondo de descarbonización temporal para apoyar y acompañar la industria que se está transformando y obviamente manteniendo un mercado europeo de carbono fuerte y estable.
Porque sabemos que no solo la acción climática protege nuestra industria sino construye la competitividad del futuro, sino que además la estabilidad jurídica es lo que permite la inversión para el crecimiento presente y futuro. Muchas gracias.
Antonella Sberna
Vice-president there is a blue card for you. Please Mr. Dostál. Just one second for the translation. Do you have the... No, you don't have a blue card, sorry.
Perfect. No, no, they cancelled. Okay. Perfect. Prego onorevole Caverdagna.
Stefano Cavedagna
Grazie Presidente. Sono passati esattamente vent'anni da quando è stata pensata qui in Europa il sistema dell'Emissions Trading System, quella odiosa tassa ambientale che coloro che producono, le tante industrie della nostra Europa, devono pagare per essere sostenibili. A cosa ha portato questo? Alla recessione e alla deindustrializzazione della nostra Europa, con una concorrenza a volte sleale che arriva dal Sud-est asiatico e che sta letteralmente scalzando tutta la nostra capacità produttiva.
Non è solo il settore dell'automobile, ma tutta l'industria pesante sta relegando la sua capacità produttiva. A questo punto vi siete inventati il cosiddetto CBAM, il meccanismo per fare un vero e proprio dazio, perché so che è una parola che qua non si può utilizzare, ma un dazio per cercare di calmierare questo danno competitivo. Beh, però vi siete dimenticati gli agricoltori, perché togliendo l'articolo 27 bis, la clausola di salvaguardia, i fertilizzanti non verranno tutelati. Questa Europa così non ci piace.
Michael Bloss
Meine sehr verehrten Damen und Herren, immer wenn es um Gesetzgebung geht, dann hört man ja aus konservativen Kreisen fast schon religiös mantraartig: Der Markt regelt das. Und ich frage mich, wieso gilt das eigentlich nicht beim CO2-Preis und beim Klimaschutz? Denn der funktioniert ja genauso. Wenn der CO2-Ausstoß sinkt, dann bleibt's günstiger. Und wenn nicht, dann zieht der Preis an.
Und das ist auch gut so, denn erstens, dann bekommen die E-Autos und die Wärmepumpen einen Wettbewerbsvorteil und zweitens, mit den Einnahmen aus dem CO2-Preis kann man Bürgerinnen und Bürger unterstützen. Und was jetzt hier beschlossen werden soll, das ist eben kein Markt. Sobald der Preis anfängt zu wirken, dann soll er gedeckelt werden.
Kein Markt, kein Klimaschutz, sondern Deckel. Wir haben einen Rauchmelder installiert und schrauben den jetzt ab, weil er möglicherweise anfängt zu piepen. Meine Damen und Herren, nach diesem Hitzesommer, Hitzesommer, der uns in Europa 180 Milliarden Euro gekostet hat, da sollte wirklich jeder auch in den hintersten Ecken dieses Parlaments wissen, weniger Klimaschutz, das können wir uns wirklich nicht mehr leisten. Herzlichen Dank.
Antonella Sberna
Mr. Bloss, there are two blue cards if you accept it. From Mr. Terheş and Mr. Bernhuber. Okay. Do you accept? Okay.
Please Mr. Terheş for 30 seconds, please.
Cristian Terheş
Thank you. Okay. Cool, thank you. You claim that the conservatives are wrong when I say that CBAM or ETS are jamming and destroying our economy. But please explain to us, who else in the world and in their right mind applied these schemes that they are claiming that are working in the EU?
Show me one country, not many countries, another country outside of EU that applied something they are claiming that should be applied in the EU that is making us all poorer. Thank you.
Michael Bloss
I can tell you, for instance California, together with Canada or China, they have emission trading systems. But what I would like to understand from you is why are the prices in for instance Romania so high? Why are the electricity prices so high? And do you know what? It is precisely because there's a difference between Europe and China and the US.
Europe is importing all of its energy, fossil energy that costs us a billion. And in addition, we have this cost from the climate crisis. So if you want to do something against crisis, against prices, then you have to switch to renewables because that brings prices down. And in Romania we could see it, when Bulgaria delivered from their batteries energy to Romania this summer when because of the climate crisis your nuclear power plants went down.
Cristian Terheş
This is exactly the reason why the price of energy in Romania is higher. Because a lot of insane politicians in Romania believe exactly what you're saying, that we should destroy our coal power plants, close down hydroelectric power plants, and move on renewables. The problem is this. What do you do if there's no sun, if there's no wind, and if there's no water? This is the reason why the Romanians currently are paying pretty much the highest energy price in Europe.
So the solution is to have energy addition, not energy transition. Keep the old energy sources and add new ones as much as you can. Thank you.
Michael Bloss
I mean, I think the rivers didn't dry up because of some politicians that thought that would be a good idea, but because of the climate crisis. So I think you should stay here to the reality. But what I think is interesting, if you look into Europe, then you see that in places where you have the highest renewable share is where you have the lowest energy prices. And I think this is what we all should understand, that the gas prices, the fossil prices, they bring the energy prices up. And only if we produce our own energy, homemade energy from Europe, this is what brings prices down.
Sie haben ja angesprochen, dass die CO2-Preise in Summe ein faires System bringen. Dann möchte ich aber den landwirtschaftlichen Aspekt betrachten, wo ja die Düngerkosten steigen werden, die Produktionskosten in der Europäischen Union steigen werden, gleichzeitig aber importierter Weizen, egal ob der aus Ukraine kommt, aus Amerika kommt, aber ganz andere Produktionskosten hat. Wie sehen Sie dieses System oder wie wollen Sie das für unsere heimischen Betriebe fair machen?
Ganz herzlichen Dank.
Michael Bloss
Ja, herzlichen Dank. Ich weiß jetzt nicht, also ich weiß, was Sie sozusagen zur Landwirtschaft sagen wollen, das machen Sie auch gerne. Wenn ich aber mich mit den Düngerproduzenten in Europa unterhalte, dann sagen die: Ja, wir wollen einen CBAM, wir wollen das, wir brauchen das, weil nur mit einem CBAM können wir hier in Europa noch im Vergleich zu den anderen wettbewerblich produzieren. Also von daher reden Sie mal mit denen. Das ist unsere Industrie hier in Europa und die wollen den CBAM.
Ja, ich erzähle Ihnen was Neues. Das sehe ich. Freut mich.
Milan Mazurek
Náš priemysel padá na kolená. Naše podniky opúšťajú Európu a zatvárajú svoje priemyselné haly. Ľuďom sa žije čoraz ťažšie a ťažšie.
Mladí ľudia nevidia v Európskej únii žiadnu budúcnosť. Energie, palivá, to všetko raketovo rastie. Výsledky vašej klimatickej politiky. Ale namiesto toho, aby ste to zhodnotili a prijali opatrenia, ktoré povedú k tomu, že zastavíte tieto nezmyselné emisné povolenky, ktoré si musia spoločnosti kupovať a naopak netlačiť ich ešte aj do domácností, tak prichádzate s ďalšími a ďalšími nezmyslami. S emisnými normami, ktoré sa sprísňujú pre osobné aj nákladné automobily.
S uhlíkovým clom, ktoré zase zaťaží naše domácnosti a ľudia v Európe budú platiť viac za svoj každodenný život. Stále robíte všetko v rámci vašej zelenej klimatickej ideológie iba preto, aby ste zničili život ľuďom v Európskej únii. Výsledky však neprichádzajú žiadne. Vaše opatrenia nemajú nijaký vplyv na zmenu klímy. Nedokážete nič z toho, čo ste ľuďom sľúbili, akurát to robíte pre všetkých horšie.
Odstúpte alebo prestaňte s tým, čo robíte a vráťte ľuďom a podnikateľom slobodu.
Speaker 46
Mr Mazurek, there is a two blue cards for you, if you accept it. Okay, please Mr Sieper.
You said that what the Commission is doing here is not actually doing something to protect the climate. So I'm just very interested to know in your opinion, because I think you would not deny climate change, you would not deny the billions and billions and trillions that climate change could cost us later down the line and I also know that you in particular, you would not want the climate migration that will happen. So what can we do to protect the climate actually, if not this? Thank you very much.
Herr Mazurek, I'm very happy that you took the blue card this time.
Milan Mazurek
Mr Sieper, you are absolutely excellent. Finally, question related to the topics which we are discussing, it's the first time from you, so I really appreciate that. But I would really hope that in the past, the people lived during the Ice Age would have exactly people like you, because you would be those one who would stop the climate change during that age. You would be those one who would stop the melting of the ice, because you think you are gods among the humans and you can stop the climate change. Nothing from that ideology works in real life.
Look at what is China doing, look at what is India doing. They are fulfilling the oceans with the waste, they are producing so much emissions which we can't even compare. This is absolutely useless what you are doing.
Lukas Sieper
Thank you.
Do you want to react? Please.
Mr. Mazurek, I want to thank you for your compliment that I actually posed a question regarding the topic. I am therefore extremely disappointed that you didn't actually reply to my question. So I'm sure I'm a great guy, I could stop the climate change after the ice age, very sure about this. So I will ask you once again, talking about the climate change now, what would be a way to stop it or to mitigate it? Because all the statistics show that there is in fact a difference between the heighten of temperature after the ice age and now, which is the speed.
So what can we do to at least slow it down? Thank you very much. Maybe this time you can actually reply.
Milan Mazurek
Thank you very much, Mr. Sieper, I see you don't understand me, but to be honest, I think none of what they are doing is going to reduce the climate change, is going to do anything with it. And I believe there is nothing what we can do to stop it because the climate was changing during the whole existence of our planet. And you cannot deny it because during the times when dinosaurs were walking through this earth, the climate was changing without our industry. What we can do are the measures to adjust to their, to those changes, which we support, not those emission standards and business for few chosen companies.
Speaker 49
Frau Präsident, Herr Kollege, ETS und CBAM verteuern ja Energie, Produktion, Mobilität, Investitionen in der gesamten EU. Und Sie sind in Wahrheit industriefeindlich, belasten unsere Bauern und treiben die Kosten für die Haushalte in die Höhe, obwohl sie ohnehin schon so schwer belastet sind. Und währenddessen produzieren China, Indien und alle anderen weiter ohne irgendwelche Auflagen. Meine Frage daher an Sie: Wissen Sie ungefähr, um wie viel Grad diese Maßnahmen, ETS, CBAM und aller dieser bürokratische Apparat, um wie viel Grad die die globale Temperatur senken, nur damit wir wissen, wofür unsere Industrie und unsere Arbeitsplätze zerstört werden?
Milan Mazurek
Thank you very much, Mr. Haider, I think you already know the answer and this answer is none. This answer is that those measures enacted here by the European Commission will have no impact on the ongoing changes in our climate. They are useless. They are good only to fulfill their ideas, this crazy green ideology, and also they are good for some businesses. They are good for few chosen companies and entities which are gaining so much money from all of this ideology nonsense.
We need to release, we need to make Europe free again and give the businesses chance to work properly again and live a normal life.
Adam Jarubas
Pani przewodnicząca, panie komisarzu, jutro głosujemy nad mandatem negocjacyjnym w sprawie CBAM. Chcę bardzo podziękować panu sprawozdawcy Mohammedowi Chahimowi, wszystkim kontrsprawozdawcom za dobrą współpracę. Jeśli CBAM ma działać w praktyce, a europejski przemysł ma być należycie chroniony, musimy zamknąć luki. To sprawozdanie wzmacnia przepisy dotyczące nadużyć, definiuje resource shuffling, rozszerza listę produktów chronionych i proponuje specjalny reżim dla aluminium. Usuwamy z projektu rozporządzenia artykuł 27a, bo zawieszenie niektórych sektorów czy produktów w mechanizmie stworzyłoby niepewność prawną i osłabiłoby inwestycje w Europie.
Zamiast zawieszać CBAM, proponujemy przekierowanie przychodów do sektorów dotkniętych zakłóceniami rynku. To wraz z przepisami funduszu dekarbonizacyjnego wspierającego najbardziej narażoną produkcję rolną jest prawdziwym wsparciem rolników. Jest to rozwiązanie lepiej dopasowane niż artykuł 27a, który mógłby rozmontować cały system, cały mechanizm i podważyć zaufanie do przemysłu. Proszę o poparcie tego mandatu. Dziękuję.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie onorevole, abbiamo concluso il dibattito. Iniziamo la procedura catch-the-eye e potremo accogliere solo un oratore per gruppo dato il ritardo accumulato. Quindi iniziamo con il primo, prego onorevole Joński per il PPE. Prego.
Dariusz Joński
Pani przewodnicząca, bardzo dziękuję. Muszę powiedzieć, że ze zdumieniem przysłuchuję się tej debacie, bo wszyscy wiemy na tej sali, że Chiny, Indie, Stany Zjednoczone zalewają swoimi produktami, a przede wszystkim Chiny. I kiedy Unia Europejska wychodzi z konkretną propozycją i Parlament Europejski i Komisja Europejska przedstawia 457 produktów, które będą szczególnie chronione, to znaczy te, które będą sprzedawane spoza Unii Europejskiej będą obarczone specjalnym podatkiem, specjalnym cłem, to słyszę tutaj z ust populistów na tej sali, że nie ma sensu tego przyjmować, po co my w ogóle o tym rozmawiamy. No to jest wręcz niewiarygodne. Można by było zadać pytanie, w czyim interesie ci ludzie w ogóle tutaj przychodzą i dlaczego tutaj siedzą, bo tu chodzi o takie gałęzie, które są dla nas fundamentem Europy, jak cementowa, jak między innymi stalowa, jak między innymi AGD, o które walczymy.
Polska jest akurat drugim producentem AGD na całym świecie. Więc ze zdumieniem, ale chciałbym zadać konkretne pytanie panu komisarzowi. Oprócz CBAM-u i tego cła, które wprowadzamy, co możemy szybko zrobić, żeby obniżyć ceny energii, bo to jest dzisiaj bardzo, bardzo ważne. Dziękuję.
Maria Grapini
Stimată președintă, stimați colegi, rapoartele pe care le avem acum de votat mâine pot să aducă un avantaj, în același timp pot să fie aplicate prost. Pentru că, domnule comisar, acest fond pentru temporar pentru decarbonizare este foarte important mecanismul pe care îl vom avea tocmai pentru a nu distorsiona. Și dintotdeauna am susținut dacă vreți apărarea industriei și agriculturii din Uniunea Europeană. Pentru că un producător, fie din industrie, fie un fermier, dacă din afară vin în interiorul pieței interne produse care nu respectă aceleași condiții de mediu, standarde sociale, celelalte condiții, evident că sunt într-o competiție neloială. De aceea cred că este foarte important dacă vrem să reindustrializăm, dacă vrem securitate alimentară, să avem aceleași condiții pentru produsele care intră din afara Uniunii Europene.
Și eu sper că reușim ca acest articol 27a, cu amendamentele puse mâine în plenară, să îmbunătățim încât fermierii, am primit nenumărate scrisori, să poată să fie protejați.
Știm cum au crescut prețurile la îngrășăminte, știm ce probleme avem, cât îi costul îngrășămintelor în costul producției fermierilor. De aceea sper că mâine să îmbunătățim aceste rapoarte.
Cristian Terheş
Grazie onorevole, prego onorevole Terheș.
Thank you very much. Mr. Commissioner, this carbon border adjustment mechanism is a way to actually promote a social engineering scheme that Ursula von der Leyen mentioned in this plenary in 2019, and she said, and I quote, "Carbon emissions must have a price that will change our behavior." So I'm asking you, what kind of behavior do you want to change in Europe? Because clearly what you guys are proposing has nothing to do with free market economy. On one side, everything that you are proposing is leading to higher energy prices, higher raw material prices, higher taxes, higher costs.
How do you think the European companies will be able to compete on the global market?
If we check the stats, we see that the global GDP is 104 trillion euros, but the European's GDP is 18.8 trillion, that makes it 18%. How do you think the whole world is going to adjust to 18% of the European economy, or we should think twice before we promote this kind of measures that are making us poorer and less competitive? Thank you.
Barry Andrews
Thank you, Madam President. Climate policy isn't ideology, it's science. Science makes the microphone work, it keeps the lights on, and it concludes that warming is anthropogenic. Warming is caused by human activity. To have to explain that, to assert this in an adult parliament is frankly depressing.
It's difficult to listen to conservatives criticize emissions trading when it was them that insisted on a market-based intervention. It was them that insisted on cap and trade. And I agree with MEP Shahim and with MEP Canfin that it is working and that it's effective, and CBAM is working and is effective. I have criticized the simplification agenda when it has been deregulatory or when it has punished early adopters. However, it would be naive to ignore the realities, and that's why our industry needs the competitiveness agenda.
We need support in the face of the energy crisis, including through social climate plans, and it also needs support on carbon pricing. Thank you.
Speaker 56
I just want to express my gratitude. I just want to express my thanks to all of you who repeated your climate change decarbonization nonsense today because you're making my work, my political work, so much easier. Please give me more of this bullshit and it will be easier for me to persuade my compatriots to leave the Eurokolkhoz behind. You know what ETS is for? It is for extortion theft system.
And this is making Europe dead end as far as industry, as far as progress, as far as innovation is concerned. And please, please talk more about your scientific climate change and helping the planet to survive because this is very good for me in Poland. This makes it easier to make Polexit happen.
Thank you very much.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie, vi invito a tenere un linguaggio consono all'onore di quest'aula. Prego, Mr. Sieper, point of order.
Thank you, Mr. President. Number three, you already said it, Mr. Brown. You pride yourself on your manners. You pride yourself on your behavior. You act like a gentleman while spreading lies and deception towards the people of Europe.
If you do it, please maybe do it in a language that suits the charade that you want to play here. Thank you very much.
Cristian Terheş
Grazie, onorevole. Abbiamo concluso la procedura catch-the-eye. Prego, Commissario Hoekstra.
Wopke Hoekstra
Merci, Monsieur. Thank you very much, Chair. Not that many questions, but two things I do feel compelled to share here given the nature of the debate.
Of course, you can debate what are the most effective measures. Of course, you can debate what type of mix you need to have in terms of renewables and nuclear and so on. Of course, you can debate what works best in terms of the level playing field. But if you deny the economic cost of climate change, you're deep into the domain of voodoo economics, and I would suggest we steer away from that. Secondly, why are energy prices in Europe so high?
Because we import more than 80% of the gas, more than 95% of the oil, and the price tag only since Hormuz has gone up with an additional half a billion every single day. And that is money European citizens and European companies are paying. And the only way out of this nightmare is more dirt-cheap Europe-made energy. And that means renewables, it means nuclear, it means grid investments, it means interconnectors, it means geothermal, that whole mix with more speed. Thank you.
Finally, I'm still pondering whether we have further enriched this style of debate, but that is of course not up to me, that is up to Parliament.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie onorevole, prego all'onorevole Chahim relatore per la replica, prego.
Mohammed Chahim
Yes, so a lot have been said today, so a couple of things that I would like to reiterate. I think it's very easy to yell and shout and claim that you are a very hardworking politician, but at the end of the day we discuss at the table. If you have any ideas on any of the legislation that we work on, join the table and come with your ideas. I noticed that many people that were not present during many discussions I've had are now having the hardest voice, claiming that we're all fools and we don't know anything about this. Let me tell you something about the ETS.
There has no, there's no more successful emissions trading scheme in the world than in Europe. We've decarbonized that industry with more than 30% while it grow with more than 60%. Talking about decarbonization, please look at the facts. There was a question here like where in the world are they doing the same as we're doing in ETS? China, US, India has announced it, Vietnam has announced, I can, there's a whole list.
Maybe use some Googling and find out.
The world is following the EU and why? Because they see that with the revenues you can decarbonize your industry. We have doubled the modernization fund to show solidarity within Europe. That's what you conclude if you take the fact and read the legislation and what we work on. It's ridiculous.
It's really ridiculous. Only making noise with zero, zero effect and zero contributions to the legislation. A fool can ask more questions than a ten wise people can answer. And I can tell you the difference between stupidity and intelligence is that intelligence is limited. Thank you very much.
Pascal Canfin
Merci beaucoup chers collègues, merci madame la présidente.
Je me réjouis de la qualité du débat à l'exception des interventions permanentes des députés d'extrême droite qui pendant une heure ont exprimé des points de vue climatosceptiques niant l'évidence même. Non Monsieur, le rythme actuel de réchauffement climatique n'a rien à voir avec celui du passé. Toutes les études scientifiques le démontrent. Non Monsieur, ce n'est pas parce qu'on décarbone, qu'on investit dans les renouvelables et l'énergie nucléaire que les prix des énergies sont très élevés. C'est exactement le contraire.
C'est parce qu'en Roumanie, c'est parce qu'en Italie vous êtes totalement dépendants du gaz que précisément vous avez une énergie qui est bien plus chère qu'en France, qu'en Espagne, qu'en Suède. C'est votre responsabilité. C'est parce que vous n'avez pas investi dans les technologies vertes que nous nous voulons voir développer, que nous avons commencé à développer, que vous rendez les gens dépendants d'une énergie très chère, très polluante et totalement importée. Alors je sais que ça ne vous pose aucun problème d'être dépendants de Vladimir Poutine. Je sais que ça ne vous pose aucun problème d'être dépendants des États-Unis de Donald Trump.
Mais nous, réellement patriotes européens, nous souverainistes européens, les vrais qui voulons créer l'Europe puissance, oui ça nous gêne d'être dépendants des puissances fossiles. C'est pour ça qu'on a besoin du marché du carbone. C'est pour ça qu'on a besoin d'un prix du carbone, du CBAM et c'est pour ça qu'on continuera à se battre contre tous vos mensonges, contre toutes vos inepties. Vous pouvez compter sur nous.
Grazie Presidente. Ho ascoltato con grande attenzione tutti gli interventi e ringrazio i colleghi per i loro contributi.
Pierfrancesco Maran
È del tutto naturale che su un tema così rilevante come quello dell'ETS vi siano sensibilità e posizioni diverse in quest'aula. Stiamo affrontando alcuni tra i dossier più complessi e politicamente sensibili di questa legislatura, in un momento in cui la concorrenza internazionale è durissima e non sempre leale, e dopo un'estate che ci ha fatto sentire con mano cos'è il cambiamento climatico. Tuttavia, voglio respingere con chiarezza quella che ritengo essere una falsa dicotomia: l'idea che ci si debba schierare da una parte con l'ambizione climatica o dall'altra con l'industria europea. Scegliere di migliorare l'ETS o il CBAM non può significare abbandonare l'industria e i nostri lavoratori. E allo stesso tempo, scegliere di difendere la competitività delle nostre compagnie non può significare rinunciare ai nostri obiettivi climatici.
L'Europa non può e non deve scegliere tra queste due sfide. Al contrario, dobbiamo avere l'ambizione e la capacità di tenerle insieme. È una necessità strategica perché un'industria innovativa e decarbonizzata è l'unica che potrà essere davvero competitiva a livello globale nei prossimi anni, così come una transizione ecologica non può funzionare se contribuirà a deindustrializzare il nostro continente o a far delocalizzare le nostre imprese.
I provvedimenti che stiamo discutendo però stanno dimostrando che con fatica, ascoltandoci e venendoci incontro, siamo in grado di trovare dei compromessi che trovano il giusto equilibrio tra queste due sfide. È esattamente questo il senso del lavoro che io e gli altri relatori abbiamo portato avanti in queste settimane nelle nostre commissioni. E io credo che col voto di domani potremo dimostrare che in mesi in cui sarà molto difficile trovare accordi su questi provvedimenti, e penso a tutta la prosecuzione dell'ETS, beh però abbiamo un metodo di lavoro che ci consente di farlo trovando il punto migliore di accordo tra la maggior parte di noi. Grazie.
Antonella Sberna
Grazie onorevole, la discussione congiunta è chiusa e la votazione si svolgerà domani. L'ordine del giorno reca ora la dichiarazione della Commissione, atto legislativo sugli appalti pubblici. Iniziamo dando la parola al commissario Séjourné, vicepresidente esecutivo della Commissione, a nome della Commissione. Prego commissario, grazie.
Stéphane Séjourné
Merci Madame la Présidente. Mesdames et Messieurs les députés, les marchés publics représentent chaque année en Europe plus de 2000 milliards d'euros, soit près de 15 % du PIB européen. Nous avons donc entre les mains un levier économique considérable, une manne pouvant être mieux mobilisée pour la cohésion sociale, pour la décarbonation, pour l'innovation, pour la sécurité économique de l'Europe. C'est pourquoi cette réforme de la commande publique poursuit aujourd'hui deux objectifs. D'abord une simplification massive, puis une utilisation plus stratégique de cet argent public.
D'abord peut-être commencer par la simplification puisque les règles qui encadrent la commande publique en Europe représentent aujourd'hui près de 900 pages de textes européens auxquels s'ajoutent toutes les surtranspositions et les transpositions nationales.
Un règlement, une directive, trois directives, plus d'une vingtaine de règlements et nous mettons fin à cette complexité en proposant un seul règlement unique, trois procédures au lieu de cinq, une plateforme numérique accessible dans toutes les langues de l'Union européenne et ensuite une commande publique qui nous permettra d'utiliser les critères plus facilement et de gagner en lisibilité pour les acheteurs publics. Ensuite, une commande plus stratégique. Sur ces 2000 milliards d'euros, 600 milliards d'euros sont couverts par la législation que nous vous proposons. C'est l'équivalent du plan de relance NextGenerationEU. C'est l'équivalent de trois budgets européens par an si nous regardons ces sommes et effectivement chaque année c'est presque autant que le déficit d'investissement que cible Mario Draghi dans son rapport.
Tout ça pour vous dire que l'argent public doit servir nos objectifs. Et une modification d'un certain nombre de critères, une réorientation plus stratégique de cette dépense publique qui a lieu tous les ans est dorénavant importante dans le cadre de nos priorités. Alors le nouveau standard c'est le meilleur qualité-prix et non plus le seul prix.
C'est le principe de ce texte. Nos choix doivent pouvoir répondre aux exigences sociales, environnementales, aux enjeux d'innovation et de souveraineté que nous défendons. Et je le dis clairement devant vous, ce texte donne aussi aux acheteurs publics les outils d'une véritable préférence européenne dans le respect de nos engagements internationaux et du principe de réciprocité. Ce texte est également un outil pensé pour donner des leviers à ceux qui achètent, ceux qui investissent pour notre avenir et donne énormément de possibilités à tous ceux qui aujourd'hui font de la commande publique uniquement un acte administratif, transformer cet acte administratif également pour nous en stratégie d'achat public européen. Alors, mesdames, messieurs les députés, ce débat est l'occasion d'échanger sur ces ambitions.
La Commission européenne se réjouit de pouvoir commencer la discussion entre les colégislateurs sur ce règlement européen. Merci.
Christian Doleschal
Ja, sehr geehrte Frau Präsidentin, Herr Exekutiv-Vizepräsident, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen.
Angesichts globaler Krisen und innerer Herausforderungen sehen wir jeden Tag deutlicher: Wir müssen in Europa auf allen Ebenen handlungsfähiger und schneller werden. Überall braucht es eine öffentliche Hand, die ihre Aufgaben zuverlässig erfüllt, die wichtige Zukunftsinvestitionen zügig umsetzt und die schnell auf neue Entwicklungen reagieren kann. Das Vergaberecht ist dafür das zentrale Werkzeug. Mit der Reform des Vergaberechts entscheiden wir über die Handlungsfähigkeit der gesamten Europäischen Union, von der internationalen Bühne bis zur kleinsten Kommune. Handlungsfähigkeit bedeutet, bürokratische Lasten für wirklich jeden abzubauen.
Die Zusammenlegung mehrerer Rechtsakte und die im Vorschlag bereits enthaltenen Vereinfachungen begrüßen wir. Wir müssen dafür sorgen, dass diese bei den Anwendern in jeder Gemeinde ankommen. Die Möglichkeit, künftig stärker auf Qualitätskriterien statt einzig auf den Preis setzen zu können, ist für uns ein guter Fortschritt. Allerdings ist auch klar: Die Auftraggeber vor Ort wissen am besten, wann und welche Kriterien sinnvoll berücksichtigt werden können. Sie brauchen einen rechtssicheren Rahmen und Flexibilität statt neuer bürokratischer Pflichten aus Brüssel.
Handlungsfähigkeit bedeutet für uns schnelle und einfache digitale Vergabe. Eine digitale Plattform, die bestehende Systeme integriert, hat großes Potenzial, die Verfahren tatsächlich zu beschleunigen und zu vereinfachen.
Entscheidend ist, dass diese auch zuverlässig funktioniert. Liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen, entscheidend wird für uns sein, dass das Vergabeverfahren auf ein handlungsfähigeres Europa setzt. Herzlichen Dank.
Laura Ballarín Cereza
Muchas gracias, vicepresidente Séjourné, señorías. Uno de cada seis euros de nuestra economía pasa por la contratación pública en forma de servicios, de obras y de puestos de trabajo. Hablamos de los autobuses con los que nos movemos, de los comedores escolares de nuestros hijos o de hospitales públicos donde se salvan vidas. Por eso, contratar bien no puede ser simplemente comprar al mejor precio o al mejor postor. Tiene que ser invertir bien el dinero de todos.
Por eso, saludamos la nueva ley de contratación pública que busca reducir la burocracia y poner fin a los plazos eternos de las licitaciones de nuestros ayuntamientos. Dos, dejar atrás la obsesión por el precio más bajo y también apostar por las pymes y la industria europea frente a la competencia desleal. Sin embargo, el grupo socialista será un aliado exigente en estas negociaciones.
Pedimos y trabajaremos para reforzar las condicionalidades verdes y sociales porque queremos favorecer y no perjudicar como hasta ahora las empresas que hacen bien las cosas, que trabajan para defender los derechos laborales y respetan al medio ambiente. El 14% del PIB es un arma poderosa para favorecer la autonomía de Europa y hacerla más verde y más justa. No perdamos esta oportunidad. Muchas gracias.
Virginie Joron
Merci Madame la Présidente, Monsieur le Commissaire. Strasbourg est un symbole de cette Europe à l'envers. On a eu une mairie qui a acheté des bus à l'autre bout de la planète alors qu'on fabrique des bus en Ardèche. Si on peut en finir avec ce non-sens, nous sommes bien sûr pour. Cette semaine, la Commission a dévoilé son texte sur 2500 milliards d'euros de commande publique en Europe.
Bruxelles n'en voulait pas de la préférence européenne, eh bien aujourd'hui c'est devenu un mot à la mode. 50% de contenu européen et surtout d'après l'article 73, c'est optionnel au lieu d'être obligatoire. Dans le texte, cette préférence n'est pas européenne. Dans l'article 70 sur la préférence européenne, le premier paragraphe parle de la situation des pays étrangers. Tous ces pays couverts par les accords de libre-échange : la Turquie, l'Albanie, l'Australie.
C'est cela votre définition de la préférence européenne ? Comment l'expliquer à Saint-Gobain ou Knauf ? Quels sont ces pays qui ont des accords mais sont fermés aux Européens ? Quand j'ai posé la question à la Commission, elle n'a pas été capable de me répondre. Exigeons la réciprocité réelle, des usines ici, des transferts de technologie.
Ces mots sont malheureusement absents de votre texte. Et que la Commission donne aussi l'exemple et cesse d'acheter Microsoft, Amazon et finance des influenceurs extra-européens.
Je vous remercie.
Jeannette Baljeu
Dank. Als een mkb'er afhaakt voordat hij überhaupt een offerte heeft kunnen indienen en een overheid vervolgens de goedkoopste in plaats van de beste oplossing kiest, dan werken onze aanbestedingsregels niet goed. Toch gebeurt dat nog te vaak. En daarom is het goed dat de Europese aanbestedingsregels eindelijk op de schop gaan. Complimenten aan de commissaris voor het indienen van het stuk.
De VVD en Renew steunen deze herziening. Ten eerste moeten de procedures eenvoudiger. Vooral kleine ondernemers lopen nu vast in formulieren en administratieve rompslomp. Dus digitalisering en minder papierwerk is heel erg goed. Ten tweede mag de laagste prijs niet langer doorslaggevend zijn.
We moeten kijken naar wat aankoop op lange termijn oplevert. Zo krijgen adequate, innovatieve en duurzame oplossingen een eerlijke kans en voorkomen we dat er uiteindelijk duurkoop wordt. Ten derde moeten we ons belastinggeld strategischer inzetten. En daarom kunnen we de industrie en ons eigen Europees bedrijfsleven steunen.
Op al deze drie punten is een belangrijk stuk ingeleverd en daar ga ik graag namens Renew mee aan de slag.
Anna Cavazzini
Ja, sehr geehrter Herr Kommissar, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen, diese Reform ist längst überfällig. 2,5 Billionen jährlich werden durch die öffentliche Hand vergeben und dieses Geld muss endlich strategisch ausgegeben werden. Für gute Arbeitsplätze, für die Kreislaufwirtschaft, für innovative Unternehmen. Und deshalb begrüße ich den Vorschlag der Kommission, Aufträge anteilig verpflichtend nach Qualität und nicht nur nach dem Preis zu vergeben. Denn wer nur aufs billigste Produkt schaut, der zahlt am Ende oft drauf.
Doch warum, lieber Herr Kommissar, haben Sie grüne und soziale Kriterien nicht gleich für die gesamte Vergabe zur Norm gemacht? Wenn wir wirklich klimaeffiziente Produkte Made in Europe nach vorne bringen wollen, wenn wir grüne Leitmärkte schaffen wollen, dann ist Ihr Vorschlag eine verpasste Chance und das Parlament muss hier dringend nachbessern. Ich begrüße ausdrücklich den massiven Digitalisierungsschub, den das Beschaffungswesen mit Ihrem Vorschlag durchlaufen wird. So kann die Vergabe einfacher, transparenter und effizienter werden. Vielen Dank.
Vi har ventet længe på endelig at få en reform af EU's fælles udbudsregler.
Per Clausen
Det har vi kæmpet for længe, og det er nok værd at huske, at det ikke kommer af sig selv. Nej, det er noget af det, som Parlamentet har været nødt til at presse Kommissionen til. Og det er en vigtig reform. For når EU bruger hele 15 % af vores BNP på offentlige udbud, bør pengene bruges rigtigt. Det betyder, at vi skal bruge dem til at styrke det, der er vores politiske mål, herunder den grønne omstilling.
Og vi skal sikre, at firmaer, der underbetaler og misbruger deres ansatte, og som er skyldige i arbejdskriminalitet, eller firmaer, der gemmer sig i skattely, udelukkes fra offentlige udbud. For hvis man ikke vil følge fællesskabets regler, skal man heller ikke kunne tjene penge på fællesskabet. Så enkelt bør det være.
Thank you, Commissaire Séjourné.
Merci Madame la Présidente. Peut-être répondre à un certain nombre d'interrogations et de commentaires qui ont été formulés dans ce premier rang de speakers. D'abord pour vous dire que le caractère obligatoire de la préférence européenne est présente dans les textes que vous êtes en train de discuter actuellement ici au Parlement.
Stéphane Séjourné
Sont présents dans l'accélérateur industriel avec un scope délimité, des obligations d'achat européen sur les secteurs stratégiques sont présents dans l'accélérateur industriel. Il s'agit là de la révision générale des marchés publics, de la commande publique. Et donc nous avons privilégié faire confiance aux acteurs locaux, de leur sécuriser juridiquement les clauses de préférence européenne pour que évidemment elles puissent être utilisées et que la sécurité juridique de la décision de retenir ou d'écarter une offre depuis l'étranger ne soit pas attaquée y compris par les tribunaux. Je prenais quelques exemples en conférence de presse à la Commission en disant que c'était souvent trop la faute à l'Europe, des fois même la faute au commissaire si des bus BYD circulaient dans les rues et si un certain nombre de collectivités avaient choisi le prix à la préférence européenne. Ça sera pas le cas avec ce texte.
Deuxième point que je souhaitais évoquer également avec vous sur cet élément important qui est la question de la simplification. Nous avons décidé en conscience de faire un règlement.
Et je compte sur le Parlement européen pour défendre ce choix. Pourquoi nous avons fait un règlement ? Nous transformons trois directives qui étaient souvent sur-transposées dans les États membres en un règlement. Nous consolidons 23 textes réglementaires. Nous supprimons 700 pages de régulation européenne.
700. Et donc la législation européenne étant de 900 pages aujourd'hui, nous passons à 200. La proposition européenne que nous vous formulons est de 200 pages. C'est de la bureaucratie en moins, c'est de la bonne simplification et c'est un choix stratégique pour la Commission. J'entends ceux qui veulent repasser à une directive, mais nous nous battons contre le gold-plating tous les jours.
Il m'a semblé cohérent que la Commission assume ce passage de directive en règlement dans cette révision. Troisième élément qui est aussi important : le scope du Made in Europe. Sur le scope du Made in Europe, Madame Jauron, nous avons des engagements internationaux, certes.
Et d'ailleurs, nous avons des engagements internationaux qui sont réciproques. Et donc si nous ne respectons pas nos engagements internationaux, ni Alstom, ni Airbus, ni un certain nombre de grands groupes ne pourront accéder aux marchés publics d'autres partenaires. Et donc moi mon point c'est de dire respectons les engagements internationaux quand ils sont réciproques, qu'ils donnent l'ouverture à nos entreprises européennes à un marché public de nos partenaires. Mais attention, regardons la réciprocité de ces engagements. Et donc ils doivent permettre justement d'ouvrir des marchés pour les entreprises européennes.
C'est ce qui est écrit dans ce texte et c'est ce qui nous permet aussi d'être offensif à l'étranger et de gagner aussi des marchés dans le monde. Je pense que cette logique doit être une logique qui maintenant doit pouvoir se décliner dans tous les textes européens. Nous commençons par la révision des marchés publics, au moins donnez-moi ce point.
Merci. I will now give the floor to Mr. Arias Echeverría. You have one minute, please.
Pablo Arias Echeverría
Sí, muchas gracias, presidente, señor comisario. La contratación pública representa en torno al 15 % del PIB de la Unión Europea. Detrás de esa cifra hay hospitales, transporte, servicios públicos y empleo.
También una gran oportunidad para innovar y reforzar nuestra industria y autonomía estratégica, como señala Draghi en su informe. La reforma que debatimos plantea dos objetivos que compartimos: simplificación y contratación estratégica. Simplificar exige normas claras, seguridad jurídica, procedimientos digitales y menos barreras para las pymes. Contratar estratégicamente significa valorar la calidad y la innovación, además del precio, para ofrecer mejores servicios e infraestructuras para la ciudadanía. Pero nada de esto funcionará sin una aplicación rigurosa por parte de los Estados miembros con transparencia y rendición de cuentas.
Necesitamos normas armonizadas que conviertan la contratación pública en un instrumento de calidad, competitividad y futuro que proporcionen las herramientas necesarias para prevenir y combatir posibles prácticas de corrupción. Si esta es la línea que marca la Comisión Europea, como parece el caso, pueden contar con nosotros, señor comisario. Muchas gracias.
Juan Fernando López Aguilar
Thank you.
I will now give the floor to Mr. López Aguilar.
Madam President, comisario, cuando hablamos de simplificación no decimos desregulación. Y esta acción legislativa es un buen ejemplo porque sustituye directivas por un reglamento directamente vinculante para los Estados miembros en un asunto que importa nada menos que al 15% del producto bruto de la Unión Europea con la intención de reducir cargas burocráticas en la satisfacción de la acción de los poderes públicos cuando respetan servicios públicos contratando con cargo a fondos públicos. Es necesaria la transparencia para invertir bien, pero también es necesaria, por tanto, la flexibilización porque hemos escuchado muchas veces el mensaje de municipios y regiones, y particularmente las regiones ultraperiféricas como las francesas o la española, Canarias, quejándose de la burocracia y la dificultad de contratar de acuerdo con las normas europeas para poder satisfacer los servicios públicos, particularmente cuando realizan derechos fundamentales en el ámbito educativo, en el ámbito del transporte o en el ámbito de la sanidad. Por tanto, una iniciativa que debe ser saludada y aplicada con prontitud para mejorar la competitividad europea. Gracias, presidente.
Domnule comisar, stimați colegi, este clar că aveam nevoie de o modificare în domeniul achizițiilor publice și știți, domnule comisar, că la toate întâlnirile am ridicat această problemă că, da, avem nevoie de un regulament.
Maria Grapini
Ați spus două lucruri esențiale: simplificare, pentru că prin simplificare putem să evităm și anumite greșeli voite sau nevoite, dar și un cost foarte mare. De asemenea, ați spus că trebuie să ținem cont de criterii nu numai prețul cel mai mic. Dacă cineva ar calcula la achiziții publice în ultimii ani câți bani s-au risipit pentru că s-a câștigat cu prețul cel mai mic, după care s-a venit cu acte adiționale, după care s-au trebuit reparate, de fapt s-a cheltuit mult mai mult. Și da, este foarte bine să ținem cont de ceea ce ați și spus, Buy Europe, să existe această condiție. Însă asta nu înseamnă că nu trebuie să fim competitivi.
Asta nu înseamnă că nu trebuie să achiziționăm produsul cel mai bun pe criteriu de combinație calitate-preț. Și sper, domnule comisar, să nu stea blocat la Consiliu pentru că mai devreme colegul dumneavoastră spunea că reglementăm cu o viteză foarte mică și asta ne costă. Vă mulțumesc.
Thank you, Mr. Terheș. 350. Oh, you want to take the floor? I just called for... can you after that? All right.
Mr. Terheș, you have the floor.
Thank you.
Cristian Terheş
I think the European Commission, before lecturing us on public procurement act, should lead by example. In 2020-2021, the current President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, signed with different pharmaceutical companies contracts worth of 71 billion euros to purchase, and I quote, "4.6 billion doses of vaccines for the Europeans." We are 450 million people in Europe. Who gave her the authority in 2020-2021 to purchase more than 10 doses of vaccines per person? Furthermore, as of today in 2024, when we have this debate, those contracts are not fully published.
You're just claiming that you want to propose a new regulation worth of hundreds of pages. But the question is, when are you going to publish the contracts that were signed by von der Leyen so we can see the clauses in those contracts? Because of those clauses, my country now has to pay over 600 million euros to Pfizer for 28 million doses of vaccines that we did not buy because of those hidden clauses in those contracts. Thank you.
Your time is up. Thank you very much. Commissaire Séjourné, vous vouliez réagir à l'intervention précédente?
Stéphane Séjourné
Merci, Madame la Présidente.
Je ne répondrai pas parce que je pense que le temps est compté et nous avons besoin de travailler le fond de ce texte. Peut-être pour axer également un point essentiel de cette proposition. Nous créons une plateforme européenne avec une transparence totale de tous les marchés publics qui seraient proposés et les offres d'achat qui seraient proposées en Europe. Cette plateforme européenne viendrait à faire publier l'ensemble des offres publiques et des acheteurs publics qui souhaitent acheter en Europe sur une seule plateforme. Ça nous permet d'avoir toutes les datas judiciaires.
Aujourd'hui à peu près 30 % des marchés publiés en Europe n'ont pas des datas à jour et donc de lutter efficacement également contre la corruption d'avoir cette plateforme. Ça nous permet également de garantir des offres et donc de permettre aux PME partout en Europe d'avoir cette information qu'un marché public a été publié en France. Une PME espagnole pourrait avoir l'information.
Une municipalité en Allemagne, une ville et une entreprise polonaise pourraient avoir cette information. Et aujourd'hui, nous avons segmenté les bulles d'information et les bulles de publication qui nous permettront justement de casser cette segmentation. Donc je voulais peut-être attirer l'attention d'un élément qui nous paraît ici important et une nouveauté dans cette révision : l'achat public européen sera transparent, digitalisé, la lutte contre la corruption sera effective et permettra également à l'ensemble des PME européennes d'avoir accès dans toutes les langues de l'Union européenne les offres qui sont publiées en Europe. C'est une avancée incroyable que vous devez sauvegarder dans cette discussion parlementaire, que la Commission s'engage également à améliorer si un certain nombre de critères et de dispositions le nécessitaient.
Lukas Sieper
Merci, Mr. Sippel.
Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Commissioner, I will do you a favor and answer Mr. Zanni's question. Who gave Ms. von der Leyen the authority? The people when they elected this Parliament, this Parliament when it elected her as Commission President. Quite simple as that.
This does not mean that this whole thing was not a big communication mistake, but I think the Commission learned from that. Mr. Commissioner, you teach me a new word: Reziprozität.
You said that this should be a reason why we not follow through with only Buy European in certain cases. I understand your reasoning behind this. I also think there is a weakness, because in the end, we here in Europe, we fulfill our contracts, right? So if we sign a contract for public procurement with an outside EU company, we will fulfill that contract. On the other hand, in the US, maybe they elect the next crazy president.
In Russia, maybe there's the next war of aggression. Or let's say with the Gulf States, suddenly their salination plants are bombed and their society breaks down. I think we should first and foremost focus on Buy European in all circumstances, and this will bring us forward. Thank you very much.
Da, din păcate doar ne arătați că din 900 de pagini ajungeți la 200. Însă tăiați hârtiile, dar tăiați și controalele. Unde este registrul de conflict de interese? Unde este verificarea legăturilor dintre primar și firma câștigătoare? Le-ați scos.
Diana Iovanovici Şoşoacă
Totul este digitalizat, totul este automat și atunci vă întreb cum puteți să verificați conflictul de interese. Inventați criteriul Buy European doar ca să excludeți de la masa contractelor firmele din est. Vorbesc în primul rând de România. Nu mai cumpărăm decât de la multinaționale, decât de la firmele franceze și germane, de la amărâtul de producător român nu mai cumpărăm nimic. Vreți să mai puține acte, publicați contractele secrete.
Și vă cer audit european pe achizițiile din PNRR și pe achizițiile militare secrete din România din ultimii cinci ani. Modificați directiva 2014/24 care să permită preferința națională de 30% pentru IMM-urile locale, alimente, energie și materiale de construcții. Vă mulțumesc.
Stéphane Séjourné
Merci Madame la Présidente, non pour noter quand même au compte-rendu que tout ce qui vient d'être dit est faux. Est faux. Et donc nous avons digitalisé pour permettre aux PME roumaines d'accéder plus facilement à des marchés publics dont elles n'ont pas accès aujourd'hui.
Nous avons digitalisé pour lutter contre la corruption. Nous avons digitalisé pour justement rendre plus clairs les marchés publics. Et nous avons réduit de 700 pages la régulation. C'était je crois une de vos demandes de simplification mais vous arrivez encore à vous plaindre.
Merci Monsieur le Commissaire. The next item on the agenda is recommendation for second reading by Mr. Goting establishing the Union Customs Code and the European Union Customs Authority. First I will give the floor to Mr. Goting, rapporteur.
Dirk Gotink
Thank you Madam Chair. Mr. Commissioner. Oh, I see the Commissioner Séjourné. Is this going off my time Madam President?
It looks like it but we are going to put back to form in. I understand you want that the Commissioner hear your words. I understand that.
Dirk Gotink
Thank you very much. Madam Chair, during the COVID lockdowns, Europeans massively turned to the internet and started buying online.
Ever since e-commerce has been supercharged. And if you would go to the big hubs in Schiphol or Liège or Charles de Gaulle, you would see piles of thousands of individual packages, but also speed and efficiency, because Europe has the biggest but also the easiest market in the world to get into. We've had a single market since '93, but until today we have 27 different national customs and even more fragmented IT systems and enforcement. And in today's world, that is simply a recipe for economic disaster. Chairwoman, let me paint the picture of a toxic business model, out of control and extremely damaging to our economies.
No liability for the products that you put on the market, unlimited border and policy shopping, and it's even tax-free. Well, not surprisingly, in '26 the volume of low-value goods imported from China is four times higher than it was in '22, an average of 16 million per day. More than 90% of these products come from China, more than 70% do not are not made not according to our rules. So the scale of this toxic business model is shown by the consequences of scrapping the tax exemption, the de minimis. That meant in the Netherlands minus 46% of packages in the last two months.
That means for half of the products it is not profitable to send them into the European market only because they pay 3 euros in taxes, because they actually pay taxes. It is no exaggeration to call this trade flow simply tax-free trash. And with this legislation we are finally killing this business model. And while Temu and Shein could do all of this without liability, our businesses had to meet EU regulations and pay their taxes. European businesses, they get controlled excessively because they have real addresses, they have assets and they are known to public administrations.
Platforms from China operate like rogue traders with fake addresses, phone numbers and and so-called representatives, ghost companies that disappear when you try to reach them. This unfair competition, which is causing a wildfire of insolvencies in European retail, destroys the support of our entrepreneurs for the single market and adds mountains of waste into our congested and costly recycling systems. We are changing that with this legislation. 80,000 customs officers in Europe, they deserve our support. It's it's time to give them the digital tools to effectively protect our market, citizens and businesses.
It is not just e-commerce. Customs authorities apply over 400 EU regulations, ranging from CBAM, we will vote on it again this week, Russian sanctions or product safety and forced labor.
And the number is growing with every mandate. So for too long, national governments have cut costs on customs and market surveillance. If we want to leverage our economic power in the world, we need to integrate and strengthen them. And that is why I'm very proud that we will adopt the Union Customs Code this week. It is the most ambitious and comprehensive reform of the EU Customs Union since its establishment in 1968.
We're doing many great things like integrating a data system, so a data hub. We're closing the liability loophole. We're doing harmonized penalties to tackle those traders that are undermining our rules. We're letting EPPO and OLAF go after that data and find organized crime that is stealing money from the European budget. And all this is pro-trade, pro-security, and pro-consumers.
I will use my second speaking time in order to thank everyone that needs to be thanked. But for now, I'm very happy that we can close this file this week and move on to the implementation. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr. Gothin. Commissioner Šefčovič.
Maroš Šefčovič
Madam President, honorable members. The customs reform has been a collective effort towards the shared objective of upgrading our customs union, ensuring that it will finally act as one and better serve our single market. To fully support our economic security and prosperity, I will use my time now and I would like to thank our rapporteur, Mr. Goting, but also Madam Chair of IMCO Committee, Madam Cavazzini, shadow rapporteurs and their teams for their work. And I also want to appreciate close cooperation with the Council and successive presidency for bringing this file finally home. The problems with the current framework have been widely acknowledged.
Be it the fragmentation between 27 national customs authorities and separate digital systems, or the increasing number of rules and standards to enforce at the border: product safety, international sanctions, environmental measures, trade defense instruments, to name just few, as our rapporteur just mentioned couple of minutes ago.
And all this in a complex and unstable geopolitical context where business models such as e-commerce have put our resources under strain. Our comprehensive response comes in the form of the customs reform designed to bring tangible benefits to Europeans and European businesses as well as our administration. It puts customs data under a single roof, bringing together the Member States, which remain the first line of action, and a new EU Customs Authority based in Lille. It also introduces the EU Customs Data Hub, which will progressively become the single entry point for traders across the Union. That means the data will only need to be submitted once for all operations to the European Union.
This represents significant simplifications and savings worth up to 1 billion euros per year for EU businesses of all sizes, from SMEs to big companies. E-commerce operators will have access to the hub as of 1st of July 2028, with other operators able to start using it by 2031.
In addition, the reform enables transparent companies to gain a new Trust and Check status with simplified procedures in return for the data and compliance they provide. The customs reform also restores fairness in e-commerce, another point our rapporteur just mentioned. Platforms and sellers, not the consumer, will be considered the importer and held responsible for payment of duties and compliance with EU law, with financial penalties for those who systematically fail to comply. Since July 1st, e-commerce parcels entering the EU have been subject to a 3 euro temporary duty. The preliminary data show a drop in number of these low-value parcels.
While it is still too early to draw firm conclusions, possible circumvention or opportunistic logistics models continue to be carefully monitored. As of 1st of November, the EU handling fee will be also paid on low-value parcels. Honorable members, the customs reform is a key moment for our Customs Union and there are high expectations. We must ensure that it delivers on strengthening the single market, enhancing our sovereign data management capacities, supporting our economic security and protecting citizens.
The timely implementation of the reform is of the utmost importance and Commission will report back to this House regularly on the progress made. So once again, thank you very much all for great cooperation. Merci, Madame la Présidente.
Merci, Mrs. Grapini, you have the floor.
Maria Grapini
Mulțumesc, domnule comisar, stimați colegi, ani de zile am lucrat să avem un nou regulament vamal. Și sigur n-a fost ușor să ne înțelegem noi raportorii cu Comisia mai bine, cu Consiliul mai puțin bine. Am parcurs mai multe președinții, iată că am ajuns la acest pas. Este bine, eu trebuie să spun că nu sunt 100% mulțumită, domnule comisar, dumneavoastră știți de la momentul în care negociam. Mi-aș fi dorit ca acea taxă de manipulare să ajungă la punctele vamale în statele membre pentru că, vedeți, avem nevoie de resursă umană bine calificată.
Ne trebuie resursă financiară să calificăm. Avem peste 2000 de puncte vamale, peste 80000 de lucrători. Nu avem echipamente în toate punctele vamale. Și atunci chiar dacă regulamentul este gândit bine, dacă nu avem și această resursă umană bine pregătită și resursă financiară, punerea în aplicare nu va duce la ceea ce noi ne dorim și anume o protecție adevărată a pieței interne. Sigur ne asigură și o concurență loială pentru că producătorii din Uniunea Europeană nu erau protejați în momentul în care intrau produse contrafăcute.
Vă mulțumesc.
Virginie Joron
Thank you. Madame Joron.
Il faut faire vite. Merci Madame la Présidente, Monsieur le Rapporteur, Monsieur le Commissaire, chers collègues. Effectivement de longs mois après de négociations nous sommes enfin à ce vote. Cette réforme était nécessaire, le cadre actuel n'a plus été actualisé depuis 2013 et ne répond plus suffisamment pardon aux difficultés auxquelles nos douaniers étaient confrontés. Donc nous saluons cette réforme mais nous ne l'adouberons pas.
Car ce règlement introduit des frais de gestion qui à partir du 1er janvier 2028 alimenteront le budget de l'Union européenne et comme vous le savez c'est une ligne rouge pour nous. Car cet argent devrait en priorité servir nos douaniers. Il ne doit pas devenir une nouvelle ressource permettant à Bruxelles de financer ses priorités, je prends comme pour exemple financement des ONG ou pour promouvoir le Green Deal. Ensuite parce que nous ouvrons une brèche. Une fois que c'est ouvert on le sait, une fois qu'on a ouvert la porte et bien on trouve d'autres frais et ça va se cumuler on le sait c'est la stratégie des petits pas.
Un petit prélèvement aujourd'hui, un nouveau demain et puis toujours davantage de ressources qui échappent aux États membres au profit du budget européen.
C'est pourquoi malgré tout ce travail et que je félicite puisqu'en quatre minutes vous avez réussi à faire le résumé de milliers d'heures de travail et d'ailleurs je félicite tout le monde, tous les rapporteurs fictifs pour ce travail. Mais évidemment parce qu'il y a encore tous ces frais nous nous abstiendrons sur ce dossier. Je vous remercie.
Merci Mr Nesci. You have a minute please.
Denis Nesci
Grazie Presidente, Commissario. La riforma del Codice doganale dell'Unione rappresenta la revisione più ambiziosa del sistema doganale già dalla sua nascita nel 1968. Da relatore ombra ho seguito questo dossier con i miei colleghi attraverso un lungo e intenso lavoro negoziale con un obiettivo preciso: rafforzare i controlli, aumentare la sicurezza e garantire le condizioni di concorrenza leale alle nostre imprese. Tra i principali risultati vi è la creazione della nuova autorità dell'Unione, EUCA, insieme al Data Hub europeo. Non è soltanto una modernizzazione amministrativa, è un passo verso una maggiore capacità dell'Unione Europea di conoscere, controllare e governare ciò che entra nel nostro mercato.
Una capacità ancora più necessaria di fronte alla crescita dell'e-commerce, che ha ampliato le opportunità per i consumatori, ma anche i rischi legati ai prodotti non conformi, contraffatti e non sicuri. Questa riforma va quindi nella direzione giusta: più sicurezza e maggiore tutela per i cittadini e impresa, senza ostacolare il commercio legittimo.
L'Europa deve essere competitiva, ma non vulnerabile, deve proteggere il proprio mercato, chi ogni giorno produce e investe per creare lavoro. Grazie.
Jeannette Baljeu
Voorzitter, iedere dag overspoelen miljoenen pakketjes van platforms als Temu en Shein onze markt. Vaak nauwelijks gecontroleerd, onveilig en tegen voorwaarden waar Europese ondernemers onmogelijk tegenop kunnen concurreren. Met dit akkoord over de nieuwe EU-douanewet pakken we dit probleem eindelijk bij de bron aan. E-commerce platforms worden verantwoordelijk voor de producten die zij op onze markt verkopen. Wie verdient aan de Europese consument moet ook aansprakelijk zijn als een product niet veilig is of niet aan onze regels voldoet.
We stimuleren bovendien gecontroleerde bulkimport via Europese warenhuizen. Bedrijven die hun zaken op orde hebben worden hiermee beloond. En wie miljoenen pakketjes blijft sturen en de regels omzeilt gaat meer betalen. Ook gaat de douane meer samenwerken en komt er een Europese data hub. Zo beschermen we de consument beter.
We hebben goed met de collega-Europarlementariërs samengewerkt en dat laat zien: we kunnen als Europa sterk staan als we het samen doen.
Thank you, Madame Chaibi. Vous avez la parole pour une minute.
Leila Chaibi
Merci, Madame la Présidente. Chers collègues, avec cette réforme du code des douanes, une fois n'est pas coutume, nous avons un bon texte pour l'Europe. Nous envoyons un signal clair, notamment aux plateformes chinoises: l'Union européenne, ça n'est pas open bar. Cerise sur le gâteau, l'autorité européenne des douanes siégera en France, à Lille, que de bonnes nouvelles. Mais je regrette que ce sursaut de fermeté soit l'exception plutôt que la règle, car la grande majorité du temps, quand il s'agit de défendre nos intérêts face aux empires, l'Europe se couche.
Je pense bien sûr aux menaces commerciales étasuniennes qui nous ont fait capituler en quelques semaines, acceptant des droits de douane unilatéraux, quelle humiliation. Je pense à notre dépendance aux géants américains de la tech qui viennent piller notre électricité, nos données personnelles, qui s'attaquent à notre souveraineté et agissent comme si nous étions leur colonie numérique. Cette réforme du code des douanes nous montre que parfois, même si trop rarement, mais parfois, il arrive que l'Union européenne défende ses intérêts, impose ses règles sans se coucher.
Hélder Sousa Silva
Que cela devienne une méthode et non un accident de parcours.
Muito obrigado, senhora presidente, senhor relator, senhor comissário. A presente reforma do Código Aduaneiro da União Europeia é claramente um importante passo para a preservação do mercado interno da União, para a defesa dos consumidores europeus e, acima de tudo, para a promoção da competitividade das empresas europeias. Enquanto relator da Comissão de Orçamentos para este regulamento, congratulo-me pelo resultado global obtido, mas especialmente pela introdução de taxas sobre as pequenas encomendas provenientes do comércio online produzido fora da União Europeia. Direi que só peca por ser tardia. Esta taxa, além de reforçar a competitividade das empresas europeias face à concorrência desleal, sobretudo das plataformas chinesas, permite o reforço do investimento nas prioridades da União Europeia, principalmente porque as receitas serão aplicadas no reforço do orçamento europeu.
Congratulo por isso o senhor relator, o senhor comissário e todos os intervenientes neste processo.
Muito obrigado, senhora presidente.
Thank you. I will now give the floor to Mr. López Aguilar. 315.
Juan Fernando López Aguilar
Thank you, Madam President. Comisario Šefčovič, esta legislatura arrancó con la valoración de los informes Letta y Draghi, poniendo de manifiesto que a pesar de que la unión aduanera y la conformación de un mercado interior eran objetivos congénitos de la construcción europea, después de todas estas décadas continúa lejos de ser plenamente alcanzado. Y por tanto, este establecimiento de un código aduanero y de una autoridad aduanera europea destinada a remover finalmente las barreras arancelarias y no arancelarias que todavía están obstaculizando la incorporación en toda Europa de manera equitativa al mercado digital y a las compras online que se han revolucionado en los últimos años es un paso en la buena dirección.
Pero tengo que aprovechar este minuto para poner el foco en las dificultades especiales que padecen las regiones ultraperiféricas para incorporarse al mercado online. Porque allí sí que se ven no solamente las dificultades arancelarias, sino las no arancelarias y las impuestas por sistemas fiscales específicos de islas alejadas para poder disfrutar plenamente de la incorporación a un mercado online que merezca llamarse europeo. Gracias, presidenta.
Sebastian Tynkkynen
Arvoisa puhemies. Eurooppa on tavaravyöryn alla. Tilastojen mukaan edellisvuonna Eurooppaan saapui järisyttävät 4.6 miljardia verkkokaupan pakettia, joiden arvo oli 150 euroa. Mutta itseppä tätä vyöryä olemme olleet houkuttelemassa. Alle 150 euron paketteja on tänne saanut vyöryttää ilman minkäänlaista tullimaksua, vaikka tulliviranomaisemme ovatkin olleet helisemässä.
Hätäratkaisuna alle 150 euron paketeille on otettu nyt käyttöön kolmen euron tullimaksu. Kiltti on EU:n linja. Miettikää nyt millä kaikilla velvoitteilla, sääntelyillä ja maksuilla täällä kuritetaan tavallisia eurooppalaisia kansalaisia sekä yrityksiä. Jos me samaan aikaan olemme valmiita laittamaan kiinalaistuojille vain kolmen euron maksun, niin me suorastaan silitämme pandan turkkia. Eurooppa tarvitsee kovempia otteita.
Kiitos.
Ciaran Mullooly
Thank you, Chair, and thank you to the rapporteur for the work that's been done on this Union Customs Code. I look forward to it offering greater legal certainty and indeed uniformity to businesses and increasing clarity for customs officials throughout the EU. On a related matter, I'd like to ask the Trade Commissioner about the implementation of the Mercosur trade agreement and custom-related issues. As you know, provisional implementation is underway, but your colleague, the Health and Safety Commissioner, Kyriakides, has put in place measures to ban, effectively ban Brazilian beef from traveling. Notwithstanding that, in Europe, this beef is coming into the UK and Northern Ireland, which is part of our European single market as it stands.
So I have to ask the Commissioner if he can give us assurances that the food safety of Europe will be standards will be protected by customs officials, notwithstanding the unusual situation that the people of Northern Ireland face at the moment when it comes to keeping Brazilian beef out. Thank you.
Dimitris Tsiodras
Thank you, Mr. Theodoras. 743.
Thank you. Ευχαριστώ, κύριε Πρόεδρε. Καιρός ήταν. Η μεταρρύθμιση της Τελωνειακής Ένωσης είναι η προϋπόθεση ώστε η Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση να δράσει αποτελεσματικά για να αντιμετωπίσει την εισροή εκατομμυρίων προϊόντων που δεν πληρούν τα πρότυπα ασφαλείας της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης.
Θέλω να συγχαρώ για αυτή τη δουλειά και την Κομισιόν και τον Dirk για την εξαιρετική προσπάθεια που έκανε. Σύμφωνα με τα πρώτα στοιχεία της εφαρμογής της εξαίρεσης υποβολής των μικρών πακέτων σε δασμούς, η ροή τέτοιων δεμάτων έχει μειωθεί έως και 50% σε ορισμένα σημεία εισόδου. Ωστόσο η κλίμακα και η πολυπλοκότητα αυτής της πρόκλησης είναι τεράστιες. Για αυτό το λόγο χρειαζόμαστε ταχίστη εφαρμογή της τελωνειακής μεταρρύθμισης για να κλείσουμε τα υφιστάμενα κενά. Αλλά κυρίως χρειαζόμαστε πανευρωπαϊκή συνεργασία και ομοιόμορφη εφαρμογή της συμφωνίας ώστε να αποτρέψουμε το φαινόμενο εταιρείες αυτές να επιλέγουν το πιο ευνοϊκό τελωνειακό σημείο εισόδου.
Μόνο έτσι οι Ευρωπαίοι καταναλωτές θα νιώθουν ότι προστατεύονται στην ενιαία αγορά και οι επιχειρήσεις δεν θα υφίστανται άνισο ανταγωνισμό από πλατφόρμες τρίτων χωρών. Ευχαριστώ.
Cristian Terheş
Thank you, Mr. Terheș 350.
Da, mulțumesc.
Domnule comisar, stau și mă întreb dacă dezbaterea la care asist aici este într-o plenară a Partidului Comunist sau în plenul Parlamentului European, care ar trebui să vorbească despre principii cum ar fi o economie de piață. În discursurile și în dezbaterile anterioare s-a vorbit despre toate aceste reglementări europene care ridică taxele și impozitele produselor manufacturate în Europa. Dumneavoastră veniți acum și spuneți că Europa are nevoie de un nou cod vamal și, implicit, de o nouă autoritate europeană care să verifice produsele din afara UE care intră în Europa, pentru că respectivele produse ar fi mai ieftine. Întrebarea este, și sper că v-ați pus-o: dar de ce produsele europene sunt mai scumpe decât toate produsele din afara UE? V-ați întrebat despre acest lucru?
De ce produsele europene nu sunt mai ieftine și să aibă alte țări problema intrării produselor europene pe piața lor, nu problema pe care noi o avem, că produse din China, de exemplu, sunt mai ieftine și intră la noi? Cum se face că un stat comunist, cum e China, ajunge să producă produse și bunuri mai ieftine decât Europa? Ar trebui să răspundeți la acest lucru înainte de a propune noi taxe.
Thank you, sir. I don't like to cut the mic, but you are extending your time all the time. So, Mr. Pieper.
Lukas Sieper
Mr. Commissioner, I have a problem. I drive too fast, so I get a lot of tickets.
Back when I lived in Germany, my car was registered under my mother's name, so she gets all the tickets sent to her home. She's very unhappy about that. So now that I moved to Brussels, I want to register my car under my name in Belgium. You could maybe imagine my surprise when I learned that for that I need a customs certificate from the Belgian state to bring my seven-year-old car from Germany to Belgium and register it there. I think this has nothing to do with an internal market.
I think this has nothing to do with the European Union. I think someone should be able to move a car from one Member State to the other without having to deal with the customs authorities. So, Mr. Commissioner, for the sake of my mother and her suffering, please be as fast with this as I am on the street with my car. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Mrs. Jovanovici, 860, you have a minute.
Da. Înființați o autoritate vamală europeană la Lille, în Franța, cu 285 de birocrați care să controleze vămile, inclusiv vama României. Și vă întreb: de ce la Lille? Pentru că dacă nu-i Franța, e Germania, dacă nu-i Germania, e Franța.
Diana Iovanovici Şoşoacă
Restul nu contează. De ce la Lille și nu la Albița sau la Constanța, pe unde intră cam toate mărfurile, inclusiv drogurile din Ucraina care vin ascunse sub cerealele modificate genetic și care îmbolnăvesc în general cam toate animalele din România, după care avem pestă inventată. Bineînțeles că după aceea puneți taxă de 3 euro pe fiecare colet. Bineînțeles că vă deranjează China, pentru că acolo toate sunt mai ieftine, dar nu vă gândiți la săraci. În România 70% sunt săraci.
Din aceștia 30% trăiesc sub pragul sărăciei. Știți că anul acesta am avut cazul unei familii care a murit de foame? O fetiță de 4 ani a fost găsită moartă de foame în România, iar dumneavoastră nu permiteți tinerilor să-și mai cumpere o haină și ceva din China pentru că dumneavoastră ați distrus Europa.
Sophie Wilmès
Thank you. I will now give the floor to Commissioner Šefčovič, please.
Maroš Šefčovič
Thank you very much, Madam President, and I also want to thank for all the encouraging and positive remarks, but also the questions coming from the honorable members. And I think that overriding message which we heard in this debate was that finally we are moving to the first integrated policy if it comes to creation of the true modernized Customs Union, and that it would help the integration of our systems, it would increase the efficiency. And I would like to say to all those who've been questioning the financial issues that this brings huge savings by more than a billion euros a year to national administrations. It will increase dramatically the efficiency because instead of 111 softwares we will have one, and we have fully trained officials who will be looking at all kinds of data and statistics to make sure that our customs officials can do their jobs properly, efficiently, and protect not only our citizens, but also European single market.
And I know that I'm already 13 seconds over the time, so I just would say one last thing about the handling fee. We are working on it. You will get the delegated act very soon. It should enter into... it should be introduced as of 1st of January. And just to reassure Madame Grapini, we are just following the budgetary rules where duties and the fees are split in a way that 75% goes for the EU budget, 25% goes for the Member States.
Thank you very much, Madam President.
Thank you. We will now hear from the rapporteur, Mr. Goting.
Dirk Gotink
Thank you very much. And I said I was going to use this to thank my colleagues, and which is what I will do. My gratitude, of course, to the Commissioner, Mr. Šefčovič, and Charlotte and Sophia and the team, the Danish and Cypriot presidencies, DG TAXUD, and the many customs experts who helped make this very important and urgent reform possible. Also President Metsola, because we also created a new procedure to appoint an authority or an agency, which is a blueprint, I hope, for the next time we have to do it. It was a big institutional, let's say, highlight of this process.
So I'm very happy with that. Of course, the support of the IMCO Secretariat, Marco and Elena, and the shadow rapporteurs and their advisors. I'm grateful also for the unity that we have shown also in this debate.
It also shows that when it comes to some economic issues, we can actually achieve more together and also with a strong block of support. And then last but not least, of course, my own team and office and in the EPP group, they did a great job. Colleagues, there are 85 delegated acts in this piece of legislation. And one of them is about the handling fee, but there's a lot of... we've got to build a customs authority in Lille. There will be 250 to 350 people working there in a couple of years' time.
This is still a very, very big work in progress, and we will need also the support of the IMCO committee, Anna, in pushing this forward, because the implementation does not go by itself. The fact that the member states were blocking this for 20 years doesn't mean that all of a sudden they're now going to do everything that's in the law. So let's keep on pushing and let's keep on making customs stronger again. Thank you.
Thank you very much. Debate is closed. The vote will be held on Wednesday. The PfE group has notified the President of decisions relating to changes to appointments within committees.
Sophie Wilmès
These decisions will be set out in the minutes of today's sitting and take effect on the day of this announcement. So we will now go with the Commission statement on government crackdowns on the LGBTQI+ community in Turkey, Turkey's compliance with its international commitments of non-discrimination. And I will first give the floor to Commissioner Šefčovič. Please, you have the floor.
Maroš Šefčovič
Madam President, honorable members of the European Parliament, as you well know, this debate was added to the agenda of the plenary only few hours ago, so Commissioner Dalli cannot be here to change the plans so quickly, but she asked me to deliver this statement on her behalf.
And I think you already heard also the reaction of the Commission this afternoon, where Commission has publicly expressed earlier today that we share your concern and follow closely the recent arrests and legal proceedings initiated against LGBTQI+ activists, human rights associations and businesses, as well as of the blockages of websites and social media accounts accompanied with allegations concerning funding of civil society organizations. The Commission recalls that Türkiye as an EU candidate country and a long-standing member of the Council of Europe must promote and ensure respect for the human rights and dignity of all individuals irrespective of their gender identity or sexual orientation. Let me underline that stigmatization and discrimination are contrary to the values of the Union. Civil society organizations, including those working on human rights, health and support services should be able to operate freely, safely and without discrimination in line with the rule of law. Support to civil society by international partners is a well-established practice.
Targeting foreign donors that work in a transparent and accountable manner may threaten freedom of association, pluralism and civic space. I would like to recall that the last year's enlargement report on Türkiye already explicitly recommended improvements to the legislative framework and its enforcement to effectively combat discrimination and protect LGBTQI+ persons from all forms of discrimination. And we reiterate our call on Türkiye to implement these recommendations. Democracy, the rule of law and respect for fundamental rights are central to the EU accession process. Recent negative developments gives rise to questions about the rule of law, fundamental rights, democratic pluralism and the independence of the judiciary.
They will be assessed and reflected in the upcoming 2026 enlargement report. Thank you, Madam President.
Isabel Wiseler-Lima
Thank you, I will now give the floor to Mrs. Wissler.
J'ai un grand respect pour la nation turque et pour le peuple turc. Le mouvement dans lequel nous nous sommes engagés ensemble il y a 25 ans faisait sens car la Turquie n'a pas demandé un accord commercial, elle a demandé son adhésion et nous lui avons reconnu le statut de candidat. Cela supposait les critères de Copenhague : État de droit, pluralisme, non-discrimination, dignité de chaque être humain. Les négociations sont gelées. Ce statut, lui, demeure.
L'opération de police visant associations, militants et lieux de vie de la communauté LGBTQI+ est perçue comme une intimidation.
Selon le ministre turc de la Justice lui-même, plus de 160 personnes font l'objet de procédures, 9 associations et 13 établissements sont concernés. La veille, des dizaines de sites et de comptes avaient déjà été bloqués. Protéger les enfants et les familles est un objectif que ici personne ne conteste, mais sa légitimité même interdit qu'il serve de prétexte. Ce sont des associations légalement enregistrées qui sont visées, dont l'objet statutaire est la défense de droits reconnus. Rappelons-le, l'homosexualité n'est pas une infraction en droit turc.
Une raison parmi beaucoup d'autres de s'inquiéter : lorsque le soutien international à la société civile devient un objet d'enquête, c'est la coopération entre nos sociétés civiles qui est fragilisée. N'oublions pas les personnes. Dans beaucoup de pays, appartenir à cette communauté expose à la prison, parfois à pire. Ces femmes et ces hommes le savent. Ils lisent les mêmes nouvelles que nous.
C'est pourquoi une descente de police au petit matin ne se lit jamais comme un simple acte de procédure. Elle se lit à la lumière de tout le reste. Ces poursuites sont engagées, ces gardes à vue ont lieu, espérons qu'elles n'aboutiront pas. Dans un monde où nous aurions tout intérêt à nous rapprocher, il est regrettable de voir la Turquie s'écarter des valeurs qu'elle s'est elle-même engagée à respecter.
Je vous remercie.
Nacho Sánchez Amor
Gracias, presidenta, comisario. La reciente represión contra organizaciones activistas LGTB en Turquía se enmarca en una campaña oficial que las autoridades turcas llaman cínicamente "mi familia está segura". Siempre la excusa de la familia, como si las personas homosexuales no tuvieran padre, madre, hermanos, hijos y nietos. Se trata de una perversión del lenguaje con el solo objeto de atacar a un colectivo muy concreto en base a visiones reaccionarias y para distraer de otros asuntos. Las familias en Turquía y en el resto del mundo se protegen ayudando a que puedan llegar a fin de mes.
Las familias se protegen luchando de verdad contra la violencia de género. Las familias se protegen atacando la impunidad contra los matrimonios forzados de niñas menores. Las familias se protegen cumpliendo la Constitución turca y los convenios internacionales. Las familias no se protegen por la imposición de una moral producto de una interpretación de una religión, y mucho más en un país que hizo del laicismo uno de los elementos fundadores de la actual República. En Turquía hay un grave problema legal.
Se ha puesto fin al principio de la responsabilidad penal individual. Gracias.
Lukas Sieper
Liebe Menschen Europas, die türkische Regierung möchte erreichen, dass man nicht über queere Menschen redet. Die türkische Regierung möchte nicht erreichen, dass man nicht über Politik redet. Ich persönlich halte es für keine gute Idee, nicht über Politik zu reden. Freunde, kämpft für eure Rechte, steht füreinander ein und seid solidarisch. Wir haben es uns viel zu lange bequem gemacht.
Ich finde es absolut selbstverständlich, dass man für Werte eintritt, für Vielfalt, für Weltoffenheit, für die Freiheit, gegen Homophobie, gegen Sexismus, gegen Rassismus und für ein Miteinander. Die Würde des Menschen ist unantastbar oder wie Nura sagt: Die AfD. Dankeschön.
Thank you, Madame Camara.
Chers collègues, en Turquie, des défenseurs des droits humains sont arrêtés, leur domicile perquisitionné et leurs organisations criminalisées pour une seule raison : ils et elles défendent les personnes LGBTQIA+.
Camara
Ce n'est pas seulement une attaque contre une communauté. C'est une offensive autoritaire contre toute la société civile, contre celles et ceux qui refusent de se taire, contre celles et ceux qui refusent de baisser la tête. De cette tribune, je rends hommage à tous les activistes sur place, à tous mes camarades de lutte, à mes amis et tous les autres. Je les verrai à la fin de cette semaine à Istanbul. Je rencontrerai cette société civile que le gouvernement turc cherche à faire disparaître.
Je veux leur dire aujourd'hui depuis ce Parlement : vous n'êtes pas seuls. Nous sommes avec vous. Et nous devons regarder cette répression pour ce qu'elle est : une attaque directe contre l'État de droit et les droits et les libertés fondamentales. Lorsqu'un gouvernement traque celles et ceux qui défendent les droits humains, il cherche à imposer le silence et la peur. Mais notre solidarité ne peut pas se limiter à des mots.
La Commission et le Conseil doivent condamner immédiatement cette répression, exiger la libération des personnes détenues et défendre concrètement les activistes qui font vivre la démocratie aujourd'hui en Turquie. L'Union européenne doit soutenir les organisations menacées et offrir une protection effective aux militantes et militants en danger. Leur combat pour la justice, pour la liberté et pour la dignité est aussi le nôtre. Face à l'internationale réactionnaire, nous resterons debout.
Merci, Mrs Morace.
Carolina Morace
Grazie, grazie Presidente. Quanto accaduto in Turchia contro la comunità LGBTQ+ è gravissimo. Il fermo di decine di persone, la perquisizione di abitazioni e sedi di associazioni come Kaos GL e persino di bar e discoteche. Questo accade all'interno del decennio della famiglia proclamato dal Presidente Erdogan. L'attacco alla comunità LGBTQ+ viene giustificato in nome della famiglia e della difesa dell'ordine sociale.
Ma noi dobbiamo dire forte e chiaro che proteggere la famiglia non significa perseguitare chi è diverso. Difendere l'ordine sociale non vuol dire cancellare le libertà fondamentali. La morale non può diventare uno strumento di repressione. Qui in quest'aula non dobbiamo avere dubbi. I diritti umani non sono negoziabili e non possono mai e poi mai dipendere dall'orientamento sessuale o dall'identità di genere.
La Turchia non rispetta lo stato di diritto e i diritti fondamentali, la libertà di espressione e di associazione.
Insomma, la Turchia non vuole garantire libertà e dignità alle minoranze. Noi non possiamo voltarci dall'altra parte, il silenzio significa essere complici e noi come Unione Europea dobbiamo rivedere gli accordi di cooperazione tutti con quei paesi che non rispettano i valori fondamentali. A nome mio e del Movimento 5 Stelle esprimo tutta la nostra solidarietà e vicinanza alla comunità LGBTQ+ turca e a tutti gli attivisti che nel mondo si battono per i diritti di ogni persona. Grazie.
Grazie. I will now call Mrs. Borchardt. You have two minutes speaking for ESN.
Irmhild Boßdorf
Keiner weiß, wie viel Geld in den letzten Jahren in die Türkei geflossen sind, um auch dort die LGBTQ-Agenda zu forcieren. Waren es dreieinhalb Millionen Dollar aus Frankreich, den USA und Deutschland? Gab es noch weitere Finanztransfers aus Deutschland? Sind es aus Schweden wirklich nur 3,1 Millionen Euro gewesen? Wie viel wurde bislang ausgezahlt und vor allem, was genau sollte eigentlich gefördert werden?
Die Liste der Vorwürfe, die die türkischen Behörden gegen den in ihrem Land aktiven LGBTQ-Verein erheben, ist lang: Obszönität, Prostitution, Drogenhandel, Alkoholschmuggel, Schusswaffen und vor allem ein massiver Eingriff in die Sicherheit der Familie.
Ja, ich verstehe, dass es unseren selbsternannten Kämpfern für die LGBTQIA+-Community schwerfällt zu akzeptieren, dass die Türkei keine Beeinflussung von Minderjährigen über ihre sexuelle Orientierung möchte und diese auch nicht erlaubt. Es fällt ihnen offenbar auch schwer zu verstehen, dass es Religionen gibt, die heterosexistisch sind, die Homosexualität und Transsexualität einfach ablehnen. Und ich verstehe auch die Aufregung über die Festnahme von Aktivisten der KAOS GL und über Hausdurchsuchungen. Nur, was maßen wir EU-Parlamentarier uns schon wieder an, anderen unseren Lebensentwurf vorschreiben zu wollen? Wie kommen wir auf die Idee, mit massiven Geldströmen anderen Staaten unsere politische Agenda aufzwingen zu wollen?
Wenn wir in der Welt noch ernst genommen werden wollen, müssen wir endlich damit aufhören, uns als Menschheitsbeglücker aufzuführen. Wir müssen endlich akzeptieren, dass nicht jeder unseren Green Deal, unsere Migrationspolitik und unsere Queer-Agenda gut findet. Denn nur dann werden wir in den kommenden Jahren und Jahrzehnten überhaupt noch als ein ernsthafter Gesprächspartner wahrgenommen werden. Vielen Dank.
Sophie Wilmès
I will now call Mr. Vázquez Lázara. You have the floor for one and a half minutes.
Adrián Vázquez Lázara
Gracias, presidenta, comisario. Las noticias que llegan de Turquía merecen la máxima atención de este Parlamento.
La prensa internacional ha reportado acciones judiciales contra 162 personas, nueve asociaciones y 13 locales vinculados al colectivo LGTBI. Y de confirmarse, estamos hablando de auténticas redadas contra una comunidad concreta disfrazadas de lucha contra el proxenetismo. Desgraciadamente, este no es un episodio aislado. Se trata del último capítulo de una bochornosa deriva contra las libertades individuales en la Turquía del señor Erdogan. Un ataque discriminatorio promovido por el Estado que busca, a través de la política del miedo, desmantelar la sociedad civil en general y destruir la comunidad LGTBI en particular.
Han pasado ya 12 años desde que en 2014 casi 100.000 personas celebraron el orgullo en Estambul. Pero desde entonces, esta manifestación es restringida y perseguida por el mismo gobierno que presumía de estar convirtiendo a Turquía en un referente en las libertades dentro del mundo musulmán. El señor Erdogan dice defender la familia. Yo, la verdad es que creo que defender la familia es defender la libertad para que personas adultas funden hogares con quien quieran. Y señor comisario, yo creo que está bien introducir esto en el futuro informe de ampliación, pero tal vez no es suficiente.
Muchas gracias.
Thank you. Mrs. Schuring-Vlierman, you have the floor for one minute.
Joanna Scheuring-Wielgus
Pani przewodnicząca, panie komisarzu. Turcja od wielu lat chce wejść do rodziny europejskiej, ale niestety robi wszystko, aby w tej rodzinie europejskiej po prostu nie być. Według ostatniego badania Europejskiego Centrum Wolności Prasy i Mediów, Turcja odpowiada za 89% aresztowań i zatrzymań dziennikarzy w Europie. Oprócz tego mnóstwo polityków opozycyjnych, mnóstwo, setki nawet zamordowanych kobiet. To nie jest akces do tego, żeby wejść do Unii Europejskiej, w której liczy się wolność, demokracja, szacunek dla różnorodności.
To co się wczoraj wydarzyło w Turcji jest kolejnym niestety symptomem upadającej demokracji. Tureckie władze zachowują się nieodpowiedzialnie, strasznie i nie wedle tego, czym dla nas jest Unia Europejska.
Więc jeżeli władze tureckie chcą rzeczywiście wejść do Unii Europejskiej, to muszą się naprawdę zastanowić i zmienić tę ścieżkę wejścia do Unii Europejskiej, bo ta, którą dążą, niestety do Unii Europejskiej Turcji nie prowadzi.
Thank you, Mrs. Sering. You have a blue card, Mrs. Snow. All right, I will then call Mr. Zelimes.
Dainius Žalimas
Thank you. Dear colleagues, persecuting minorities does not protect families, it protects dictatorship. The detention of LGBTQ+ human rights defenders and raids on their homes and offices reminds us what we see in Russia, where the entire LGBTQ+ community is branded as extremist because it allegedly undermines so-called traditional family values. In a similar fashion, this Turkish operation was cynically named "My Family is Safe". But families are made safe by protection from violence, not by inciting it.
This is open state-led discrimination and the dismantling of civil society. The EU must act. These arrests must be raised directly in our political dialogue with Turkey. We should strengthen support for independent Turkish civil society and provide emergency assistance to human rights defenders at risk. Migration, trade, and security matter, but they cannot come at the expense of fundamental rights.
Thank you.
Rasmus Nordqvist
Thank you, Mr. Notviss.
We know far too well the playbook of autocrats when they attack the LGBTQI community. Unfortunately, Turkey is not the first place we see it.
By targeting the LGBTQI community, they attack democracy, they attack freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and fundamental rights. We see it over and over again. This weekend we saw horrible attacks on activists, on organizations, on businesses across Turkey. Individuals were arrested and charged, shutting down of websites and raids of queer bars and clubs. And this comes on top of years of banning of Istanbul Pride and attacks on any kind of initiative across Turkey.
What we should see now is a firm and clear political response from the Commission and from the Council. We should not accept any kind of attacks, whether it is in third countries, in candidate countries or within our own borders here in EU, because the attack on our community, unfortunately, we see them so many places. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Furari.
Presidente, quello che sta accadendo in Turchia non è un incidente isolato, è il risultato di una precisa deriva autoritaria del governo Erdogan. La comunità LGBTQ+ viene trasformata in un nemico interno per ragioni ideologiche, ma così facendo si alimenta solo odio e discriminazione.
Mario Furore
Oggi il Parlamento europeo deve avere il coraggio di reagire con forza. Non possiamo proclamare ogni giorno i nostri valori e poi dimenticarli solo quando entrano in gioco gli interessi economici, geopolitici o accordi sulla migrazione. Erdogan deve sapere che il rispetto dei diritti umani e degli obblighi internazionali non è facoltativo. E allora lo dico con forza. La Turchia oggi è un paese candidato ad entrare nell'Unione europea e grazie a questo status accede a fondi di preadesione che dovrebbero servire proprio a promuovere i diritti fondamentali.
Se questo è il modo con cui la Turchia gestisce i fondi, allora forse sarebbe il caso di rivedere lo status di paese candidato all'adesione e di dire con forza: "Bye-bye Erdogan". I diritti delle persone non sono merce di scambio e non lo devono essere mai.
Thank you. You have a blue card from Mr. Siper. Mr. Furori, you have a blue card from Mr. Siper. Do you wish to accept it? No, thank you.
Mr. Engel, you have the floor.
Marc Angel
Thank you, Chair. Dear all, what we are witnessing in Turkey is an unacceptable assault on fundamental freedoms.
When human rights defenders, LGBTQI+ and HIV activists are detained, offices and homes are raided, and peaceful voices are silenced, concern is not enough. Peaceful advocacy is not a crime. Identity is not a crime. And democracy needs strong civil society and community groups. So we call on the Turkish authorities to end the arbitrary targeting of activists and release anyone detained simply for exercising their fundamental rights.
And there is another reason to be worried as Europeans. The world and Europe has committed to end HIV/AIDS as a public health threat by 2030, SDG 3.3. HIV is not only a medical issue, it's a human rights issue. We cannot end HIV while those fighting stigma and discrimination and exclusion are themselves silenced or detained. We will never normalize repression, and our European Union cannot look away.
And those in Turkey defending the rights and health of marginalized communities must know they do not stand alone. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr. Engel. Mr. Engel, you have a blue card, I guess, Mr. Sieper.
Lukas Sieper
Herr Kollege, Sie haben ja die Werte und das System der Demokratie erwähnt, die in diesem Kontext relevant werden. Nun hat sich ja die Frau Kollegin Borstorf darüber gewundert, warum wir als Europäisches Parlament uns anmaßen, darüber zu urteilen, was die türkische Regierung dahingehend tut. Vielleicht könnten Sie der Frau Kollegin ja erklären, warum wir das tun und vielleicht in einfachem Deutsch. Danke schön.
Marc Angel
Also ich würde einfach ganz einfach erklären, dass das, was immer von dieser Seite verbreitet wird, dass es um eine Gender-Ideologie handelt, dass das Ideologie ist. Das gibt es nicht. Menschen, die für LGBTI-Rechte, für Frauenrechte kämpfen, für Rechte von behinderten Menschen, die wollen keine Diskriminierung. Es ist, es geht um Gleichheit und überhaupt nicht um Ideologie. Aber wie immer haben wir von der Seite wird alles reingebracht: Green Deal, Migration, LGBTI und so weiter.
Wir kennen das bei jedem Thema und das, das, das können wir hier nicht gelten lassen. Danke.
Thank you.
We will now go to the catch-the-eye procedure and I will give the floor to Mr. López Aguilar, 315.
Juan Fernando López Aguilar
Gracias, presidenta, comisario. Estamos de acuerdo en que una exigencia del examen de mérito individual para cada adhesión a la Unión Europea consiste exactamente en la adhesión a sus valores, sin restricciones, a la Carta de Derechos Fundamentales de la Unión Europea que prohíbe toda discriminación por razón de orientación sexual. En modo que, por chocante que pueda parecer a los ciudadanos que siguen este debate, Turquía nunca ha sido desclasificada como candidato a la adhesión. Es cierto que hace mucho tiempo que esa opción perdió toda credibilidad, pero sigue siendo intolerable que Turquía se aleje cada vez más en su represión a enteros colectivos, en particular al colectivo LGTBI por razón de su orientación sexual, de los estándares europeos. Y por tanto la Unión Europea, que tiene una relación estratégica con Turquía y múltiples elementos diplomáticos para ejercer su presión, tiene que emplearse a fondo para decir que esos comportamientos son inaceptables y para que la Unión Europea muestre protección efectiva a las personas que padecen esa discriminación, sea en Turquía o en cualquier otra parte del mundo.
Gracias, presidenta.
Tinkkinen
Thank you, Mr. Tinkkinen.
Dear Speaker, gay bars in Turkey have been raided. When Islam starts to be the inspiration for how a country is being led, this is what happens.
President Erdoğan, we, the gay people, are not the problem, you are. Try fixing your country instead of wasting time for your fixation. Your country has inflation of over 30%. Your country ranks 163rd in the World's Press Freedom Index. Your country suffers from severe corruption.
Political opponents are thrown into jail. Households are struggling to manage food and housing expenses. And after all this, you are trying to fix your country's problems by raiding gay bars. Mr. Erdoğan, your country doesn't have a bright future under your leadership. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Körner Moritz.
Frau Präsidentin, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen, wir sind uns ja heute in der Debatte eigentlich alle einig. Diese Angriffe auf die LGBT-Community in der Türkei sind entsetzlich und sie sind auch nicht mit EU-Werten vereinbar. Alle sind wir uns einig? Nein, eigentlich nur Frau Borchardt von der AfD.
Moritz Körner
Und da müssen wir uns schon, Sie müssen sich schon irgendwann entscheiden. Sind Sie der Meinung, dass Islamismus unsere freie Gesellschaft und Frei- und Bürgerrechte bekämpft und gefährdet? Oder stellen Sie sich an die Seite eines islamistischen Regimes, wenn diese Freiheiten und Bürgerrechte eingeschränkt werden? Da müssen Sie sich irgendwann entscheiden. Aber ich will auch zu den anderen Kollegen sagen.
Wenn wir uns da so einig sind, es reicht auch, Herr Kommissar, nicht nur ein sehr besorgtes Statement in Richtung Istanbul. Wir müssen es doch hier auch mal so klar ansprechen. Seit Jahren und Jahrzehnten laufen die Beitrittsverhandlungen mit der Türkei und spätestens jetzt, aber eigentlich schon viel länger, müssen diese beendet werden.
Thank you, Mr. Andriukaitis, 178.
Vytenis Povilas Andriukaitis
Dėkoju, gerbiama pirmininke, gerbiamas komisare Marošai, kolegos, visi mes iš esmės sakome tą patį, kad pagrindinės fundamentalios žmogaus teisės yra vienintelė sąlyga šaliai, kuri vadinasi šalimi nare kandidate.
Ir mes puikiai suprantame, kad dabar Komisijai ir Komisijos, kaip sakyti, pareigūnams yra didelė gera proga vėl dar ir dar kartą priminti Turkijos vyriausybei ir Turkijos parlamentui visiškai aiškias pozicijas, kad tai absoliučiai nepriimtina. Tai gali būti priimtina diktatūroms, bet ne šaliai, kuri nori būti kandidate į Europos Sąjungą. Bet problema yra ir kita. Mes turime atkreipti dėmesį, kad šalių narių tarpe taip pat nepaisoma fundamentalių teisių. Ir yra šalių narių, kuriose taip pat pažeidžiamos tos LGBTQ bendruomenės teisės, neratifikuojamos konvencijos, ir tai irgi yra mūsų silpnumo ženklas.
Mes turime atsisukti į save taip pat.
Thank you, Mr. Terheș. Please stick to your time.
Cristian Terheş
Thank you. Mr. Commissioner, I was expected to hear from you references to international law when you defend these people that were abused by the Erdoğan's regime. But the whole argument that we hear here is about LGBTQI+, I just want to make sure that I say all these acronyms. You see, so it's, I'll get to that.
If you really want to pressure the Turkish government, make reference to the international law. The problem there, if it's the way everybody's claiming, it's a matter of violation of fundamental rights, of rights to assembly, rights to freedom of expression. To the contrary, if the whole debate it's about LGBTQI+, we can't even agree on the whole acronym, you just give them more ammunition to persecute these people. Use the international law, not these acronyms that we invented in Europe to define realities that are undefendable and undefinable. Let me ask you something, if LGBT is clear what it stands for, what is T-Q-I-plus stands for?
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Mrs. Jovanovici, you have the floor for one minute.
Diana Iovanovici Şoşoacă
Mulțumesc. În primul rând, aș dori să știu de ce dumneavoastră nu luați atitudine, doamnă președinte, în condițiile în care o doamnă, o femeie a fost discriminată și jignită aici în plen de către trei domni. Mie mi se pare inacceptabil că într-o democrație nu avem dreptul la opinie și suntem efectiv călcați în picioare pentru că nu suntem de acord cu alții care de fapt au distrus Europa. Turcia este membră a Consiliului din 1950.
În Turcia există o religie, în Turcia există o moralitate, o moralitate pe care Europa a pierdut-o. Vorbeați de drepturile omului, în România s-au abolit demult, nu mai există, nu mai există nici constituție pentru că tot dumneavoastră de la Bruxelles ați anulat-o cu comenzile dumneavoastră politice. Vorbiți de LGBT, ce Dumnezeu o mai însemna și LGBT? De ce trebuie să afișați tot timpul sexul pe străzi? De ce trebuie să ne intereseze cum face fiecare sex și să-i exhibăm pe stradă?
Lucrul ăsta se ține în intimitate, în fiecare casa a lui, nu pe străzi. Încă mai există moralitate în lumea asta și m-aș fi așteptat să am o ședință cu cei din LGBT care au omorât copii și i-au violat.
Sophie Wilmès
Thank you very much, you have over your time. I am, please behave all in this room. Please, the debate is now closed. If you, I can assure you that the rules are respected by everyone. The next item on the agenda is one-minute speech rule 179.
I would like to inform you that for one-minute speeches you are invited to take the floor from your seat. I will therefore ask to take the floor Mr. Tsiódras Dimítrios, 743.
Dimitris Tsiodras
Ευχαριστώ πολύ. Η νέα κοινοβουλευτική περίοδος ξεκινάει με τη συζήτηση για την κατάσταση της Ένωσής μας. Τα μηνύματα που έρχονται από τους πολίτες είναι πολύ ηχηρά για να τα αγνοήσει κάποιος. Η ανασφάλεια γίνεται όλο και μεγαλύτερη. Οικονομική ανασφάλεια, κοινωνική ανασφάλεια, γεωπολιτική ανασφάλεια.
Και όσο εμείς δεν δίνουμε πειστικές απαντήσεις, ιδιαίτερα στις αγωνίες των πλέον ευάλωτων και της νέας γενιάς, τόσο θα βρίσκουν χώρο ακραίες φωνές. Μιλάμε για επιμέρους κοινές πολιτικές, όμως δεν μιλάμε για την πολιτική ενοποίηση της Ευρώπης. Για την Ευρώπη των 450 εκατομμυρίων που θα αντιμετωπίσει παγκόσμιες προκλήσεις, που θα προασπίσει τα σύνορά της που είναι τα σύνορα των κρατών μελών, που θα δημιουργήσει ευρωπαϊκό στρατό, που θα ενισχύσει το επίπεδο ζωής των πολιτών.
Όσο δεν μιλάμε για αυτά, τόσο θα ακούγονται πιο δυνατά φωνές και αντιλήψεις που θα ενισχύουν τον ανταγωνισμό μεταξύ των χωρών και θα οδηγούν σε ένα παρελθόν της ηπείρου μας που όλοι θέλουμε να ξεχάσουμε. Ευχαριστώ.
Thank you, Mrs. Repp. 636. 636.
Sabrina Repp
Ah, jetzt. Ja. Das Ergebnis in Sachsen-Anhalt muss uns aufrütteln. Und für mich ist klar: Die Antwort darf jetzt nicht sein, mit dem Finger auf Sachsen-Anhalt zu zeigen oder nur darüber zu reden, was schiefgelaufen ist. Gerade schauen in ganz Europa so viele Menschen wie noch nie nach Sachsen-Anhalt.
Und wir müssen dafür sorgen, dass den Menschen jetzt wirklich zugehört wird. Viele haben das Vertrauen in demokratische Politik verloren, daran, dass die Zukunft besser wird als die Gegenwart, daran, dass wir die Kräfte sein können, die diese Zukunft gestalten. Stattdessen wählte eine große Mehrheit eine rechtsextreme Partei. Das ist hart und wiegt schwer. Aber es darf uns nicht entmutigen, uns für die Menschen in Sachsen-Anhalt einzusetzen, dass wir vor Ort sind, dass wir zuhören und dass wir Politik mit Respekt im Alltag der Menschen dafür sorgen, dass es einen Unterschied macht bei guten Arbeitsplätzen, bei bezahlbarem Leben und bei der Zukunft der eigenen Kinder.
Ich kann versichern: Wir haben den Unmut gesehen und wahrgenommen.
Und wir sollten jetzt alle unseren Teil dazu beitragen, dass Sachsen-Anhalt weiter bunt, offen und vielfältig bleibt.
Sebastian Kruis
Gracias, presidente. Hace poco estuve en Bolivia y prometí al pueblo de Uyuni un nuevo amigo en el Parlamento Europeo. La relación de Europa con Bolivia se centra casi solo en una cuestión: el litio. Pero una relación seria no puede basarse solo en materias primas. Uyuni es también el destino turístico más conocido de Bolivia.
El gobierno prepara un plan de turismo sostenible para los próximos diez años. Solo pido que estudiase si un pequeño proyecto piloto de turismo sostenible en Uyuni puede entrar dentro de los programas que ya existen. Esto ayudaría a proteger un ecosistema frágil, daría ingresos a las comunidades locales y reforzaría la posición de Europa en un país donde otras potencias avanzan más rápido que nosotras. Muchas gracias a ustedes y saludos al pueblo de Uyuni. Gracias.
Tinkkinen
Thank you, President. Antisemitism is not just a part of Europe's dark history, it is a part of today's Europe. In Germany, in 2022, there were 2,641 antisemitic crimes. Two years later, that number had exploded to 6,236. In today's Europe, Jews still have to fear for their lives.
Now in Germany, seven men were charged over plans to carry out an attack on the anniversary of the Hamas attack on October 7th. Suspects: members of Hamas or people with links to Hamas. Targets would have been Israeli representatives, supporters of Israel, or Jews. Europe has already failed once in this. We must not fail again.
Close our borders to antisemitism. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Mulolli. Mulloli, Mr. Mulloli.
Ciaran Mullooly
Thank you, Chair.
The scourge of TB is having not just an economic effect on farmers, it's having a devastating psychological one. Niamh from County Roscommon wrote to me in a state of desperation about the fate of the remaining 27 cows on their farm, now destined for slaughter because of this disease. But she begs me to tell you that their removal cannot be the whole answer when infection continues to return, because she says repeatedly testing cattle, removing reactors, compensating and waiting for another breakdown does not feel like eradication from where she's standing. It looks like managing their losses. Anthony from Galway called me to tell me TB was taking 68 of their 103 cows.
And even the compensation system is unfair, a valuation forced upon the herd that is sometimes nowhere near the real value. Niamh says the testing may stop, but life doesn't stop, her children still need her, dinner still has to be made, it's having a serious psychological effect on their family.
We need to step up and look after families and come forward with meaningful solutions, including a proper examination of where this disease is coming from. Thank you.
Ana Miranda Paz
Obrigada, Presidenta. No meu país, a Galiza, nas rías galegas, há um problema no setor da apanha de marisco, no marisqueio, que leva acumulando problemas estruturais desde há anos. Reuni-me com o grupo de Mulleres Salgadas, mulheres que trasladaram as dificuldades que afrontam cada dia centenas delas que têm nesta atividade o seu sustento. Perderam neste último ano o 18% das licenças para fainar. Há bancos marisqueiros fechados, as ajudas tardam em chegar.
Está a abandonar-se o setor pelo governo do Partido Popular. Muitas destas mulheres não obtêm nenhum benefício da sua atividade e só continuam por terem segurança social, direito ao desemprego e pensão, não porque o marisqueio, tal como está organizado e concebido, dê benefícios. A UE enche-se-lhe a boca com a segurança alimentar, com os benefícios do consumo do peixe, com a remuda geracional e, por isso, é importante apoiar o setor, que cheguem as ajudas rápido e ajudar a gente nova a se incorporarem para que possam viver do marisqueio. Obrigada.
Thank you, Chair. Ilegalni promet opasnim otpadom ozbiljan je oblik prekograničnog okolišnog kriminala.
Nikolina Brnjac
Na inicijativu EPP-a još u prošloj godini u svibnju u LIBE odboru zajedno smo odradili sastanak sa Europolom i Eurojustom i upravo smo o toj temi razgovarali. Zaključak je bio jasan: da kriminalne mreže koriste razlike između država članica. Oni koriste malu i nedostatnu koordinaciju između država članica i nedostatnu razmjenu podataka između država članica. Danas vidimo svi koliko su ozbiljne mogu biti ove posljedice, a to pokazuje upravo slučaj ilegalnog otpada u Gospiću. Znamo da smo imali slučajeve u Italiji, u Francuskoj, u Španjolskoj i Poljskoj.
Danas u Hrvatskoj, sutra u nekoj drugoj državi članici. Stoga moramo pod hitno pojačati prekogranični nadzor, ubrzati razmjenu podataka, zajedničke istrage te osigurati kazne da više nikome ovako nešto ne bi palo na pamet. Nije moguće da otpad prolazi kroz nekoliko država članica i da ga sustav ne zaustavi niti registrira i zato kažemo da imamo europski problem koji zahtijeva europski odgovor. Hvala.
Thank you, Mr. Ressler. 720.
Marko Vešligaj
Thank you. Kako nepovratno izgubiti povjerenje u institucije? Hrvatski primjer u dva slučaja.
I Hrvatsku su pogodile prirodne nepogode kao i cijelu Europu ove godine. Diljem dalmatinske obale harali su požari, posebno je tragično bilo u Omišu gdje su troje ljudi izgubili svoje živote, oštećena je imovina i hvala hrabrim vatrogascima i pilotima kanadera koji su spriječili još veću katastrofu. Jer sustav za upozoravanje plaćen 8 milijuna eura iz europskih fondova nije se oglasio. Drugi slučaj imamo osim prirodnih i ljudski izazvane katastrofe. U Gospiću prljavim dogovorima dovozio se štetan otpad iz drugih europskih zemalja, zatrovano je tlo, zatrovana je voda.
Država je sve znala. Dvije godine nije ništa poduzimala sve dok deseci tisuća ljudi nisu došli u Zagreb i rekli dosta. Dosta nam je toga da država čak niti ne štiti naše zdravlje. Ovo nije samo pitanje Gospića i Omiša. Ovo je europski skandal, ovo je gubitak povjerenja u institucije pa i u samu Europsku uniju.
Hvala.
Petra Steger
Das, was wir in Ceuta erlebt haben, ist nichts anderes als ein vollkommenes Versagen der Europäischen Union. Die EU hat mal wieder bewiesen, dass sie noch immer nicht in der Lage ist, endlich ihre eigenen Bürger zu schützen.
Mehr als 80.000 Migranten in nur ein bis zwei Tagen. Das ist das Resultat einer katastrophalen EU-Migrations- und Sicherheitspolitik, die wir seit 2015 erleben und das Resultat einer sozialistischen Regierung in Spanien, die diese Migration in Wahrheit auch noch möchte. Wir haben davor gewarnt, dass Spanien Millionen neue Pullfaktoren schafft, wenn man auf einen Schlag Millionen Illegale legalisiert. Doch jede Warnung wurde von der EU ignoriert. Es gab nichts, keine Sanktionen, keine Kritik, gar nichts.
Die Bürger leben bis heute in Angst und Schrecken und werden dort im Stich gelassen. Übergriffe, Vergewaltigungen und zahlreiche Dschihadisten und Terroristen, die ins Land geströmt sind. Doch anstatt endlich zu handeln lobt auch noch Kommissar Brunner Marokko und Spanien und will jetzt Lehren ziehen. 11 Jahre nach wir schaffen das und er hat offenbar noch immer keine Lösungen. Es muss endlich Schluss sein mit dieser Massenmigration und mit unsinnigen Deals mit irgendwelchen Drittstaaten, wo wir uns abhängig und erpressbar machen.
Die EU muss endlich seine Grenzen schützen mit Zäunen, Mauern und vor allem Pushbacks.
Produce immagini e video falsi, imita le voci, controlla infrastrutture strategiche, gestisce i dati degli ospedali, controlla sistemi di difesa e lancia missili. Questo fa l'intelligenza artificiale. Vogliamo quindi davvero correre il rischio di perdere il controllo su ciò che, come ha sostenuto il ricercatore appena dimessosi da Anthropic, potrebbe uccidere tutti noi entro un decennio?
Paolo Inselvini
E se a dirci che dobbiamo mettere più limiti sono coloro che conoscono meglio l'IA, allora dobbiamo ascoltarli. L'innovazione va bene, sì, ma solo se abbiamo ben chiara la lezione di Icaro. Sono in gioco infatti la nostra libertà, il nostro lavoro, la nostra vita, il nostro futuro. La politica perciò tutta, in Europa come in tutto il mondo, deve essere responsabile e lungimirante. Tuteliamo l'uomo nella sua interezza, nel bene e nel male, anche con i nostri difetti.
Arginia mo e allora vedremo anche nell'IA i frutti più alti della nostra intelligenza. Sciogliamo le redini e allora vedremo le conseguenze più nefaste e la luce del sole invece che illuminare ci brucerà.
Thank you, Mr. Andrews. 188.
Barry Andrews
Thank you, Madam President. Donald Trump has decided to get involved in the debate on the United Ireland. What could possibly go wrong? As Claire Hanna memorably said, he's not perhaps as orange as he looks. However, people who think seriously about Ireland's future don't take seriously Trump's comments.
Maybe it was a way of getting back on Andy Burnham, who bizarrely announced that a provision of the Belfast Good Friday Agreement, a future border poll, was, quote, off the table.
The provision of that agreement says that there will be a referendum if the British government think it would succeed at a referendum. And it's not an exaggeration to say that the British government's judgment on what might or might not pass in a referendum is, to say the least, patchy. But the British government has, if it has learned anything from the Brexit debacle, it must be that the planning for the day after a border poll should start a long time before the planning for a border poll. It is a lesson that is equally important on both sides of the Irish Sea. Thank you.
Lynn Boylan
Thank you, President. The trial of the Ulm 5 in Germany is an attack on civil liberties and the rule of law in Europe. Daniel Tatlow-Devally, Crow Tricks, Zo Hailo, Leandro Rollo, and Vi Coverbashic have now been imprisoned for over a year without a verdict. And not content with their complicity in Israel's genocide in Gaza, the German government are repressing European citizens who refuse to stand by as Germany arms Israel. None of the five caused any harm to a person, nor do they have any criminal record.
Yet they have been refused bail and they are now charged with the notorious Section 129 of the German Penal Code. They are being held in isolation, their visits are restricted and they are subject to inhumane and degrading treatment and they are not even permitted to sit with their lawyers during their trial. This is clearly a fundamental breach of their rights under Title 6 of the Charter of the Fundamental Rights and the Commission cannot turn a blind eye to this assault on civil liberties and due process within its own borders.
Thank you, Mrs. Borsdorf. 443.
Irmhild Boßdorf
Is it working? Ah. Warum wählt der Osten blau? Fast jeder zweite in Sachsen-Anhalt hat der AfD seine Stimme gegeben. Die Erklärung ist ganz einfach: Die Menschen dort haben jede Art der Bevormundung satt.
Sie können sich noch allzu gut daran erinnern, wie sie in der Diktatur der DDR zum Schweigen gebracht wurden, wie es sich anfühlte, seine Meinung niemals frei äußern zu dürfen, wie grausam die Schergen der Stasi mit all jenen umsprangen, die sich nicht unterwarfen. Doch was erleben wir jetzt? Genau diese Bevormundung greift wieder um sich.
Denn kaum wählen die Menschen in Sachsen-Anhalt die Alternative, der sie zutrauen, die Probleme des Landes zu lösen, melden sich Vertreter der Grünen. Sie sind gemeinsam mit allen anderen Parteien zur Blockpartei des Ostens verkommen und wollen Sachsen-Anhalt nun dringend benötigte Finanzmittel streichen. Das Ergebnis kann ich Ihnen prophezeien: Bei den Wahlen in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern und Berlin wird die AfD stark wie nie, denn die Deutschen haben jede Art der linken Bevormundung satt. Vielen Dank.
Thank you, Mr. Fest. 327.
Georgios Aftias
Κύριε Πρόεδρε, πριν από λίγες ημέρες ως κεραυνός έπεσε η πληροφορία ότι έξι χώρες ζητούν περικοπές 400 δισεκατομμυρίων ευρώ από τον ευρωπαϊκό προϋπολογισμό. Αντιλαμβάνεστε ότι αν συμβεί αυτό, θα είναι το πιο τραγικό γεγονός. Γιατί; Γιατί ενιαία αγορά δεν έχουμε. Οι χώρες ζητούν στήριξη σε στέγαση, σε γεωργία, σε ενέργεια.
Οι περιφέρειες θέλουν χρήματα.
Χρειάζονται τα νοικοκυριά στήριξη και οι επιχειρήσεις. Εάν συμβεί αυτό, τότε θα οδηγηθεί η Ευρώπη σε οικονομικό κατακερματισμό. Αυτό δεν το θέλουμε, κυρία Πρόεδρε. Εμείς θέλουμε μια Ευρώπη που να στηρίζει νοικοκυριά, επιχειρήσεις και κατοίκους των χωρών της. Ποτέ να μη συμβεί αυτό, γιατί θα είναι και το τέλος της Ευρώπης.
Σας ευχαριστώ θερμά.
Victor Negrescu
Thank you, Mr. Negrescu.
Stimați colegi, Europa tocmai a primit nota de plată pentru faptul că educația a fost tratată prea mult timp ca o cheltuială, nu ca o investiție. Noile rezultate PISA sunt dramatice pentru multe state membre. Mai mult de jumătate dintre elevii români de 15 ani nu ating nivelul minim la matematică, aproape jumătate nu îl ating la lectură. Și ce a făcut guvernul? A tăiat burse, a comasat școli, a crescut numărul de elevi în clase, a tăiat tocmai de la școală, zeci de proiecte finanțate din fonduri europene au fost blocate.
Aceasta nu este reformă. Este abandonarea unei generații, iar Europa poate și trebuie să acționeze. Am convins statele membre să aloce cel puțin 10% pentru educație din planurile de redresare.
Educația trebuie să fie o prioritate și a viitorului buget european, de aceea fac apel la Consiliu să susțină propunerea mea de a aduce 28 de miliarde de euro în educație prin taxarea platformelor online de jocuri de noroc. Mulțumesc.
Thank you, Mr. Todeșci.
Rody Tolassy
Merci, Madame la Présidente. Pour la première fois de son histoire, la Commission entend enfin ajuster la législation de l'Union à nos particularités en outre-mer. L'Omnibus RUP, qui accompagne la nouvelle stratégie pour ces territoires, est une avancée majeure qui a été obtenue par nos coups de boutoir et l'insistance des députés du Rassemblement National. Victoire majeure, car elle reconnaît enfin que Bruxelles ne peut pas imposer des règles déconnectées de nos réalités, mais ces avancées ne sont pas une fin en soi car elles sont incomplètes. L'adaptation des réglementations doit devenir un réflexe sur l'ensemble des directives européennes passées et futures.
En parallèle, la stratégie pour les RUP ne peut pas se contenter de demi-mesures, mais doit répondre aux problèmes structurels de nos territoires comme l'eau, les sargasses, le transport ou l'autonomie alimentaire. Et comme nos coups de boutoir pour l'obtention de ce texte, nous en donnerons autant pour obtenir un vrai texte qui répond aux attentes de nos populations et non de demi-mesures. Je vous remercie.
Thank you, Mrs. Garberry.
Nina Carberry
Thank you, Madam President, Commissioner.
This September we mark Alzheimer's Awareness Month. Today more than 9 million people live with dementia in the EU. But by 2050, that figure will increase to 60% by 60%. That's why I recently hosted Alzheimer Europe and the FTB Brothers in the European Parliament. And their message to President Metsola and EU Commissioners was simple: the time for action is now.
Lots is happening at an EU level across research, health, data sharing, prevention and care. But what we are missing is a clear strategy, tying the threads together. That is why we need an EU-wide brain health action plan with the dedicated health and research funding to follow it up. The cost of dementia is already enormous, but the cost of inaction from this point forward will be far greater. Thank you.
Costas Mavrides
Thank you, Mr. Mavrides.
Το Διεθνές Ποινικό Δικαστήριο αφορά εγκλήματα πολέμου και εγκλήματα κατά της ανθρωπότητας. Δύο εγκλήματα τα οποία συμβαίνουν εδώ και χρόνια σε έδαφος της Ευρωπαϊκής Ένωσης είναι ο παράνομος εποικισμός με μεταφορά πληθυσμού από την Τουρκία και ο οργανωμένος σφετερισμός ελληνοκυπριακών περιουσιών στο κατεχόμενο έδαφος της Κυπριακής Δημοκρατίας. Η δικαιοδοσία του δικαστηρίου αποτελεί κορυφαία υποχρέωση στην Ευρωπαϊκή Ένωση και γι' αυτό υπέβαλα στο δικαστήριο πολυσέλιδο έγγραφο για να προσαφθεί κατηγορητήριο στους υπεύθυνους εγκληματίες. Για τα δύο εγκλήματα υπάρχουν αυταπόδεικτα στοιχεία. Ο πληθυσμός στο κατεχόμενο έδαφος της Κύπρου και η οργανωμένη, ο οργανωμένος σφετερισμός καταδεικνύουν το έγκλημα.
Ευχαριστώ, κυρία Πρόεδρε.
Όμως, από το 2014 το Διεθνές Ποινικό Δικαστήριο δεν έχει προχωρήσει. Και γι' αυτό θεωρώ ότι εάν για ένα τέτοιο ξεκάθαρο έγκλημα δεν προχωρά το δικαστήριο, τότε η αμεροληψία του τίθεται υπό αμφισβήτηση.
Thank you, Mr. Stefanuta.
Madam President, I really want to use 10 seconds to say to all my colleagues that Romanians are not hateful people. What you heard from Mrs. Iovanovici-Șoșoacă is unacceptable.
Nicolae Ștefănuță
That the LGBT community harms kids, kills kids? No, this is shameful and unacceptable and on behalf of the Romanian people I just want to say that we are not like that, we are loving people. I came here to speak about the Albanian people who are leading a revolution for more than 100 days. They are on the streets every single day and now they start to be taken away by the police. The journalists are being locked.
The online accounts of people are being taken away by algorithms. And let me just tell you something. We see you here. We see what's happening in Albania. I've been there.
I've been in Tirana. I demonstrated with these people. I hugged them. I spoke to them and they write me every single day. You are not forgotten Albanian people.
You are not forgotten in your demands for transparency, against corruption, for nature and for fair rights. Albania, if you want to be in Europe, you need to respect the rules. The Albanian people respect them and we are with them. Thank you.
Thank you Mr. Moreira da Silva.
Tiago Moreira de Sá
Obrigado senhora presidente. Há hoje na antiga Pérsia uma árvore especial, o cipreste.
Chamaram-lhe o cipreste livre, símbolo de verticalidade e de beleza, de perenidade e liberdade. Continua verde quando chega o inverno, continua de pé quando chega o vento, continua a crescer quando chega a noite. A tirania acredita sempre que a noite lhe pertence. Fecha portas, apaga luzes, enche cárceres. Por algum tempo confunde a escuridão com a eternidade.
No entanto, a escuridão que impõe é a mesma que a impede de ver que o cipreste continua verde, de pé e a crescer. Hoje esse cipreste livre é o povo iraniano, que proponho para o Prémio Sakharov. A sua resistência em plena escuridão lembra-nos que a noite pode ser longa e densa, mas não pode impedir a chegada da manhã. Porque nenhuma noite é perene, perene é o cipreste. Já estava de pé quando a noite caiu sobre o Irão e estará de pé quando finalmente voltar a amanhecer na Pérsia.
Muito obrigado.
Thank you. Domnule comisar, în contextul blocării strâmtorilor Hormuz și Bab-el-Mandeb, Marea Neagră devine cel mai important punct de conectare al Uniunii Europene cu Orientul Mijlociu și cu Asia. Constanța, cel mai mare port la Marea Neagră, este intrarea și ieșirea naturală a Europei la și de la Marea Neagră.
Cristian Terheş
Constanța însă trebuie conectată cu restul Europei. În ultimii trei ani, patru ani, din păcate, după invadarea Ucrainei de către Rusia, se fac eforturi asidue pentru a finaliza autostrăzile. Din păcate s-au pierdut decenii pentru că proiecte importante de infrastructură din România au fost blocate exact de această agendă verde pe care o promovați de la Bruxelles. Autostrăzi au fost blocate în România pentru că afectau chipurile habitatul gândacului croitor. Pod important care ar fi legat România și Moldova deja nu s-a putut construi pentru că piciorul podului afecta peștii dintr-un râu.
E absurd. Eliminați aceste aberații și lăsați construcțiile să fie finalizate. Mulțumesc.
Michael McNamara
Thank you, Mr. McNamara. 649.
Thank you very much, Madam Vice-President. I suppose if the last couple of years have taught us anything, it's the necessity to plan for energy shocks.
Ireland is one of the few countries in Europe that currently doesn't have emergency gas storage, although the government is to be commended on moving in the right direction. A new floating gas terminal is to be commissioned in the Shannon Estuary. However, it will only have enough gas to take in enough gas to meet Ireland's needs for seven days. As we know, seven days is not a very long period of time and seems entirely unrealistic in terms of what is possible, at least. So I think we do need to look at the Ballycotton project, where a depleted gas field off the south of Ireland offers the possibility of pumping natural gas, not fracked gas, but natural gas, in which can be used when necessary.
And we also need, I think, to revisit the decision of an exploration ban on Ireland's own natural gas resources, which doesn't mean that we abandon the idea of a transition, but we acknowledge that it's going to take time. Thank you.
Κύριε Πρόεδρε, αγαπητοί συνάδελφοι, η Ελλάδα αλλάζει τον ενεργειακό και γεωπολιτικό χάρτη της Ανατολικής Μεσογείου.
Fredis Beleris
Μέσα στους επόμενους μήνες επανακινούν οι εργασίες για τη μεγάλη ηλεκτρική διασύνδεση Ελλάδα-Κύπρου-Ισραήλ σε στενή συνεννόηση με τη Γαλλία. Παράλληλα, τον Φεβρουάριο του 2027 ξεκινά στο βορειοδυτικό Ιόνιο η πρώτη ερευνητική γεώτρηση στην Ελλάδα μετά από σχεδόν μισό αιώνα. Αυτά είναι έργα που ενισχύουν την ενεργειακή αυτονομία και αναβαθμίζουν στρατηγικά όχι μόνο την Ελλάδα, αλλά και την Ευρώπη. Η χώρα μας δεν πρόκειται να δεχθεί υποδείξεις από κανέναν το πώς θα εξοπλίζεται και το πώς θα υπερασπίζεται στην πράξη τα κυριαρχικά της δικαιώματα. Τα επιτυγχάνει με διεθνείς συμμαχίες, επενδύσεις αξιοποιώντας τις νέες τεχνολογίες και ισχυρή αποτρεπτική δύναμη, γιατί η ασφάλεια του Ελληνισμού και της Ευρώπης δεν είναι διαπραγματεύσιμη.
Ευχαριστώ.
Thank you so much. For years, we in this House have said that access to medicines is not a luxury, it is a right. Across our Union, patients still face delays, inequality, and high prices of medicines. But we are also now under external pressure.
Vytenis Povilas Andriukaitis
Trump's most favored nation policy seeks to close the transatlantic gap in pharmaceuticals by demanding Europe pay more and threatening our budgets that keep our public health system sustainable. This June, the United States opened an investigation into Germany, accusing Berlin of persistent underpayment for innovative medicines and threatening tariffs. It is Germany today, and any one of our Member States tomorrow. That is precisely why we cannot afford to negotiate alone. A trade threat against one Member State is a threat against the internal market we all share.
Divided, we will be priced out one by one. This is not a technical trade dispute. It is a direct test of whether Europe negotiates as one Union or 27 fragmented markets. Our response must be united. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Ecke. 463.
Matthias Ecke
Zehn Prozent Wahrscheinlichkeit, alle Menschen zu töten. Das ist die Voraussage eines führenden Mitarbeiter des KI-Unternehmen Anthropic. Ich sage mal so, wenn Sie eine Technologie entwickeln, die auch nur zehn Prozent Wahrscheinlichkeit hat, einen Menschen zu töten, stop it, hören Sie auf damit. Was verbirgt sich dahinter?
Wir sehen, dass es immer mehr Geschichten gibt über Cyberangriffe, über autonome Agenten, die sich ihren Entwicklern entziehen, über sich selbst verbessernde Modelle im KI-Bereich, die mittlerweile auch den großen KI-Unternehmen nicht mehr geheuer sind. Deswegen hat Anthropic-Chef Amodei jetzt gefordert, dass man das Tempo der das Tempo des Ausbaus drosseln sollte, bis man eigentlich Herr wird des Ganzen. Und die anderen großen Unternehmen OpenAI, XAI und DeepMind haben sich sofort angeschlossen. Sollte man da nicht ein bisschen misstrauisch sein, wenn die sich alle sofort einigen? Ja, das sollte man.
Die haben ganz viele Investitionen, die wollen an die Börse gehen, die haben Angst vor schlechten Nachrichten. Aber die EU sollte diese Debatte auch nutzen. Wir haben mit dem AI Act eines der wichtigsten Regulierungsinstrumente an der Hand. Wir müssen international Kooperation eingehen, 0 % statt 10 %.
Marie Dauchy
Je vous alerte sur la situation dramatique de Ferroglobe. Depuis des mois je vous demande d'agir mais vous n'avez rien fait. L'année dernière déjà, lorsque vous prépariez vos mesures de sauvegarde, nous vous demandions de ne pas abandonner le silicium métal. Mais vous l'avez pourtant exclu. En Savoie l'usine de Montricher est à l'arrêt et ce sont désormais 450 emplois qui sont menacés en France, 450 emplois et 450 familles.
Pendant que la Chine et désormais l'Angola inondent notre marché de silicium à bas prix, vous, vous enquêtez, vous consultez, vous attendez. Mais nous n'avons plus le temps. Votre nouvelle enquête peut durer 12 voire 15 mois.
Mais dans 15 mois, il n'y aura peut-être tout simplement plus d'usine à sauver. Alors enregistrez immédiatement les importations et prenez des mesures provisoires. Vous en avez le pouvoir, utilisez-le. Et regardez ces salariés dans les yeux. Que leur direz-vous lorsqu'ils auront perdu leur emploi ?
Que Bruxelles avait besoin de quelques mois supplémentaires ? Ces gens veulent simplement vivre de leur travail, alors faites le vôtre. Nous vous avions prévenus, maintenant agissez.
Anthony Smith
L'Europe occidentale vient de connaître son été le plus chaud jamais enregistré, avec pour conséquence 25 000 décès supplémentaires. Mais ce qui tue, c'est l'abandon par l'Union européenne de toute politique de lutte contre le réchauffement climatique et de toute protection des travailleuses et travailleurs qui y sont exposés. Depuis 2000, l'Union a enregistré une augmentation de 42 % du nombre des décès liés à la chaleur sur le lieu de travail. Au-dessus de 30 degrés, le risque d'accident augmente de 5 à 7 %.
Au-dessus de 38 degrés, de 10 à 15 %. Pourtant, pendant des semaines, sur les chantiers, dans les champs, dans les cuisines ou les hôpitaux, le travail a continué sans véritables mesures protectrices, ni moyens de contrôle pour les syndicats et les inspections du travail, livrant ainsi la vie des travailleurs au bon vouloir des patrons dont une partie n'a que faire de la santé au travail. Plusieurs de ces travailleurs sont morts. Il est urgent que la Commission et les États membres agissent pour enfin fixer des seuils contraignants de température permettant de cesser le travail sans perte de salaire lorsque la chaleur devient dangereuse. Merci.
Mr. Geisel, 771.
Thomas Geisel
Frau Präsidentin, liebe Kolleginnen und Kollegen, kennen Sie die Geschichte von Goethes Zauberlehrling? Da heißt es: Die ich rief, die Geister, werd' ich nun nicht los. Daran erinnert der Hilferuf, den führende Entwickler von künstlicher Intelligenz gestern abgesetzt haben. Anthropic-CEO Amodei warnte vor der Entwicklung von Systemen, die wir nicht mehr kontrollieren können, und ein Manager seines Unternehmens möchte sogar nicht ausschließen, dass KI uns bis zum Ende dieses Jahrzehnts auslöschen könnte. Zugegeben, auch menschliche Intelligenz kann ins Verderben führen, etwa wenn man sich die Kriegsrhetorik in diesem Haus vor Augen führt, die sehr schnell zur self-fulfilling prophecy werden könnte.
Aber solange Menschen am Werk sind, besteht zumindest die Hoffnung, dass das Denken die Richtung ändern kann. Und deshalb sollten wir bei der künstlichen Intelligenz der Empfehlung des Heiligen Vaters folgen, der in seiner Enzyklika Magnifica Humanitas unmissverständlich klargemacht, dass Entscheidungen über Leben und Tod niemals an Maschinen und Algorithmen übertragen werden dürfen. Vielen Dank.
Thank you, so that would close our one-minute speeches moment. Thank you, Commissioner Šefčovič, for your presence during the whole time. The next sitting is tomorrow, Tuesday, 15 September 26, at 9:00. The agenda has been published and is available on the European Parliament website. The minute of this meeting will be submitted to Parliament for its approval tomorrow at the beginning of the afternoon.
The sitting is therefore closed. Thank you.