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House of Representatives Chamber (part 2 of 2)

14 September 2026

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The House finalises procedural steps to move into the second reading of the Private Health Insurance Amendment Bill and members outline the initial government case for rebate modernisation alongside emerging Opposition concerns about impacts on older Australians and public hospitals.

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Second reading commences — procedure and initial positions

00:38

Second reading begins — procedural stage and bill context

00:38

Division and move to second reading

00:38

Pre-division chamber remarks

00:38

Division on motion and move to second reading

02:43

Member for Melbourne — case for rebate reform

07:58

Member for Melbourne: purpose of rebate reform

07:58

Detailed aged care investments and system pressures

11:21

Broader health system investments: Medicare, clinics, hospitals

14:04

Opposition criticism and impact on private insurance

16:57

Government member: rebate fairness and aged care focus

18:31

Member for Mayo — opposition to rebate changes

21:54

Member for Mayo: framing bill as attack on older Australians

21:54

Member for Mayo: stakeholder warnings and system pressures

25:12

Member for Mayo: data on private hospitals and seniors’ opposition

28:31

Member for Mayo: constituent testimonies and plea to withdraw bill

32:23

Government case for rebate modernisation vs Opposition concerns

35:32

Government member: rationale for amending private health rebate

35:32

Government member: support for amendment bill

35:32

Rebate design change — from age to income

39:01

Intergenerational fairness and limited membership impact

42:29

Link to broader Medicare and universal access agenda

44:23

Government defence and Opposition attack on rebate

46:27

Older Australians, sustainability and constituency example

46:27

Opposition MP: budget choices on veterans and seniors

50:02

Opposition MP: misinformation claims, rebate fairness and pensioners

53:57

Cost shifting to states and state premiers’ opposition

58:32

Cochlear implants, cost‑of‑living pressures and political attack

01:03:02

Core rebate reform debate — government rationale vs Opposition critique

01:05:05

Second reading debate — government defence vs opposition critique of rebate reform

01:05:05

Government member: defence of age‑neutral rebate and health reforms

01:05:05

Member for Gordon: rationale for age‑neutral rebate

01:05:05

Government member: savings redirected to aged care

01:06:53

Government member: link to Medicare and hospital funding

01:11:02

Government member: GP shortages and Thornhill Park reclassification

01:12:33

Government member: private health transparency and product regulation

01:14:28

Government member: equity principle and commendation of bill

01:16:26

Opposition MP for Hinkler — critique of rebate cut and impacts on seniors

01:17:24

Transition to opposition speaker for Hinkler

01:17:24

Opposition MP for Hinkler: impact on seniors and regional hospitals

01:17:31

Opposition MP for Hinkler: premium rises, downgrades and coverage risks

01:21:15

Hinkler survey and constituent testimonies against rebate cut

01:23:30

Opposition MP: rebate cut as cost shift and threat to aged care

01:26:21

PBO modelling on pensioner impact and closing attack

01:30:21

Government rationale for age‑neutral rebate and health funding

01:31:09

Government MP for Griffith — private health rebate reform and health system funding

01:31:09

Government member for Griffith: age‑neutral rebate and intergenerational fairness

01:31:09

Government MP for Griffith: aged care investment from rebate savings

01:36:08

Griffith MP: Medicare access, bulk billing and cheaper medicines

01:39:38

Medicare Urgent Care Clinics and hospital funding link to aged care

01:40:59

Private health transparency reforms and defence of bill

01:43:48

Independent and government MPs — age-based rebate reform and aged care funding

01:45:34

Independent MP for Indi: pensioner and regional impact concerns

01:45:34

Government member for Hughes: Royal Commission failures and new aged care package

01:50:28

Government member: Support at Home expansion and rebate distortion

01:53:39

Government member: age‑neutral rebate to fund aged care and Medicare

01:56:47

Government member: modelling, limited premium impact and commendation

02:00:23

Private health insurance rebate changes — parliamentary debate

02:02:15

House debate — Opposition to age-based rebate bill

02:02:15

Nicholls MP: regional impacts of age‑based rebate cuts

02:02:15

Nicholls MP: regional cost shift and defence of age‑based rebate

02:02:15

Nicholls MP: rebate mechanics, household impact and regional capacity

02:04:29

Nicholls MP: regional private hospital modelling and aged care risks

02:07:56

Nicholls MP: flow‑on effects for younger families and call to abandon bill

02:12:31

Independent MP for Clark — opposition to private health rebate bill

02:15:30

Independent MP for Clark: retirees’ incomes and retrospective impact

02:15:30

Clark MP: pension dependence, sacrifices and pressure on public system

02:19:18

Clark MP: asset-rich myth and political motive

02:22:51

Clark MP: budget savings, veterans’ cap and call to reverse bill

02:28:31

Mackellar MP: critique of age-based rebate removal

02:30:33

Mackellar MP: bill overview, electorate impact and aged care trade-off

02:30:33

Mackellar MP: participation assumptions, premium modelling and system risks

02:34:54

Pensioner private health rebate cut — core objections and modelling

02:38:33

Independent MP Scamps: pensioner impacts and hospital pressure

02:38:33

Independent MP Scamps: retirees’ case studies and rebate impact

02:38:33

Independent MP Scamps: hospital modelling and call for pensioner exemption

02:43:06

Opposition MP Small — attack on age‑based rebate cut

02:45:54

Opposition MP Small: rebate cut framed as unfair tax on seniors

02:45:54

Small: household cost impacts, generational fairness claim and state opposition

02:50:39

Opposition MP Small: constituent anger and tax grab claim

02:53:57

Private health rebate cuts and hospital pressures

03:00:45

Bowman MP Pike — pensioner rebate cuts and hospital impact

03:00:45

Bowman MP: local impact on seniors and hospitals

03:00:45

Bowman MP: pensioner emails and behavioural response

03:05:35

Bowman MP: actuarial modelling and pensioner impact

03:08:42

Bowman MP: political framing and Coalition opposition

03:14:26

Capricornia MP Landry — regional retirees and health system pressures

03:15:52

Capricornia MP: regional retirees’ costs and coverage risk

03:15:52

Capricornia MP: hospital system pressures and call for full modelling

03:22:02

Private health rebate cut and aged care funding

03:27:00

Kooyong MP Ryan: opposition to rebate cut and modelling gaps

03:27:00

Kooyong MP: call for net savings data and pensioner exemption amendment

03:38:59

Adjournment statements — infrastructure, elections, tobacco policy

03:40:04

Adjournment statements — local infrastructure, elections and tobacco policy

03:40:04

Adjournment — regional infrastructure and community funding

03:40:04

Adjournment moved and Monash MP: regional events and road funding

03:40:04

Chisholm MP: volunteer grants and local community organisations

03:54:40

Adjournment — election conduct and tobacco regulation

03:45:17

Bennelong MP: Plymouth Brethren, election conduct and JSCEM inquiry

03:45:17

Bowman MP: illicit tobacco crime and Coalition excise policy

03:49:43

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House of Representatives Chamber (part 2 of 2)

14 September 2026

House of Representatives Mon, 14 Sept 2026 Australian Parliament

00:38 - 00:55

Speaker 1

I don't find it hard like this bill and who's preselected in Bendigo West. I don't think so. I'm ready.

02:43 - 02:51

Speaker 2

Lock the doors. The question is the motion be agreed to. The ayes will pass to the right of the chair and the noes to the left. I appoint the honorable members for Capricornia and Monash as tellers for the ayes and the honorable members for Werriwa and Bean as tellers for the noes.

07:15 - 07:58

Speaker 5

Order, the result of the division is Ayes 43, Noes 87. The matter was resolved in the negative. And I call the Clerk to return. The question is that the bill be now read a second time. And if I can just invite members to take their seats quickly and quietly, we shall go to the next speaker.

The question is the bill be read a second time. Give the call to the... order, members can take their seats quickly and quietly. Give the call to the honorable member for Melbourne.

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