Lords Grand Committee — sitting of 26 October 2026: transcript & video · Polyfact

Create my account Learn more

United Kingdom

Videos

United Kingdom

Learn more Log in Create my account

Lords Grand Committee

26 October 2026

Speaker dots

Speakers in the chapter
Colour: political group
Grey: no group

Tap or click a chapter's dots to see names and groups.

Contents updated on 26 Oct 2026

Grand Committee consideration of the Railways Bill, continuing the detailed line‑by‑line examination and debate on amendments.

Layout

Layout Balanced Video, transcript and chat in equal parts Video Larger player Reading Wider transcript

Legend

Transcript markers

text Sentence being played
text Search result
text Intervention cited by the link you opened

Click a sentence to play the video from that moment. Select text to quote it with the speaker, timestamp and link.

More options

Official source

Offset

Transcript offset

0s

Text size

Export

Select segments to export (Word)

0 segments selected

Railways Bill — committee stage (day 7)

15:23

Clause 71 — Access and capacity regime

15:23

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — summary of earlier debate and case against clause 71

15:23

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill (Labour, Minister) — defence of clause 71 powers and response to amendments 266 and 267–271, 270 and 340

20:39

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — question on use of clause 71 only by agreement

29:46

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill (Labour, Minister) — reply on retaining coercive power under clause 71

30:19

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — question on financial compensation for imposed changes

30:55

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill (Labour, Minister) — indication that Bill allows for compensation

31:36

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — request for clause reference on compensation

31:56

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill (Labour, Minister) — citation of clause 71(2)(d)

32:07

The Lord Lansley (Conservative) — thanks, withdrawal of amendment 266 and query on GBR access to HS1

32:15

Chair — withdrawal of amendment 266, disposal of amendments 267–271 and agreement that clause 71 stand part

33:42

Clauses 72 and 73 — Debate on amendments 272 to 285

34:33

Amendments 272, 273, 274, 276 and 279 of The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper — limits on clause 72 regulation‑making powers and protections for private investors

34:33

The Rt Hon. the Lord Grayling (Conservative) — protection of private investments and limits on criminal sanctions under clause 72

48:07

The Baroness Finlay of Llandaff (Crossbench) — concerns about Henry VIII powers in clauses 72 and 73 (Amendment 284)

53:01

The Lord Berkeley OBE (Labour) — Amendment 280A and GBR ownership of freight companies or terminals

56:40

The Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative) — reassurance on heritage and preserved railways (Amendment 282)

01:00:42

The Viscount Stansgate (Labour) — support for heritage railway amendment and concern about clause 72(4)

01:01:16

The Baroness Pidgeon MBE (Liberal Democrat) — Amendments 283 and 285 on safeguards for non‑GBR infrastructure and international services

01:01:53

The Baroness Pidgeon MBE (Liberal Democrat) — request for reassurance for non-GBR organisations

01:06:29

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — criticism of Henry VIII powers and support for amendments 277, 278, 280 and 284

01:06:48

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour), Minister — justification of clause 72 powers and examples

01:12:49

The Rt Hon. the Lord Grayling (Conservative) — challenge on limits of clause 72

01:15:37

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour), Minister — reassurances on nationalisation fears and response to amendments

01:15:52

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour), Minister — response to amendments 274 to 277, 284 and 285

01:21:13

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — challenge on using delegated power instead of primary legislation

01:29:19

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour), Minister — reply to Lord Moylan on future infrastructure

01:31:03

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — concerns on Henry VIII powers and investor confidence

01:32:10

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — enduring definitions and case for primary legislation

01:36:41

Clause 72 stand part of the bill — agreed

01:41:06

Clause 73 stand part of the bill — agreed

01:42:08

Clause 74 — Retail code, ticketing data and subsidy transparency

01:42:26

Amendments 291A, 291B, 330JB, 330JC and 330JD — Lord Dixon of Jericho — rail retail data, APIs and subsidy transparency

01:42:26

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — support for amendments on level playing field for retailing

01:50:11

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — further support for retail and data transparency amendments

01:53:12

Intervenant 26 — brief response indicating willingness to engage

01:57:04

The Baroness Pidgeon MBE (Liberal Democrat) — independent retailers, data usability and subsidy transparency

01:57:07

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — support for open data, subsidy control concerns and equal access for retailers

02:00:11

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour) — government response on funding regime and transparency

02:10:14

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — challenge on cost coverage and competitive advantage

02:11:41

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour) — defence of transparency and competition safeguards

02:12:22

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — concern about charging for data and level playing field

02:19:26

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour) — initial reply on internal costing of data

02:20:28

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — challenge on marginal internal costs and TfL precedent

02:20:50

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour) — reflection on charging principles for data

02:21:32

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — rejection of accounting‑only solution

02:22:26

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour) — closing defence and commitment to reflect

02:22:57

Intervenant 25 — closing remarks on data usability and non‑discriminatory design; withdrawal of amendment 291A

02:23:48

Clauses 74 to 87 — Formal stand‑part decisions and technical amendments

02:25:39

Withdrawal of amendment 291A; formal decisions on clause 74 and clauses 75 to 77; agreement of amendment 293 after clause 77

02:25:39

Formal stand‑part decisions on clauses 78 to 87 and disposal of related amendments

02:26:43

Clauses 88 and 95 — Historical railways estate, rolling stock and Luxembourg Rail Protocol

02:28:56

The Rt Hon. the Lord Young of Cookham CH (Conservative) — transfer of the historical railways estate to GBR and comments on ROSCO ownership

02:28:56

The Viscount Stansgate (Labour) — brief support for transfer of the historical railways estate

02:35:22

Intervenant 33 — case for public ownership of rolling stock and opposition to the Luxembourg Rail Protocol

02:36:20

The Lord Berkeley OBE (Labour) — support for clause 95 and the Luxembourg Rail Protocol

02:47:55

Intervenant 37 — amendment 312 on a rails‑to‑trails programme for disused lines

02:51:51

The Lord Davies of Brixton (Labour) — support for amendment 312 and presumption of rail reinstatement

02:54:37

Amendments 330A and 330B of Lord Hampton — GBR as freeholder of railway arches and Hampton Court station redevelopment

02:57:01

The Lord Faulkner of Worcester (Labour) — brief remark on Lord Hampton's contribution

03:12:01

Intervenant 41 — Hampton Court station redevelopment and GBR's inherited projects

03:12:05

The Rt Hon. the Lord Grayling (Conservative) — support for Lord Young on the historic railways estate

03:14:21

The Rt Hon. the Lord Harper (Conservative) — support for rolling stock planning and defence of private investment model

03:18:08

The Baroness Pidgeon MBE (Liberal Democrat) — local rail funding, Restoring Your Railway review and rolling stock finance

03:28:21

The Lord Moylan (Conservative) — long‑term rolling stock framework and criticism of ad hoc policy signals

03:32:57

The Lord Hendy of Richmond Hill CBE (Labour) — ministerial response on Clause 95, rolling stock, GBR enhancements and disused railway land

03:41:54

Question of The Rt Hon. the Lord Grayling on biodiversity protections in the historic rail estate

03:59:42

The Rt Hon. the Lord Young of Cookham CH (Conservative) — winding‑up remarks on his amendment

04:00:23

Adjournment of the Grand Committee

04:01:03

The Rt Hon. the Lord Young of Cookham CH (Conservative) — concluding remarks on Amendment 305ZA and ONS implications

04:22:33

Withdrawal of Amendment 305ZA and formal stand-part decisions on clauses 87 to 95 and Schedule 3

04:26:27

After clause 95

04:29:43

Amendment 326 and related amendments 346 and 347 of The Lord Moylan — publication of key GBR framework documents before commencement — withdrawn

04:29:43

Formal disposal of remaining amendments after clause 95

04:36:43

Live capture

Versions of this video

Replay Final version · 26 October 2026
Live capture Streamed live on 26 October 2026

Current

Transcripts may differ slightly from one version to another.

Lords Grand Committee

26 October 2026

Chamber Mon, 26 Oct 2026 Actual start 15:30 House of Lords

15:22 - 15:25

Speaker 1

Yes, absolutely.

15:25 - 15:49

Speaker 3

As you know, if there is a division in the House, we must adjourn the moment the division bells sound and resume after 10 minutes. Grand Committee on the Railways Bill. It's amendment 266, resumed debate on that.

15:49 - 16:46

Speaker 2

My Lords, since we were interrupted on account of continuing and starting a new group quite unnecessarily given the pressure of business in the phases of today, I thought it would be helpful if I gave some summary of what the debate was when we last met last Wednesday.

So, my noble friend Lord Lansley raised important questions of how the existing 2016 access regime will apply to infrastructure managers outside Great British Railways. And he left the minister with a specific question. He said, "With this amendment, all I'm looking for is the minister to say there is no further intention than to apply the existing 2016 approach to infrastructure managers other than GBR."

The rest of the transcript is for Pro customers

Unlock the full transcript, chat, and every analysis feature with Polyfact Pro.

House of Lords

Watch the full session, transcribed live

Unlock word-for-word transcripts, AI summaries and chat on every parliamentary session.

Live transcript, every speaker identified
AI summaries and chat on every session
Alerts the moment your keywords are said

Already have an account? Log in

Ask anything about this video — I analyse its transcript to answer.

House of Lords

Watch the full session, transcribed live

Unlock word-for-word transcripts, AI summaries and chat on every parliamentary session.

Live transcript, every speaker identified
AI summaries and chat on every session
Alerts the moment your keywords are said

Already have an account? Log in

Keyboard shortcuts

Playback

Play / pause: Space
Back / forward 15 s: ←→
Back / forward 10 s: JL
Full screen: F

Chapters and transcript

Previous / next chapter: PN
Search the transcript: /
Turn follow on / off: S
Copy the current sentence as a quote: C
Show this help: ?

Single-key shortcuts J, L, N, P, C, S, / and ?. Turn them off if you use voice control or assistive tech that types letters.

Inactive while a text field, a button or the chat has focus.